From g3ltf at btinternet.com  Sun Feb  1 09:44:42 2009
From: g3ltf at btinternet.com (peter blair)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 08:44:42 -0000
Subject: [Moon] New NA stations on 432 EME
Message-ID: <8A87417082F841EB9D0D3CE16BC66046@D7BX6Z0J>

 I was very pleased to work VE2ZAZ and KA7V yesterday on 432 EME, both are running 4 yagis and were good copy, KA7V louder. Both have recently  posted on the reflectors looking for skeds so I hope they will get some more takers. Faraday required that I transmitted 90 degrees  from where I was receiving the best signal. 
I hope to be on for the 432 activity period later, but the wind is pretty stong here at the moment.
 73 Peter G3LTF 
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From df3kv at t-online.de  Sun Feb  1 20:24:22 2009
From: df3kv at t-online.de (Peter Voelpel)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:24:22 +0100
Subject: [Moon] [Moon-net] Source of 8877's
In-Reply-To: <8CB52B6A0CF6556-75C-22FF@WEBMAIL-MZ10.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CB52AA00C89DE5-75C-1F89@WEBMAIL-MZ10.sysops.aol.com><4985EF85.30201@maltanet.net>
	<8CB52B6A0CF6556-75C-22FF@WEBMAIL-MZ10.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <9E1A96C566964B2887C7218B944277E5@ap200>

They are generally taken from military depots and were $10-20 20 years ago.
They will need much more drive then the 8877 and you need to fabricate a
socket or srew it in somehow.
But still there is no other way to get power cheap.

73
Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net
[mailto:moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net] On Behalf Of
james1787 at aol.com
Sent: Sonntag, 1. Februar 2009 20:02
To: phillipa at maltanet.net; moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net
Subject: Re: [Moon-net] Source of 8877's


 Hi everyone, thanks for the replies. 

It sounds like in terms of the 8877, Eimac is the way to go. My last amp had
eimac finals and I never had any complaints. The only eimac I had go dead on
me was from operator error (3-500z's don't take 3 foot drops to the floor
very well). 

For the price, this Russian GS35B tube does sound interesting. My question
is.. why so cheap? Why is a 8877 4 to 5 times more expensive? 

73,
James KB2FCV




 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Aquilina <phillipa at maltanet.net>
To: james1787 at aol.com
Sent: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: [Moon-net] Source of 8877's









Hi James ,?
?

Why not us a Russian  GS35B , you can fit it in The W6PO design for the
8877 and have a very rugged?

Amp, they sell for around $100 to $130 new.?

I have one on 2m and can get 2.5Kw from it. Much more rugged than the
8877 and Grid current can go up to?

600mA not fragile like 8877.?
?

73's Philip 9H1PA?
?

james1787 at aol.com wrote:?

> I am going to start building a 2m amp running an 8877 final. Where are
good places to get them? I also see a few different manufacturers out
there... Eimac, Pro-Tek and one or two others. Are there brands I should
stay away from? 
>?

> 73,?

>?

> James KB2FCV?

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From jh1krc at syd.odn.ne.jp  Mon Feb  2 20:11:28 2009
From: jh1krc at syd.odn.ne.jp (M. Watanabe)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 4:11:28 +0900
Subject: [Moon] IC-970 PLL unlock
Message-ID: <20090202191128102.XYM.8272.wememta102.odn.ne.jp@mta102.odn.ne.jp>

Hello Walter and all
cc:JA-EME ML

   I asked JA moon-bouncers about the PLL unlock problem of 
IC-970.  Some replied me.  I'm pleased to know that already 
Walter has solved the problem.  

   Shige JA3SGR writes: when you see the front panel there is 
the PLL circuit board of 430MHz VCO on the right side.  
Open a small metal box down left, there are a strip line and 
a trimmer capacitor.  Turn this trimmer capacitor, then the PLL 
would lock the frequency and display 430.  Otherwise there is 
another trimmer cap, down right, for lower frequency. Turn to 
lock the PLL.  This unlock problem could be caused by aging and 
thermal change.  
   1.2G VCO might be in a square metal box.  There is a dielectric 
resonator inside.  Stray capacitance, and/or a volume of solder 
around the dielectric resonator may change the frequency.  
If you see 1290 on the frequency display, the PLL may have locked.  

   Hiroshi JS3SIM writes: use a wooden chop stick and try to find 
trifle parts such as trimmer capacitor and ferrite core of inductor 
in the 430 VCO.  Unstable part could be the trimmer cap.  

  Seisho JA6DZI suggests to use soldering heater and/or freezing 
spray to detect the parts in trouble. 

   Is it C121 that matters?  Mac JH3ERQ recommends to read 
about "blue trimmer capacitor" sysndrome:

  http://128.54.16.15/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/200012/msg01020.html 

   Kony JM1GSH suggests these web-sites may help you for 
some time.
 
  http://www.ham.dmz.ro/ 
  http://www.mods.dk/ 

   I have and use two IC-970D for years.   Fortunately I haven't 
experienced the PLL unlock problem, but frequency inaccuacy only.  This may be fixed by tuning the standard OSC....
 
   So, GL to everyone who has the same problem!!  


Mike JH1KRC 





From joe at Princeton.EDU  Mon Feb  2 23:16:44 2009
From: joe at Princeton.EDU (Joe Taylor)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:16:44 -0500
Subject: [Moon] Dubus EME Activity Events
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1233572401.8776.moon@moonbounce.info>
References: <mailman.1.1233572401.8776.moon@moonbounce.info>
Message-ID: <498770CC.10201@princeton.edu>

Maybe I don't understand the scoring of the Dubus 2m EME Activity Events.

On the "Results" page, http://www.sm2cew.com/aw_results.html , scores 
are listed for up to eight 2008 events, followed by a column labeled 
"Best 6".

In most cases the results for the last column seem to follow logically. 
But two stations (OK1MS and IK3MAC) seem to have been awarded a "x2" 
multiplier.

Even more strangely, SV3AAF seems to be given a multiplier of about 
1.6795, while that for JH0WJF is 0.9865.

What does one need to do, to qualify for these extra multipliers (and to 
avoid the bad kind, < 1.0) ??

     -- 73, Joe, K1JT



From joe at Princeton.EDU  Mon Feb  2 23:22:27 2009
From: joe at Princeton.EDU (Joe Taylor)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:22:27 -0500
Subject: [Moon] Dubus EME Activity Events
In-Reply-To: <498770CC.10201@princeton.edu>
References: <mailman.1.1233572401.8776.moon@moonbounce.info>
	<498770CC.10201@princeton.edu>
Message-ID: <49877223.8080908@princeton.edu>

Re JH0WJF:

> Even more strangely, SV3AAF seems to be given a multiplier of about 
> 1.6795, while that for JH0WJF is 0.9865.

My mistake, I do understand the posted score for JH0WJF.

	-- Joe, K1JT


From sm2cew at telia.com  Tue Feb  3 20:54:28 2009
From: sm2cew at telia.com (Peter Sundberg)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:54:28 +0000
Subject: [Moon] Dubus EME Activity Events
In-Reply-To: <498770CC.10201@princeton.edu>
References: <mailman.1.1233572401.8776.moon@moonbounce.info>
	<mailman.1.1233572401.8776.moon@moonbounce.info>
Message-ID: <20090203195142.7C97D2EE75@mail.allt1.se>

= Flash Bulletin!

The Contests Committee Board of Directors (CCBD) have been engaged today in
a 6 hour long meeting, due to the scoreboard errors, so thankfully brought
to their attention by Mr JT in America.

Results are now corrected, to the best precision possible on a Tuesday in
February.

The extra multipliers handed out for OK1MS, SV3AAF and IK3MAC were intended
as a sponsor bonus, but the CCBD desired to revoke them, without a
possibility to file complaints to the referee.

End of Bulletin =

On behalf of the CCBD,

Mr P Sundberg
SM2CEW



At 22:16 2009-02-02 , Joe Taylor wrote:
>Maybe I don't understand the scoring of the Dubus 2m EME Activity Events.
>
>On the "Results" page, http://www.sm2cew.com/aw_results.html , scores 
>are listed for up to eight 2008 events, followed by a column labeled 
>"Best 6".
>
>In most cases the results for the last column seem to follow logically. 
>But two stations (OK1MS and IK3MAC) seem to have been awarded a "x2" 
>multiplier.
>
>Even more strangely, SV3AAF seems to be given a multiplier of about 
>1.6795, while that for JH0WJF is 0.9865.
>
>What does one need to do, to qualify for these extra multipliers (and to 
>avoid the bad kind, < 1.0) ??
>
>     -- 73, Joe, K1JT
>
>
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From rbiggar at ihug.co.nz  Wed Feb  4 02:56:16 2009
From: rbiggar at ihug.co.nz (Ross)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:56:16 +1300
Subject: [Moon] Directional coupler for 1296
Message-ID: <C05B8DC38681445F9EE333581BC64899@RossBeast>

I am looking for a directional coupler, that I can leave in the tx line with my DB6NT amp,
The coupler will then feed into my HP438A power meter.

The idea is to give me an accurate way of measuring SWR/return loss.

Ideas please and advice where I could locate a suitable coupler.

Thanks
Ross
ZL1WN
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From rbiggar at ihug.co.nz  Thu Feb  5 06:18:34 2009
From: rbiggar at ihug.co.nz (Ross)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:18:34 +1300
Subject: [Moon] Re Skeds for 1296
Message-ID: <A18CDC80FBD042A6867C2229E03F8867@RossBeast>

Firstly my apologies to all who have emailed me and not had a reply.

I do not wish to set up skeds just yet until I am sure that all the gear is working properly,
and I can transmit and receive without a problem.

I will be checking in on the HB9Q logger, when the time is suitable for contacts. So Please monitor the logger.
I can work down to abot a 7 degree horizon to my west and about 2 degrees to my east, which should cover most of europe.

I have had no problems wih Europe on 144EME, although that array is a bit higher than my 1296 dish.

I am aware that a number of stations want ZL and I will do my best to help.  

I QSL direct by airmail  all new contacts.

On CW go slow!!! it is years since I passed the Cw exam for ZL, JT65C and SSB no problem.

Best wishes to all

Ross
ZL1WN

ps: Please have a bit of patience intially while I find all the "bugs" in my system
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From vihraw1 at gmail.com  Thu Feb  5 09:00:44 2009
From: vihraw1 at gmail.com (Barry Wright)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 01:00:44 -0700
Subject: [Moon] 432 MHz EME skeds
Message-ID: <000001c98767$d9d92e00$8d8b8a00$@com>


I'm looking for 432 MHz CW EME skeds for this weekend, 6 Feb - 8 Feb UTC.  I
will have good moon from 0000-0500 UTC over the weekend.  Anyone that is
interested can contact me by email: ka7v at arrl.net.

My 432 MHz station is described on this URL: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/barry10a/2752956141/in/set-72157606664072445/


Barry - KA7V
Oregon - DN14ma







From ok1tehlist at seznam.cz  Fri Feb  6 10:31:31 2009
From: ok1tehlist at seznam.cz (=?us-ascii?Q?OK1TEH=20Petrzilka?=)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:31:31 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Moon] Contact at W4LTU & MS on 23cm
Message-ID: <18236.26575-21448-381038702-1233912691@seznam.cz>

Hi all
I'm looking for email contact at Walter, W4LTU.
If you know it or you're his neighbour pse tell me.

BTW do you have any idea if anybody tried MS on 23cm?

73 Matej, OK1TEH

PS see you during a weekend on 70/23cm EME


From jh1krc at syd.odn.ne.jp  Fri Feb  6 15:39:39 2009
From: jh1krc at syd.odn.ne.jp (M. Watanabe)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 23:39:39 +0900
Subject: [Moon] 8J1AXA on Feb. 07
Message-ID: <20090206143939707.BNVR.8272.wememta102.odn.ne.jp@mta102.odn.ne.jp>

Operating Information of 8J1AXA on February 7.
{Moon-bounce Class Room with students} 

The JARL Special Station 8J1AXA at JAXA Katsuura Space Communication Center, Chiba Pref., will be active on 144MHz/432MHz, Saturday, February 7, 2008. Moon above 5 deg. after 05:56UTC & before 19:50UTC of Feb.7. (Our antenna elevation does not come down below 5 deg. )

For EME contacts:

Analog mode:
QRG: 144.050 +-QRM (CW/SSB)
Note: We will join Dubus 2M activity event from 15:00UTC to 18:00UTC

QRG: 432.015 +-QRM(CW/SSB)

Digital mode:
We will inform 8J1AXA's logger for QRG and QSX. 

We aim to make as many QSOs as possible concentrated in CW, and possibly JT65B as the activity levels suggests.  
And we are pleased to try any possible SSB contacts on requests. We had very good SSB echos during December operation on 432MHz. So why not try it!!

You may refer to our up date QRV information in our web-site logger and you are able to contact us for operating information or any suggestion for sked info with us.  
You are kindly requested not to exchange any operating information via internet or any other communication method except radio, during each QSO with us.

http://www.8j1axa.jp/ 


**********

Above is a QTC from 8J1AXA.   I won't join this time, but 8 high-
school students will join the team.   All student, 7 boys and a YL, 
have amateur licenses.   They like to work EME.  PSE try.  

TNX  & GL!!


Mike JH1KRC







From sm2cew at telia.com  Fri Feb  6 20:53:28 2009
From: sm2cew at telia.com (Peter Sundberg)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:53:28 +0000
Subject: [Moon] Dubus CW EME Activity
Message-ID: <20090206195032.3F3542F4FA@mail.allt1.se>

Time again for some CW EME fun on 144 MHz!

Check http://www.sm2cew.com/aw_dates.html for complete info.
Let's just hope the winter weather will be cooperative this weekend.

So, sharpen your ears, grease your elbow, point the array at the moon and GO!

:-)

73 de Peter SM2CEW
www.sm2cew.com






From oz1hne at post8.tele.dk  Fri Feb  6 22:27:53 2009
From: oz1hne at post8.tele.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F8rgen_Kristiansen?=)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:27:53 +0100
Subject: [Moon] QRV 144MHz DUBUS CW EME Event,
Message-ID: <006401c988a1$c7b7bf30$2a2df23e@privatqvfgt3vl>

Hi EME'ers,

I will be QRV this weekend in both parts of the 144MHz DUBUS CW EME event on saturday at 1500 - 1800 UTC.
and 2300 - 0200 UTC. ( 8. februar). Good luck to all and I hope to hear a lot of signals on the band.

If any stations would like to try a sked with me during the comming days, please drop me a mail.

Best 73, OZ1HNE Jorgen.
8 x 8 elm. crossyagi's H / V and 8877. 
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From valter_dls at yahoo.it  Fri Feb  6 23:04:24 2009
From: valter_dls at yahoo.it (valter dolso)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:04:24 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Moon] IK1FJI  qrv CW dubus event 2 meters
Message-ID: <723775.92985.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Hello

I will be qrv on Dubus event CW....i will call cq around .054

i hope? much of you will be on ?for this beautiful event, for CW lovers....

P.S.? at this time very bad weather here in Genova heavy rain and wind, so hope that the situation will go better, if not? :-((((

Looking forward for new entry?, and a lot of activity.

Best? 73???????????????????????????????????????? Valter IK1FJI


rig:? IC-275H+ GU78b??? ? 4x12 2.84 WL @? 19DBd?????? ?LNA 24 db? 0.3 NF? on tower


      Passa a Yahoo! Mail.

La webmail che ti offre GRATIS spazio illimitato, 
antispam e messenger integrato.
http://it.mail.yahoo.com/??????????????


From rbiggar at ihug.co.nz  Sat Feb  7 00:42:20 2009
From: rbiggar at ihug.co.nz (Ross)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 12:42:20 +1300
Subject: [Moon] Transverter Frequency drift.
Message-ID: <C1F7E8B11D2746E6801F9C23CAF32B25@RossBeast>

I have had a couple of 1296 contacts with my system and have had comments about severe frequency change during transmission.

Using WSJT, my received frequency starts at say 700hz and finishes at 800hz, doppler is only 20hz or so. On the next transmission 
at the next cycle, it starts again at 700hz.  
On receive I do not have a problem.

The equipment used is an Elecraft K3 feeding a DB6NT 1296 transverter, it is possible, but unlikely, that it is the K3, I feel the main
culprit is the DB6NT transverter, which is new by the way.
It is not the amp, as I have tried 2 amps and the result is the same, it is not the air from the amp, blowing on the transverter, as the fan exits are well
away from the transverter. Unlikely to be power supply problems as the K3 and the DB6NT are now fed from seperate 40amp supplies. The problem was
there when they were on the same supply, so swapping to seperate supplies has not fixed the problem.

Has anyone else had this problem with a DB6NT transverter, and if so how did they fix it.? 
Or any advice as to how I can fix the problem, ( and no the answer is not to use CW, the problem needs fixing regardless of the mode.)

Regards to all

Ross
ZL1WN
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From k7xq at elite.net  Sat Feb  7 01:33:35 2009
From: k7xq at elite.net (k7xq at elite.net)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:33:35 -0800
Subject: [Moon] Transverter Frequency drift.
In-Reply-To: <C1F7E8B11D2746E6801F9C23CAF32B25@RossBeast>
References: <C1F7E8B11D2746E6801F9C23CAF32B25@RossBeast>
Message-ID: <20090206163335.j5sisu6as4ckw4kc@secure.elite.net>



   Hi Ross,

   ?I had a similar problem on the DEM and SSB transverters. What I  
did was disconnect the internal XTAL LO source and inject a  
synthesized AD6IW synthesizer frequency phased locked to a 10 MHz OCXO  
that runs 24 hrs a day ( soon to be replaced with a Rb source ) . The  
microwave transverters that use a XTAL source tend to drift at the  
multilplied LO frequencies ( this includes the XTALs that have the  
internal heaters). On top of that, you really dont know the frequency  
you are on and maybe off as much as several kHz at the final  
frequency. With this new setup, there is no drift, the frequency is  
accurate and all you have left to worry about is the normal doppler  
shift.

   There are a handful of stations I normally work on 1296 CW that  
have the drift problem but as long as they dont drift too far, the  
QSO's are normally completed with "one hand on the dial".? I tried  
this methid on the JT mode but It doesnt work.

   I hope to work you this weekend as I will be QRV 144, 432 and 1296  
this weekend.

   Jeff K7XQ

   Quoting Ross <rbiggar at ihug.co.nz>:

> I have had a couple of 1296 contacts with my system and have had?  
> comments about severe frequency change during transmission.
>
> Using WSJT, my received frequency starts at say 700hz and finishes?  
> at 800hz, doppler is only 20hz or so. On the next transmission
> at the next cycle, it starts again at 700hz.
> On receive I do not have a problem.
>
> The equipment used is an Elecraft K3 feeding a DB6NT 1296?  
> transverter, it is possible, but unlikely, that it is the K3, I  
> feel? the main
> culprit is the DB6NT transverter, which is new by the way.
> It is not the amp, as I have tried 2 amps and the result is the?  
> same, it is not the air from the amp, blowing on the transverter,  
> as? the fan exits are well
> away from the transverter. Unlikely to be power supply problems as?  
> the K3 and the DB6NT are now fed from seperate 40amp supplies. The?  
> problem was
> there when they were on the same supply, so swapping to seperate?  
> supplies has not fixed the problem.
>
> Has anyone else had this problem with a DB6NT transverter, and if  
> so? how did they fix it.?
> Or any advice as to how I can fix the problem, ( and no the answer?  
> is not to use CW, the problem needs fixing regardless of the mode.)
>
> Regards to all
>
> Ross
> ZL1WN
>


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From rbiggar at ihug.co.nz  Sat Feb  7 01:43:08 2009
From: rbiggar at ihug.co.nz (Ross)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:43:08 +1300
Subject: [Moon] DB6NT transverter  further comments
Message-ID: <720AAF0015324BA08FE2E12BA040C713@RossBeast>

Thanks to all those who have replied to my email so quickly.
Rather than answer every one individually I will set out to answer the questions.

The transverter was purchased in May last year, (thinking it wouldn't take me as long to get on the air as it has).
It apparently is the G2 model, fitted with a 40degree temp controlled crystal.


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Thu Feb  5 06:19:12 2009
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 05:19:12 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1233967436.3650.moon@moonbounce.info>

have resorted to am external LO input such as
a 10mhz GPS controlled unit. I would completely agree that should cure =
the problem.

How do I do it on this unit?  (or should I put it in a frig? joke)

My other annoyance with this transverter is that I would have thought =
for an expensive piece of equipment, that an input frequency
would be converted exactly or vitually exactly. Such as 28.000mhz input =
should give 1296.000 output.
As it is with this unit, 28.065 input gives 1296.0642 output.  Kuhne's =
reaction when I commented on this yesterday in an email
to them was "offset the transmitting frequency".

Help please. everything else is working well now

Regards to all
Ross





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frequency</FONT></DIV>
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From rbiggar at ihug.co.nz  Sat Feb  7 03:21:36 2009
From: rbiggar at ihug.co.nz (Ross)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:21:36 +1300
Subject: [Moon] Transverter type correction
Message-ID: <0A20E9F90FC64763AAB8B2062CEB2832@RossBeast>

Info for all,
I must correct the type of DB6NT  transverter I have.
It is the TR 1296 H-28  not the G2 or G3

Any advice on feeding this one with a GPS controlled reference

Regards
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From ingolf.fhz at gmail.com  Sat Feb  7 10:44:14 2009
From: ingolf.fhz at gmail.com (Ingolf, SM6FHZ)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:44:14 +0100
Subject: [Moon] IARU recommendation; 1296 MHz Narrow Band centre of activity
Message-ID: <d453f9420902070144p3c424e20o81bebe8730017c84@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Moonbounce Community.

Some time ago Hakan, SM7WSJ, pointed out a minutes of meeting from IARU with
a recommendation for 1296 MHz narrow band centre of activity (CT08_C5_19 A
New Vision for 23 cm). See SNIPE below.

Has anyone in the Moonbounce Community had any thoughts about this
recommendation and its consequences?

Has anyone in the Moonbounce Community had any say in this IARU process?

Are there different regulations in different Regions and countries that may
cause problems?

Will we have problems with feed horn dimensions (closer to cut off)?

Any other equipment challenges (except switching X-tal frequency)?

I know that Peter, G3LTF, has made some investigations about the effects of
the proposed Galileo system on EME traffic.

Any other question that may arise from this recommendation?


*SNIPE*

Hello MoonBouncers.



http://download.pzk.org.pl/public/IARU/CT08_C5_Meeting_2_Minutes.pdf


73 Hakan  SM7WSJ

*END SNIPE*
73 / Ingolf, SM6FHZ
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From frankddr at tele2.it  Sat Feb  7 14:04:10 2009
From: frankddr at tele2.it (Francesco)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:04:10 +0100
Subject: [Moon] R:  Dubus CW EME Activity
In-Reply-To: <20090206195032.3F3542F4FA@mail.allt1.se>
Message-ID: <MDEPJGHECOMDHAOJMFMAGEDKCAAA.frankddr@tele2.it>

Hello all,
this time i could not be active on 1st leg of Dubus 2m activity eme event.
I wish to work lot of you on second window.
I'll mainly answer to other cqs and also call cq in somewhere.

Good luck to all.

Francesco,IK2DDR

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info
[mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info]Per conto di Peter Sundberg
Inviato: venerdi 6 febbraio 2009 20.53
A: moon at moonbounce.info
Oggetto: [Moon] Dubus CW EME Activity


Time again for some CW EME fun on 144 MHz!

Check http://www.sm2cew.com/aw_dates.html for complete info.
Let's just hope the winter weather will be cooperative this weekend.

So, sharpen your ears, grease your elbow, point the array at the moon and
GO!

:-)

73 de Peter SM2CEW
www.sm2cew.com





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From sv3aaf at yahoo.com  Sat Feb  7 14:38:07 2009
From: sv3aaf at yahoo.com (SV3AAF Petros)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 05:38:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Moon] IARU recommendation;
	1296 MHz Narrow Band centre of activity
In-Reply-To: <d453f9420902070144p3c424e20o81bebe8730017c84@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <590072.37909.qm@web59101.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Dear Lunatics,

I feel there is no room for capitulating on these particular issues, if we start doing that we will find ourselves without a band.

We already have the radars that many of us cancel them out, let galileo come and if there is such a big problem (doubtfully) we will see. It is wise to be prepared but packing up in advance is a mistake.
These birds are not phoenixes like XM and Sirius, these are supposed to be tweeties.

73, sv3aaf

--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Ingolf, SM6FHZ <ingolf.fhz at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Ingolf, SM6FHZ <ingolf.fhz at gmail.com>
Subject: [Moon] IARU recommendation; 1296 MHz Narrow Band centre of activity
To: moon at moonbounce.info, "Moon-net" <moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net>
Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 11:44 AM

Dear Moonbounce Community.
?
Some time ago Hakan, SM7WSJ, pointed out a minutes of meeting from IARU with a recommendation for 1296 MHz narrow band centre of activity (CT08_C5_19 A New Vision for 23 cm). See SNIPE below.
?
Has anyone in the Moonbounce Community had any thoughts about this recommendation and?its consequences? 
?
Has anyone in the Moonbounce Community had any say in this IARU process?
?
Are there different regulations in different Regions and countries that may cause problems?
?
Will we have problems with feed horn dimensions (closer to cut off)?
?
Any other equipment challenges (except switching X-tal frequency)?
?
I know that Peter, G3LTF, has made some investigations about the effects of the proposed Galileo system on EME traffic.
?
Any other question that may arise from this recommendation?
?
?
SNIPE
?
Hello MoonBouncers.



http://download.pzk.org.pl/public/IARU/CT08_C5_Meeting_2_Minutes.pdf



73 Hakan ?SM7WSJ

END SNIPE

73 / Ingolf, SM6FHZ
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From graham.d at orange.fr  Sat Feb  7 16:22:42 2009
From: graham.d at orange.fr (graham)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:22:42 +0100
Subject: [Moon] IARU recommendation;
 1296 MHz Narrow Band centre of  activity
In-Reply-To: <590072.37909.qm@web59101.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <d453f9420902070144p3c424e20o81bebe8730017c84@mail.gmail.com>
	<590072.37909.qm@web59101.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20090207160531.01c82c18@pop.orange.fr>

At 14:38 07/02/2009, SV3AAF Petros wrote:
>Dear Lunatics,
>
>I feel there is no room for capitulating on these particular issues, if we 
>start doing that we will find ourselves without a band.

The 'plan' as passed can in no way be interpreted as a capitulation.

It is what is says " ...an alternative or reserve narrowband centre of 
activity..."

As ' we ' are not owners, or even primary exclusive users, of the current 
centre of activity , it makes sense to have a plan in hand of ' organised 
retreat ' , rather than waiting for ( the inevitable ??) changes being 
imposed upon us and then scrambling in disarray.

I do not see that such a proposal weakens any position we , or our 
societies,  hold , as we have no position to hold. We will have to , in the 
final analysis, do as we are told.

In addition , under such circumstances , if other band users with interests 
in data, satellite, TV, FM, repeaters, etc etc had already carved up the 
available space between themselves then we ( as part of the narrowband 
interest group) might find ourselves then having a scrambling retreat in 
disarray and a 'civil war' at the same time.........

Now we know where we might go. That is all it says/does.

73 Graham F5VHX / G8MBI 




From g3ltf at btinternet.com  Sat Feb  7 17:55:54 2009
From: g3ltf at btinternet.com (peter blair)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:55:54 -0000
Subject: [Moon] Is 8J1AXA QRV?
Message-ID: <33F4897097A44F6F86B4E38251DECFE6@D7BX6Z0J>

 Ive been looking for 8J1AXA on 432 but heard nil so far, has anyone worked them?
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From sm7wsj at telia.com  Sat Feb  7 19:35:27 2009
From: sm7wsj at telia.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5kan_H?=)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:35:27 +0100
Subject: [Moon] Dubus 144mhz CW
Message-ID: <70A0AF8036F245CAA5A0C7D54CE3540F@ibma4f41tydsoc>

Hello Moonbouncers,

Was on last  one and a half hour for SWL.   (single yagi )


Looked like it was very good activity. it was many traces on the screen i 
could not dig out of the noise but still very fun to hunt in real random 
style with small antenna.

SM7GVF  Good Echo Kjell   (have spectran picture)
OZ1HNE   three different signals,,  tropo, moon, and some other reflection.
OK1MS  strong
IK1FJI  very strong
YO2AMU   strong
SP7DCS  strong

Some More

I was looking for 8J1AXA
Sounded like the keying as from G3ZIG in one transmission i found when 
tuning the band, (guess i will know)
Thought i heard F0CXO in the end of activity slot but?

This was the end of singleyagi operation.  Next time with a second antenna 
mounted side by side and full power.

73 Hakan  SM7WSJ 



From g3ltf at btinternet.com  Sat Feb  7 19:48:08 2009
From: g3ltf at btinternet.com (peter blair)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:48:08 -0000
Subject: [Moon] 8J1AXA on 432  + G3LTF 1296 QRV
Message-ID: <443B1C4490724A4C943D3036BF8315E2@D7BX6Z0J>

 Thanks to all for the info, I did work them OK on 432.232 abt . nothing like as strong as I expected though.
 I will be on 1296 after about 2230.
73 to all Peter G3LTF 
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From dl5mae at yahoo.de  Sat Feb  7 21:06:47 2009
From: dl5mae at yahoo.de (Wolfgang Schlaffer)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 20:06:47 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Moon] DL5MAEFEB.log
Message-ID: <211568.41126.qm@web23708.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Hi ALL, 

after almost 1 year of absence of EME I made a few contacts in the
DUBUS activity weekend. Only Europeans worked, where was JAPAN and 
Oceania? 
Found condx good. Wkd 10 stations (others heard, i.e. I3EVK, F0CXO, PA0JMV and more). 

Got the feeling some contacts were arranged via CHATROOM during the event. 
Maybe I am wrong, I just made some "strange observations" when turning my 
VFO over the band. I hope DUBUS TESTs will remain pure random in the future. 

My log: 

7th OF February , times in UTC ,? all reports sent / received were "O"

1506 utc???? SP7DCS
1510????????? G3ZIG
1515????????? OZ1HNE
1549????????? RU1AA?????? 
1608????????? YO2AMU
1617????????? OK1MS
1637????????? IK1FJI
1647????????? SM7GVF
1705????????? DK3BU
1744????????? DK3EE

Score: 10 QSOs x 9 Multis? =?? 90 points 
ANT : 18 dbd

vy 73 de DL5MAE Wolfgang

(not QRV in 2nd part tonight)




      
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From k7xq at elite.net  Sat Feb  7 22:53:29 2009
From: k7xq at elite.net (K7XQ)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:53:29 -0800
Subject: [Moon] K7XQ QRV 432    0030 UTC  - 1300 UTC Feb 8th
Message-ID: <004201c9896e$86ba3d50$6801a8c0@k7xq>

Hello All,
I will be QRV today from 0030 UTC - 1300 UTC Feb 8th on 432. I can 
only operate in the vertical polarity as I am having problem with 
the horizontal side due to possible interaction of the elements
Between the two polarities. Getting great echoes now.

I was QRV last night with little activity found on 432 after 
0600 UTC. I did not find the Japanese super station 8J1AXA 
at all on 144 or 432 last night.


K7XQ Jeff
Atwater,CA.
Grid: CM97qi

144 MHz: 4 X M2 2MPX20 XPOL 20 dBd 1.5 kw single GS35b
432 MHz: 8 X M2 9 W.L. XPOL 27 dBd ,single GS-35b
1296 MHz: 3 meter dish 27 dBd 350 watts single water cooled GS-15
2304 MHz: 3 meter dish 32 dBd 180 watts SS Spectrain Amplifier
10368 MHz: 3 meter dish 45 dBd 20 watts Varian TWTA Amplifier

K7XQ Webpage:  http://www.elite.net/~k7xq/k7xq.html



From k6pf at sbcglobal.net  Sun Feb  8 00:40:16 2009
From: k6pf at sbcglobal.net (Bob Kocisko)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:40:16 -0800
Subject: [Moon] VHF: QRV for DUBUS Event
Message-ID: <007001c9897d$6eb62d40$6401a8c0@Office>

Should be getting moonrise any minute now so planning on being QRV on 2m cw 
EME fm 0000z to 0200z on 8 Feb.  Will work random, unassisted.

73,
Bob, K6PF 



From k6pf at sbcglobal.net  Sun Feb  8 06:17:52 2009
From: k6pf at sbcglobal.net (Bob Kocisko)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:17:52 -0800
Subject: [Moon] DUBUS Event Results
Message-ID: <004501c989ac$9803b5d0$6401a8c0@Office>

Hello 2m EME Friends:

I was QRV for 2 hours on 8 Feb & had VY poor condx.  Although the event 
started at 2300z on 7 Feb, I didn't hv moonrise until abt 2345z.  Had vy 
noisy condx, even up to 20 deg EL. Horiz polarity was noisy & vertical pol 
was extremely bad & not usuable.  Usually, EU comes in vertical fm moonrise 
until 15-20 deg EL.  On top of noise, had lots of deep QSB.  I apologize for 
sending so many QRZs.  All QSOs were horiz pol on tx & rx. 5 out of 6 QSOs 
were on my CQ.

During these 2 hrs, worked 6 stations for 6 multipliers.  Here's the 
results:

0021z - 0027z   DK3EE        O/R (sent) / RO (rcv'd)
0051z - 0103z   YO2AMU    O/R    RO
0107z - 0114z   SP7DCS       O/R    RO
0116z - 0127z   OK1MS        RO    O/R
0132z - 0145z   IK2DDR       RO    O/R
0149z - 0158z   F0CXO         RO    O/R

Total score:  6 QSOs x 6 multiplier

73,
Bob, K6PF

4 x M^2 2MXP20's (19dBd, x-pol)
FT-1000MP, LT-2S xvtr
8877 HPA



From la9nea at online.no  Sun Feb  8 08:00:35 2009
From: la9nea at online.no (Viggo Magnus LA9NEA)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 08:00:35 +0100
Subject: [Moon] 1296 SSB test
Message-ID: <0DD5D5E20409492F82DA6AB77A70B5A0@LA9NEA>

Hello!

Was qrv in the SSB contest for a short while., the wx condx saturday was terrible with heavy snow fall, so I went home early from my eme site, anyway worked this fine 1296 eme stations:

UT5JCW 559/559, OK3RM 549/559, SP6JLW 55/55 SSB, JA6CZD 559/559,SV3AAF 54/53 SSB, LX1DB 57/57 SSB, OZ4MM 55/54 SSB, and OH2LG 55/44 SSB.


Next planned activity 28 february, and 1 march

73 Viggo  LA9NEA




LA9NEA 23 cm EME set up:
Icom 756 pro II
TR1296H trv Kuhne
6 x 7289 ring PA ,500 watt,
MKU 13200B(spare PA) 250 watt SSPA,
5.3 meter dish,
VE4MA Feed
1.stage preamp.Cavity NE32484 0.28 dB
2.stage Kuhne  MGF 4953A 0.4 dB
JO59dx
Autotracking by W2DRZ,
VK3UM tracking at screen.
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From k7xq at elite.net  Sun Feb  8 09:17:36 2009
From: k7xq at elite.net (K7XQ)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:17:36 -0800
Subject: [Moon] K7XQ QRV 432 CW EME 0130 - 0800 UTC Feb 9th
Message-ID: <000501c989c5$b6da4410$6601a8c0@K7XQH>

Hello All,
I will be QRV 432 CW EME 0130 UTC - 0800 UTC Feb 9th.

Today worked NC1I 559 and new initials K1RQG 549 and KL6M 549 all with
FB signals! 
Presently using 8 X 24 ele vertically polarized. Still need to work on
the 
horizontal polarization.

I will also call CQ 432.015 +/- 1 kHz if birdies. Skeds are also
welcome.

73,
K7XQ Jeff



From g3ltf at btinternet.com  Sun Feb  8 11:54:21 2009
From: g3ltf at btinternet.com (peter blair)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:54:21 -0000
Subject: [Moon] G3LTF QRV 23/70cm today
Message-ID: <9BE7AB07A44944D3BEA36D13B37E91D7@D7BX6Z0J>

 I can be QRV on 23 or 70cm today if anyone wants a test or a QSO . I can't do 13cm as I'm not carrying the PSU  and  PA up to the dish in the snow! My apologies for an error in posting the 8J1AXA frequency yesterday. When I worked them they were on 432.023 not 432.23. Sorry. I dont think it mislead too much as they were nearly at the end of their window when I did that.
  I will start today at moon rise here (~16.30 UTC )  on abt 1296.010.
 73 Peter  G3LTF 
 6m dish ,400W 1296 1KW 432 
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From g3zig at freenet.co.uk  Sun Feb  8 12:25:15 2009
From: g3zig at freenet.co.uk (Roy Reed)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:25:15 +0000
Subject: [Moon] Dubus activity
References: <md5:AAF4DB059A141E9CA01C9B66E1C29B82>
	<498EBF3E.EEF0C441@freenet.co.uk>
Message-ID: <498EC11B.F41BD5AC@freenet.co.uk>



:
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi all
> >          It was great to be back on EME again.I was only able to operate
> > for about 2 hours as we were going out for the evening and did not get
> > back untill late ,but never the less managed to have 10 very enjoyable
> > qso,s ..Just great to be
> > back.
> >    Here is my list of stations worked.
> > TIME
> > 15:10   DL5MAE
> > 15:14   SM7GVF
> > 15:20   YO2AMU
> > 15:35   UA3PTW
> > 15:47   I3EVK
> > 15:56   OK1MS
> > 16:04   SP7DCS
> > 16:11   OZ1HNE
> > 16:30   RU1AA
> > 16:45   SM2CEW
> >
>.
> > The equipment is still the sam, My old vintage Collins S line to
> > homebrew 4CX1500B amp to 8 X 15 el DJ9BV,s with 1303 preamp into G4DDK
> > converter.
> >     
> >              73 Roy G3ZIG.
> >


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From joe at Princeton.EDU  Sun Feb  8 14:49:51 2009
From: joe at Princeton.EDU (Joe Taylor)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 08:49:51 -0500
Subject: [Moon] Dubus 2m CW Event
Message-ID: <498EE2FF.2010901@princeton.edu>

I was able to get on for the second window.  Many thanks to DK3EE F0CXO 
IK1FJI IK2DDR OK1MS OZ1HNE SM7GVF SP7DCS YO2AMU for the enjoyable QSOs., 
all with excellent signals.

	-- 73, Joe, K1JT


From frankddr at tele2.it  Sun Feb  8 16:39:16 2009
From: frankddr at tele2.it (Francesco)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:39:16 +0100
Subject: [Moon] IK2DDR Dubus 2 m eme activity event report
In-Reply-To: <498EC11B.F41BD5AC@freenet.co.uk>
Message-ID: <MDEPJGHECOMDHAOJMFMACEEACAAA.frankddr@tele2.it>

Hello Peter and all,
here my Dubus 2m eme activity event report.
Unfortunately i was active only on second window, due football commitments.
I found an extremely high activity and very good conditions, with lot of
strong signals.
My qso/rate was really extremely good on 1st hour (23:00-24:00), where i
worked 8 stations.
I'm really sorry to have lost some other good station, maybe active only on
1st window, but at
least i'm really satysfied about my score. Each qso was really pure fun.
I heard for the second month WB2RVX that i wish to work soon, maybe untill
next event.
As told by Wolfgang,DL5MAE, i wish that the event could maintain the "Only
Random status", maybe someone
of us as forgot it.
Thanks to all the worked stations and see you on next event.

73' Francesco,IK2DDR

Look my log as follow:

IK2DDR CAT.C LOG:

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Date        time    callsign     TX       RX       MULTIP      points

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
07/02/08    23:09   DK3NG         RO      O        DK3          10
07/02/08    23:15   OK1MS         RO      O        OK1          10
07/02/08    23:23   SP7DCS        RO      O        SP7          10
07/02/08    23:30   IT9CJC        RO      O        IT9          10
07/02/08    23:40   DK3EE         O      RO        --           10
07/02/08    23:45   OZ1HNE        RO      O        OZ1          10
07/02/08    23:55   YO2AMU        O      RO        YO2          10
07/02/08    23:59   SM7GVF        RO      O        SM7          10
08/02/08    00:24   F0CXO         RO      O        F0           10
08/02/08    00:30   K1JT          RO      O        K1           10
08/02/08    00:43   IK1FJI        RO      O        IK1          10
08/02/08    01:36   K6PF          O      RO        K6           10

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL OF CONTACTS: 12                          MULTIP:11    POINTS 120

FINAL SCORE: 1320

WORKED BEFORE THE EVENT TIME:  07/02/08  22:35  RO/O  PI9CAM (NEW INITIAL)

HEARD AND NOT WORKED:I1ANP-WB2RVX (I WISH TO WORK YOU AGAIN)

RIG HERE:

TX:IC275H +8877

RX: SM5BSZ WSE CONVERTERS+LINRAD + MGF1801+NORTON=36db

ANT:4X19 LOG LOOP YAGI (I3DLI) ONLY H POL.







From jimmyv at hol.gr  Sun Feb  8 18:54:49 2009
From: jimmyv at hol.gr (jimmyv at hol.gr)
Date: Sun,  8 Feb 2009 19:54:49 +0200
Subject: [Moon] cw activity events & future plans
Message-ID: <20090208195449.j81z33eg0kkc80s0@easymail-app.hol.gr>

Hi Wolfgang

I certainly agree in principle with what you say (plus the fact that i  
always & only work on random), however we want to encourage cw  
activity during the activity events.
Having said that, I do not see a problem if people arrange a sked  
through the logger before or even during, the DUBUS AW event, if they  
are new to EME and / or qrp stations. This is not an annual major EME  
Contest.
Ideally, any sked should take place outside the event times, as  
practising skills for random operation is a big asset to cw ops. What  
should in anycase be excluded is QSO info exchange progress. If any  
experienced cw station witnesses that, he/she should coach and help  
relevant stations doing it (if any at all) understand that such a  
practise does NOT constitute a valid QSO, it is against radio ethics  
and must be avoided.

See: http://www.sm2cew.com/aw_rules.html , Rules section.
4.2 During the two pre-announced time slots of the Activity Events, 2m  
CW EME is the ONLY communication allowed between a participant and the  
other stations worked. During activity time you agree not to use any  
other communication medium to give the QSO partner any QSO progress  
info, confirm whether the QSO was valid or not, or announce QSO  
accomplishments
4.3 Spotting of other stations is permitted

Finally, I strongly encourage those having any sked during the time  
slots of the activity event, to tune in the band for more stations for  
the remaining time. You will be surprised how many stations you can  
work, as well as stations tailending your sked and calling you  
afterwards!

I hope to be active on EME 2m / 70cm with new array / with bigger dish  
on 23cm / & also 13cm, in fall 2009, as I am on long qrl travels  
abroad until then. 2008 ARRL shameful, detrimental to radio contest  
rules, and work obligations has held those plans & my activity back  
since last May.
But as the rock song of Freddie Mercury/Queen goes: ''Show must go on''.
At least for the relevant cw events & cw/ssb related Contests which  
are trully worth going for!
Therefore, all new projects will materialize by then.

Vy 73
Jimmy SV1BTR

----- Original Message -----
From: Wolfgang Schlaffer
To: dubus-aw-logs at sm2cew.com
Cc: moon at moonbounce.info
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: [Moon] DL5MAEFEB.log


Hi ALL,

after almost 1 year of absence of EME I made a few contacts in the
DUBUS activity weekend. Only Europeans worked, where was JAPAN and
Oceania?
Found condx good. Wkd 10 stations (others heard, i.e. I3EVK, F0CXO,  
PA0JMV and more).

Got the feeling some contacts were arranged via CHATROOM during the event.
Maybe I am wrong, I just made some "strange observations" when turning my
VFO over the band. I hope DUBUS TESTs will remain pure random in the future.

My log:

7th OF February , times in UTC ,  all reports sent / received were "O"

1506 utc     SP7DCS
1510          G3ZIG
1515          OZ1HNE
1549          RU1AA
1608          YO2AMU
1617          OK1MS
1637          IK1FJI
1647          SM7GVF
1705          DK3BU
1744          DK3EE

Score: 10 QSOs x 9 Multis  =   90 points
ANT : 18 dbd

vy 73 de DL5MAE Wolfgang

(not QRV in 2nd part tonight)






From valter_dls at yahoo.it  Sun Feb  8 19:07:28 2009
From: valter_dls at yahoo.it (valter dolso)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:07:28 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Moon] DUBUS EVENT  IK1FJI  RESULT
Message-ID: <953392.63697.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Hello to all

VERY NICE ACTIVITY in Dubus cw event
Thanks to all stations qrv? well done...
here my log:


07/02

1)?16:20 ?IT9CJC???? O???? RO????? IT9

2)?16:27 PA0JMV?? O???? RO????? PA0

3) 16:32?SM7GVF?? O??? RO???? SM7

4) 16:35 DL5MAE?? O?? RO????? DL5

5) 16:48 OK1MS??? RO? O?????? OK1

6)?17:05?YO2AMU? RO? O?????? YO2

7) 17:25?I3EVK????? O??? RO????? I3

8)?17:34? SP7DCS? RO? O?????? SP7

9) 17:35? SM2CEW? O? RO???? SM2

10) 17:51 YU7XL???? O?? RO???? YU7

11) 17:57 F0CXO??? O?? RO???? F0

12)? 23:50 DK3NG?? RO? O????? DK3

13)? 23:53? DK3EE? RO?? O??? -------

08/02

14) 00:05?? K1JT?? O?? RO????? K1

15) 00:26? OZ1HNE O? RO??? OZ1

16) 00:36? F1JRD??? O? RO??? F1??? INIT 495 CW

17) 00:42? IK2DDR? O? RO??? IK2

TOTAL??? 17X10 =170 X 16 = 2720?? 

HEARD :? JH0HME? G3ZIG? K6PF

OUT OF SLOTS?? :? WB2RVX? INIT 496??? F0CXO (AGAIN :-))??? )

ic-275?h? GU78b? 4X12? 2.84WL? ABT 19 DBd???????? 73, Valter IK1FJI


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From sv3aaf at yahoo.com  Sun Feb  8 22:34:00 2009
From: sv3aaf at yahoo.com (SV3AAF Petros)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:34:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Moon] 23cm ssb FunTest
Message-ID: <910046.85328.qm@web59105.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

It was good fun during ssb funtest on 23.

Worked:
SSB: LA9NEA, OK1CA, OE9ERC, LX1DB, OH2PO, RW3BP good job!! SP6JLW, DF3RU, G4CCH, GW3XYW, IW2FZR, G3LTF, HB9Q, HB9MOON, K2UYH, PI9CAM
Mixed CW/SSB: UT5JCW
CW: DL1YMK, GW3XYW again, OK3RM, N2UO

Heard on SSB: ON4BCB, OZ4MM, ON7UN, VE6TA and 2-3 other stations I cannot recall, also partials from stations replying to my calls that did not complete.

At high moon I switched to 13, did a lot of echo testing also on ssb. It was only the four of us: me, myself and I and the echoes, no trace of anyone else.

73, Petros, sv3aaf




      
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From oz1hne at post8.tele.dk  Mon Feb  9 22:45:33 2009
From: oz1hne at post8.tele.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F8rgen_Kristiansen?=)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 22:45:33 +0100
Subject: [Moon] OZ1HNE DUBUS 144MHz CW EME Event result,
Message-ID: <008301c98aff$be2e03b0$5a2df23e@privatqvfgt3vl>

Hi EME'ers

I was QRV in both parts of the Event, and enjoyed the very good activity. I found good condition
with nice signals and stabil polarity. I had from time to time heavy rainfall with S9+ QRM, so sorry 
for the stations I missed and all my QRZ. We will work next time.
I worked the following stations random:

7/2 2009:
-----------------------------

1506  I3EVK
1515  DL5MAE
1521  OK1MS
1540  SM2CEW
1612  G3ZIG
1618  JH0MHE
1624  OH6CH    #
1630  YO2AMU
1642  IT9CJC
1649  DK3BU
1656  PA0JMV
1727  JH2COZ
1744  I1ANP
2307  SM7GVF
2311  SP7DCS
2319  K1JT
2326  F0CXO
2345  IK2DDR

8/2 2009:
----------------------------
0028 IK1FJI
0035 DK3EE
0107 YU7XL
 
Thanks to all for the QSO's. It was all great fun and I look very much forward to hear all signals again in the next Event.

Best 73, OZ1HNE Jorgen.

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From i5wbe at i5wbe.it  Tue Feb 10 15:40:46 2009
From: i5wbe at i5wbe.it (Enrico Baldacci)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:40:46 +0100
Subject: [Moon] test
Message-ID: <499191EE.2070807@i5wbe.it>




From i5wbe at i5wbe.it  Tue Feb 10 18:06:44 2009
From: i5wbe at i5wbe.it (Enrico Baldacci)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:06:44 +0100
Subject: [Moon] Results of 15th Italian EME Contest CW / SSB 2008
Message-ID: <4991B424.1040404@i5wbe.it>

Results of 15th Italian EME Contest CW / SSB 2008

Band: 144 MHz
Category A)                   n.qso      It stn.   Point              
Antenna
1)     YO3FFF            4          1            61               5 WL .
2)      VA3TO            2          1            41                2 x 
2.5 WL.
3)     SM7WSJ           1          1            10                14 el M2 .

Category B)
1)    PA3CWN         13         3            193              4 x 9 
el.DK7ZB
2)    G4DOL              1         1              31               4 x  
1.7 WL.

Category C)
1)    YO2AMU       25          6            376               4 x 4WL BVO .
2)    SM7GVF        22          5            325               8 x 8 el. 
(16WL).
3)    RU1AC            8          1             101               17.6 WL:
4)    DL2LAH         4           1              61                4 x 12 
el. DK7ZB .
5)    RV9UV           3           1              51                4 x 
12 el. VE7BQH.
5)   SV2KBS          3           1              51                4 x 17 
el. (13.2 WL).

Category D)
1)    SP7DCS         38          8            548               16 x 8 
el. ( 32WL).
2)    OK1MS          30         5            405                8 x 4WL .
3)    G3ZIG            26         5            365                8 x 
3.99 WL .
4)    JH0WJF           6         1              81                8 yagi 
( 39WL).

Category F)
1)    LA8YB          40         8             568               16 x 
17M2 ( 154WL).

Category Cross yagi C)
1)   OZ1HNE        31         6             436                8 x 8el. 
4WL, H/V.

Category E)
1)   RU1AA         32           6             446                 
Category E, H/V .

  Band:  432 MHz
Category B)
1)    N4GJV          8          1           101          4 x 6.84 WL.
2)    SV3AAF       3          1             51          4 x 8.7 WL.
3)    YO2IS           2          1             41          4 x 7.7WL.
4)    K6JEY          1          1             10           4 x 25 K1FO 
(28WL).

Category  C)
1)    JN1NNJ        9          1           111          16 x 2.7 WL.
2)    SP6JLW       7          1              91            8 x 32 el BV


Band: 1296 MHz

1)    ON7UN       15         3           213          6.1mt. Dish .
2)    SP6JLW      14         3           203           6.5mt. Dish .
3)    SV3AAF     12         3           183          3.9mt. Dish.
4)    VA7MM       9         3           153          3mt. Dish .
4)    ON4BCB      9         3           153          4.9mt. Dish .
6)    SM5LE        9          2           132          2.2mt. mesh Dish.

Band: 2.3 GHz

1)    RW1AW     31        2           352           6mt Dish.
2)    SP6GWN    16        -            160           2.7mt. Dish .

Band:  5.7 GHz

1)    RW1AW     6         1              81           6mt. Dish.

Band:  10 GHz

1)    F5JWF       13        2             172             -
2)    RW1AW    13        1             151           6mt. Dish .
3)    SP6JSG       6         1               81           3mt. Dish.

Band: 24 GHz

1)    DF1OI         3         -               30           2.4mt 
offset-Dish.

  Italian Stations 144 MHz
Cat C)
1)    IK1FJI        29        3             290         4 x 2.84WL
2)    IK2DDR     27        7             270         4 x 19LLY.
3)    I3EVK        17        3             170         4 x 19LLY .
4)    I2RV          10        2              100         4 x 4WL .
5)    I5WBE        4         2                40         4 x 5WL.
6)    I1ANP        5          1      Check-log      4 x 4.4 WL BV.

Category E cross yagi
1)   IK3MAC     66       10            660         24 LLY H + 24 Yagi V

Band: 432 MHz

1)    I1NDP        16         -          160            16 x 8.5 WL BV .

Band:.  1296 MHz

1)    IK3COJ       9         1            90             3.8mt. Dish .

Band:  10 GHz

1)    IQ4DF       20         4           200           7mt. Dish .

Italian stations active in the contest; I1ANP, I1NDP, IK1FJI, I2RV, 
IK2DDR, IK2MMB, IK2RTI, IW2FZR, IZ2DJP, I3EVK, IK3CAG, IK3COJ, IK3MAC, 
IV3GBO, I4BER, IQ4DF, I5WBE, IT9CHU, IT9CJC, IT9EQO.

Winners for Categories ; YO3FFF, PA3CWN, YO2AMU, SP7DCS, LA8YB, OZ1HNE, 
RU1AA, N4GJV, JN1NNJ, ON7UN, RW1AW, F5JWF, DF1OI, IK1FJI, IK3MAC, I1NDP, 
IK3COJ, IQ4DF .

The Awards will be consigned during the 18th Italian EME Meeting, on 
25th, 26th April 2009, at the Hotel Joseph, Marina di Pietrasanta (LU).
The Awards not consigned during EME Meeting they will be sent as usual 
by mail to the address signed on the log.

Please send also logs with poor or low activity they are welcome for a 
check - control.

The ARRL on 2008 had organized the contest on the same date also if  I 
have publicised the date before, I hope on the future to have a 
different date.
Next Italian EME Contest are :
4th Italian EME Contest digi mode, (only digital mode) 30th, 31th May 2009 .
17th Italian EME Contest (CW,SSB) Memorial I0UGB Giuseppe Urbani, 12th, 
13th September 2009.

   To all Moon guys, 73, Mario I1ANP   Italian EME Coordinator ARI.








From df6na at df6na.de  Tue Feb 10 21:06:59 2009
From: df6na at df6na.de (Rainer)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:06:59 +0100
Subject: [Moon] [Fwd: [Moon-net] Microwave Update 2009 Announcement]
Message-ID: <4991DE63.2070201@df6na.de>


-- 



VHF/UHF/SHF Online Toplist:
http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html

DF6NA Homepage:
http://www.df6na.de/

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http://www.afu-flohmarkt.de/

VHF-DX.net:
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From sp7dcs at wp.pl  Tue Feb 10 22:57:51 2009
From: sp7dcs at wp.pl (Chris SP7DCS)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:57:51 +0100
Subject: [Moon] 2m dubus & 23cm ssb contest result
Message-ID: <4991F85F.5080008@wp.pl>

Hi,
At first thanks for all for great fun and all qsos. Especially for new 
stations on both bands.
I was qrv on 23cm on Friday. On Sathurday I switched to 2m and was qrv 
in whole first pass of Dubus Event.
Later I made QSY to 23cm for SSB contest and came back to 2m for 2h of 
second pass of Dubus Event.
I was also on for few hours on 2m on Sunday.
Although on 2m condx were great and most signals were very strong, there 
were also some stations I could not dig out from noise.
Please call me once again in next event or send me a sked proposal.

2m Dubus Event log - 2m CW random (16x8el+gs35b):
07.02.09    DL5MAE    I3EVK    UA3PTW#    IT9CJC    YO2AMU    
JR3REX-qsoNC    G3ZIG    JH0WJF
RU1AA    YU7XL    PA0JMV    DK3BU    IK1FJI    JH0MHE    SM7GVF    
OK1MS    DK3EE    OZ1HNE    IK2DDR
I1ANP    K1JT    F0CXO

08.02.09    F1JRD#    DK3NG    K6PF
TOTAL SCORE: 240p x 21m =5040points

On Sunday, 2m CW random:
09.02.09    RV9UV#    DK5LA#320    F0CXO    YO2AMU

I was also qrv on 23cm (3m dish+200W). On Friday I worked:
06.02.09    GW3XYW# (dxcc 24)    G3LTF    ON4BCB#

On Sathurday I tried SSB on 23cm for the first time with my small 
station. Thank for you patience and congrats for good ears.
Due to 2m event activity in this contest was limited.

07.02.09    SSB:    OE9ERC 54/43 HB9Q 55/52 LX1DB 55/55 PI9CAM 53/53
08.02.09    OK3RM#64 (CW outside contest)

So it was very productive weekend. 36qsos and 7 initials on both bands.
See you on 2m, 70cm and 23cm CW eme.

VY 73 ! de Chris SP7DCS

-- 
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email - sp7dcs at wp.pl, sp7dcs at o2.pl, sp7dcs at smrw.lodz.pl
EME PAGE - http://sp7dcs.webpark.pl



From tikaluna at bigpond.com  Wed Feb 11 05:27:48 2009
From: tikaluna at bigpond.com (Doug McArthur)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:27:48 +1100
Subject: [Moon] VK3UM Fire report
Message-ID: <20090211042809.YQAD12531.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@tikaluna-jjn6i8.bigpond.com>

Dear friends
We have received a huge amount of emails and Bev and I are very 
touched with your concern.
I will respond singularly when we can get time but I will give you a 
very brief summary as of  1530 EDST  0430z Wednesday 11th Feb .
We are both ok .. nothing like a few hours sleep and a hot shower. 
Things are still chaotic . We had over 80 spot fires yesterday 
afternoon (all round us) and one in the bottom
paddock of our property. A hectare of my neighbours place went too. 
We got to bed at 0430 and up at 0645 with another outbreak. Words 
cannot describe the devastation. Its blowing up to 75 kph now and 
towns are still being evacuated. We got our phone and Internet back 
after 4 days of nothing. It could be weeks before mains power is 
restored. It will be a massive job. We are running on our diesel 
stand by plant so we have pumps and a basic house supply. Our area 
has been isolated. This situation may last for weeks. Its far from 
over. A major fire that started less than 2 kms from here was 
responsible for the devastation at Alexander, Narbethong and 
Marysville and now Healsville. It travelled 30kms in less than 2 
hours.The comradery has been as only country people would know, and I 
must make special mention of the fantastic help we have received from 
the Pipeline Alliance who too have worked around the clock with us 
(Country Fire Brigade) operating bulldozers, graders, water trucks 
and everything they have on hand. Our fire shed is powered by one of 
their generators.
Again thank you all sincerely for your emails of concern and good wishes .
We have really have been incredibly fortunate (so far) and question 
why, when so many of our friends have lost everything (and some their lives).
73 / 88 de Bev and Doug .. VK3UM

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From DL1YMK at aol.com  Wed Feb 11 19:35:50 2009
From: DL1YMK at aol.com (DL1YMK at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:35:50 EST
Subject: [Moon] 23cm Hybrid
Message-ID: <d0b.429ea9cf.36c47486@aol.com>

Hi gents,
 
is there anybody out there, who has a spare commercial 90? hybrid coupler  
for 1.3 GHz to let (with SMA-connectors and slim outline), having a power  
rating of 50 W? If so, please drop me an email with your price idea. 
 
Tnx es 73 de 
 
Michael
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From graham.d at orange.fr  Thu Feb 12 09:13:23 2009
From: graham.d at orange.fr (graham)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:13:23 +0100
Subject: [Moon] [Moon-net] Sequencer use and wiring that I use here.
In-Reply-To: <002301c98c93$02e60540$6401a8c0@workcad>
References: <002301c98c93$02e60540$6401a8c0@workcad>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20090212091201.01dea598@pop.orange.fr>


>
>4.    TRANSVERTER PTT on, this I always do last. In my case I only have 10 
>MW of drive to transverter input.

tvt must have a hell of a mixer ! !

:-)

Graham F5VHX 




From dfaessler at bluewin.ch  Fri Feb 13 09:02:17 2009
From: dfaessler at bluewin.ch (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dominique_F=E4ssler_=28HB9BBD=29?=)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:02:17 +0100
Subject: [Moon] [Moon-net] Noise Figure Question
In-Reply-To: <0KEY0060CUTZ00U0@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <495C824F01329C3C@tr11.bluewin.ch> (added by postmaster@bluewin.ch)

Doug
This is an excerpt of http://www.hb9bbd.ch/article.php3?key=8


My friend Paul Chominsky, WA6PY has written the following note for further
understanding the complex problem of the effects of mismatch:

-? When measuring NF, any change in input return loss of an LNA is directly
exchangeable for NF. PHEMT LNAs at 1.3 GHz have a high input Q value.
According to the Fano-Bode criterion, we cannot obtain a better input return
loss (RL) than a certain value over a specified bandwidth. With such a high
Q load, we could design a very narrow band matching circuit and
theoretically handle an RL close to infinity, but the question is how to
design such a matching circuit and keep its losses to a very low value. The
ratio Loaded Q to Unloaded Q of a matching circuit is related to loss and
consequently limits NF. We want the lowest possible loss input circuit for
best NF. In order to provide a very narrow band for matching satisfying
Fano-Bode criterion, we might need a matching circuit that has an unloaded Q
value close to infinity. The fact is that in order to achieve very low NF,
we do not need very good RL. In ham applications a very good LNA RL is
usually not necessary. I do not think that for very low NF using a PHEMT
with a gate of 0.2 x 200 microns, we can achieve RL < -4 dB. If we use a
device with a broader gate, then the input Q will be lower and we can get a
better RL. But the noise temperature (due to the PHEMT) might slightly rise.
The problem is that there is no commercial production of such PHEMT devices,
because there are no applications other then for amateur radio moonbouncing
that need such devices. The radio astronomers cool down their LNAs to 4.2
deg K. Measurement of the RL depends on the RF input power because a PHEMT
is a non-linear device. Minimum NF can be obtained only for very low input
RF power. NF measurements of high RL devices are very sensitive to the
mismatch of the ON and OFF states of the noise source. I never optimize my
LNAs alone. I always have all the adapters and isolation relay in place
during optimization. The RL of my feed horn is <-26 dB. Thus when I connect
my system all together, I can verify by measuring Cold sky/Ground noise that
the system works as designed.
73 HB9BBD Dominique

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net
[mailto:moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net] Im Auftrag von Doug Millar
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. Februar 2009 19:47
An: moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net
Cc: moon at moonbounce.info.
Betreff: [Moon-net] Noise Figure Question


Regarding System NF adjustment-
	If you are using a preamp with a cavity front end and a modern FET, 
like HB9BBD's, is the input essentially 50 ohms, or is it some other 
Z? If it is not matched, how much is it worth the effort to do a cold 
sky/warm earth XY noise measurement?  The 8970A noise figure meter 
will do this kind of measurement, but I wonder if anyone has, and is 
it worth the effort?
	Doug K6JEY


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From g3ltf at btinternet.com  Fri Feb 13 11:42:12 2009
From: g3ltf at btinternet.com (peter blair)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:42:12 -0000
Subject: [Moon] 9cm activity weekend
Message-ID: <2960AE977EB14EA5892195736125EFEB@D7BX6Z0J>

 In the last two years we have held a 9cm activity weekend in June and I would like to propose that we do the same again this year. June 20/21 looks like a good weekend  to hold it.  If you have a 9cm allocation in your country but are not yet active then look at the links below for some more information.
 http://www.moonbounce.info/3.4%20GHz%20Moonbounce%20Made%20Easy.pdf
http://www.ntms.org/files/Florence_%203_4.pdf
http://vk3nx.com/9cm.html
 There is also more info on QSOs etc in the 432 and above newsletters for July / August 2007 and 2008,  see http://www.nitehawk.com/rasmit/em70cm_arc.html
 All the activity last year was on 3400.100 +/- but if you  have only 3456 MHz capability then all the NA stations and several other stations around the world can operate on 3456 or work crossband, so dont be put off giving 9cm eme a try.
73 Peter G3LTF 
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From jh1krc at syd.odn.ne.jp  Fri Feb 13 14:01:08 2009
From: jh1krc at syd.odn.ne.jp (M. Watanabe)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:01:08 +0900
Subject: [Moon] 23cm Hybrid
In-Reply-To: <d0b.429ea9cf.36c47486@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20090213130108962.CNXO.8272.wememta102.odn.ne.jp@mta102.odn.ne.jp>

Hi Michael,  
 

   Have you seen this HP?  He has a lot of useful things for EME.  

 http://www.w6pql.com/parts_i_can_provide.htm 

I utilize sequencer for 8J1EME system.  I have bought the power 
hibrid for my 300W SSPAs, which were used at 8N1EME before,  but not have worked yet.  

Mike JH1KRC


---- DL1YMK at aol.com wrote: 
> Hi gents,
>  
> is there anybody out there, who has a spare commercial 90? hybrid coupler  
> for 1.3 GHz to let (with SMA-connectors and slim outline), having a power  
> rating of 50 W? If so, please drop me an email with your price idea. 
>  
> Tnx es 73 de 
>  
> Michael



From g3ltf at btinternet.com  Fri Feb 13 18:23:16 2009
From: g3ltf at btinternet.com (peter blair)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:23:16 -0000
Subject: [Moon] Test, my postings are not getting through
Message-ID: <A32E22FEAA4640EF82F5F6FCBF3A8B04@D7BX6Z0J>

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From g3ltf at btinternet.com  Fri Feb 13 18:34:13 2009
From: g3ltf at btinternet.com (peter blair)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:34:13 -0000
Subject: [Moon] apologies, postings now OK
Message-ID: <939F099EC2C44656A30F7741DE6348FB@D7BX6Z0J>

 For some reason my ISPs spam filter is trapping all the moon-net and moon postings. I'm trying to re-train it according to instructions. I forgot that this was happening and so I was surprised when I didn't see my own postings appear.
 Apologies for the bandwidth.
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From k7xq at elite.net  Sat Feb 14 03:31:09 2009
From: k7xq at elite.net (K7XQ)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:31:09 -0800
Subject: [Moon] K7XQ QRV 432 Feb 14th  0700 UTC
Message-ID: <000001c98e4c$4f7d9a20$6601a8c0@K7XQH>

Hello All,
I will be QRV 432 EME at my moonrise Feb 14th 0700 UTC. If anyone would
like to try, let me know.
Activity has been very low last several nights.

K7XQ Jeff
Atwater,CA.
Grid: CM97qi

50 MHz: 1 X 6M7 modified for XPOL 13 dBd GS35b 1500W
144 MHz: 4 X 2MPX20 w/polarity rot 19.5 dBd single GS35B 1500W
432 MHz: 8 X 7 W.L. XPOL 25 dBd single GS-35B
1296 MHz: 3.0 meter dish 27.5 dBd single GS-15B 400W
2304 MHz: 3.0 meter dish 32.5 dBd Spectrain SSPA 180W
10 GHz: 3.0 meter dish Varian TWTA 20W



From k7xq at elite.net  Sat Feb 14 04:03:21 2009
From: k7xq at elite.net (K7XQ)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:03:21 -0800
Subject: [Moon] QSL info for JR4ZZS ?
Message-ID: <000101c98e50$ce61bed0$6601a8c0@K7XQH>

Does anyone have the QSL address info for JR4ZZS ?


K7XQ Jeff
Atwater,CA.
Grid: CM97qi

50 MHz: 1 X 6M7 modified for XPOL 13 dBd GS35b 1500W
144 MHz: 4 X 2MPX20 w/polarity rot 19.5 dBd single GS35B 1500W
432 MHz: 8 X 7 W.L. XPOL 25 dBd single GS-35B
1296 MHz: 3.0 meter dish 27.5 dBd single GS-15B 400W
2304 MHz: 3.0 meter dish 32.5 dBd Spectrain SSPA 180W
10 GHz: 3.0 meter dish Varian TWTA 20W

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From tikaluna at bigpond.com  Sat Feb 14 04:32:02 2009
From: tikaluna at bigpond.com (Doug McArthur)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 14:32:02 +1100
Subject: [Moon] VK3UM 'Final' Fire report
Message-ID: <20090214033221.MFSW19114.nskntotgx01p.mx.bigpond.com@tikaluna-jjn6i8.bigpond.com>

Dear Friends
Sunday 14th 1230 hrs EDST (0130z) 2009. Exactly 7days to the hour 
when it all began.
The crisis has eased here considerably. We still have a lot of small 
spot fires and visibility is less than 100 meters with the smoke .. 
we stink, in more ways than one, as Mains power is still days away 
and a hot shower would be great. (there is less to wash though in the 
cold water!) It is an eerie sight and from this location as we are a 
small island (hill) of un burnt ground surrounded by what can only be 
described as sheer and total devastation. We have lost ~20 homes, 
countless outbuildings etc, but incredibly no fatalities. (that is a 
10kms radius of Glenburn/Murrindindi). Unfortunately our adjacent 
hamlets of Kinglake, Flowerdale, Strath Creek, Hazeldene, Dixons and 
Steels Creek have effectively been removed (temporarily) from the 
map. We are still trying to establish contact with friends and 
associates and things are grim. Bev and I have avoided watching TV as 
much as possible as reliving it again is not pleasant. We were 
continually bombarded with ember attack (bark and leaves) that could 
be heard hitting the house roof (5 nights and days of it). The sheds 
are full of ash and debris and the house reeks of smoke and fine ash. 
We are unbelievably lucky and it is impossible to comprehend that the 
whole place is left standing. Containment lines have been carved 
through the bush 60 meters wide stretching from Strath Creek to our 
property here near Murrindindi. The "Pipe people' did it and it is so 
enormous it may be possibly to be seen from the Moon!. If we see 
pipes appear next along it next there will be real strife ! They (The 
Alliance) have been just brilliant. Bev and I have received over 250 
emails from concerned friends for which we are so grateful. (almost 
make DXCC!) It will not be feasible to respond directly to you all in 
the near future. There is a huge amount to do around the district. We 
(our community) are overwhelmed with all the "stuff" , from food 
including (dog, cat, horse and bird seed), clothes, toiletries etc 
that has some how appeared at our fire station. It is certainly being 
distributed to those who are in need, many who also are most 
reluctant to accept as 'others are worse off'. Thank you all, and 
thank you so much for you lovely messages.
73 88 Bev and Doug VK3UM




From ve1alq at nbnet.nb.ca  Sat Feb 14 14:57:41 2009
From: ve1alq at nbnet.nb.ca (Darrell)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:57:41 -0400
Subject: [Moon] Analysis & Design, And Much More
In-Reply-To: <766072.54789.qm@web24702.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <766072.54789.qm@web24702.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20090214135805.HIID1652.simmts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@simip9-ac.srvr.bell.ca>


Hi Folks;
I have uploaded 38 (many megabyte that I have been hoarding over the 
years), of very Technical PDF Files to the Site, very heavy in Math 
is mostly for Engineering Design applications, but also very 
educational for the minimal Technical Folks as well.

They range in PDF File size from 3Meg to 160Meg so please download 
only those you needs if you will and keep in mind that the Site is on 
a SHARED IP Address that can get slow if many are downloading at 
once, and Host provider could SHUT me down, so please use GOOD 
Judgement in downloading.
Samples shown below and hope the URL get through the E-mail Reflectors, hi

Regards,Thanks & Enjoy, Darrell.......Please disregard the MISS 
SPELLING in the URL links......I will someday correct them, hi hi.


http://www.ve1alq.com/RF%20and%20Microwave/index.htm

<http://www.ve1alq.com/RF%20and%20Microwave/Analysis & Design of IC - 
Antenna Modules.pdf>1/ Analysis & Design of IC - Antenna Modules .pdf

<http://www.ve1alq.com/RF%20and%20Microwave/Coplanar Waveguide 
Circuits, Components & Systems.pdf>5/ Coplanar Waveguide Circuits, 
Compnents-Systems.pdf

<http://www.ve1alq.com/RF%20and%20Microwave/Intermodulation 
Distortion in Microwave and Wireless Circuits.pdf>8/ Intermodulation 
Distortion In Microwave and Wireless Circuits.pdf

<http://www.ve1alq.com/RF%20and%20Microwave/Antenna-Modern Design - 
Milligan.pdf>38/Antenna-Modern Design - Milligan.pdf
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From ve1alq at nbnet.nb.ca  Sat Feb 14 22:19:50 2009
From: ve1alq at nbnet.nb.ca (Darrell)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 17:19:50 -0400
Subject: [Moon] Analysis & Design, And Much More
Message-ID: <20090214212005.YSBR1679.simmts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@simip12-ab.srvr.bell.ca>

Hi Folks;
I was informed with appreciation that file 17/ Microwave Mixers was 
corrupt, and so it was......this pdf is made you of Page Images and 
they do become corrupted rather easy for some reason.

In any case a NEW file # 17/  is un there and working.........make 
sure you empty your Browser Temporary  Internet Files before going 
after it again, hi.

If any one find more corrupted files please let me know

Regards & Thanks, Darrell


http://www.ve1alq.com/RF%20and%20Microwave/index.htm

<http://www.ve1alq.com/>Regards & Thanks, Darrell

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From sm2cew at telia.com  Mon Feb 16 21:01:14 2009
From: sm2cew at telia.com (Peter Sundberg)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:01:14 +0000
Subject: [Moon] Dubus CW event
Message-ID: <20090216195802.28C612FCFF@mail.allt1.se>

Excellent activity in the last Dubus CW Event, see reports with nice
pictures at 

http://www.sm2cew.com/aw_logs.html

Thanks, all reports are welcome!

73 de Peter SM2CEW








From sm5le at telia.com  Mon Feb 16 22:47:28 2009
From: sm5le at telia.com (SM5LE)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:47:28 +0100
Subject: [Moon] Some more sale
Message-ID: <9C39570079E5402CAE678CBED5E72D16@sven8aee87826d>

Hi

Finaly findings in SM5LE "junk-box" (LNA FET?s are no "junk" :-)

http://web.telia.com/~u14901544/

73 Sven
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From ndevries at kvi.nl  Wed Feb 18 08:49:22 2009
From: ndevries at kvi.nl (Nanko de Vries)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:49:22 +0100
Subject: [Moon] PLISCH ULV273 cavity for sale
Message-ID: <C510FA4AC101433E9083CE18E09F87D7@WINDOWS.KVI.NL>

I have a unmodified ULV273  (70/23 cm TH327/347 ) cavity for sale
Gold plated version
Please mail for more info.

Nanko  PA0V
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From la9nea at online.no  Wed Feb 18 17:22:25 2009
From: la9nea at online.no (Viggo Magnus LA9NEA)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:22:25 +0100
Subject: [Moon] QSL card adress.
Message-ID: <0844A9971EAD4309A7574D75BB0462EB@LA9NEA>

Hello All!

Working with QSL card this day's......and looking for adress to this  fine 1296 eme station : K3YNZ/0........

73 Viggo  LA9NEA



LA9NEA 23 cm EME set up:
Icom 756 pro II
TR1296H trv Kuhne
6 x 7289 ring PA ,500 watt,
MKU 13200B(spare PA) 250 watt SSPA,
5.3 meter dish,
VE4MA Feed
1.stage preamp.Cavity NE32484 0.28 dB
2.stage Kuhne  MGF 4953A 0.4 dB
JO59dx
Autotracking by W2DRZ,
VK3UM tracking at screen.
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From rbiggar at ihug.co.nz  Thu Feb 19 01:11:37 2009
From: rbiggar at ihug.co.nz (Ross)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:11:37 +1300
Subject: [Moon] LMR600 coaxial cable
Message-ID: <9F38366E84304B1FB8058FD54CCF5D07@RossBeast>


To ensure my 1296 set up is ok I have been checking the TX cable with my HP438A power meter and its associated
load and sensor, (the load is flat to 4ghz)
I have no problems getting a very good SWR with LDF5-50 or the more flexible variant VLX5-50,somewhere below 1.2.

However I am having problems with LMR600. It is probably due to the connectors, but I find that whenever I try and use the
LMR600 the SWR ends up well above 1.5:1.

Has anyone else used LMR600 and importantly have you used it succesfully. I can see its advantages of being reasonably
flexible and thus allowing for dish movement but if I cannot be assured that it will work successfully, then I need to find another 
cable type.

Comments please

Ross

ps: I could use VLX5-50 right up to the feed horn but I still need at least a short length of a  flexible coax at the dish mounting to allow for azimuth and elevation
movement,  what is being used. ?  (VLX5-50 is slightly flexible but it certainly is not suitable to allow for dish movement.


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From sv3aaf at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 19 08:08:25 2009
From: sv3aaf at yahoo.com (SV3AAF Petros)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:08:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Moon] LMR600 coaxial cable
In-Reply-To: <9F38366E84304B1FB8058FD54CCF5D07@RossBeast>
Message-ID: <899584.80728.qm@web59107.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Arrange the mechanicals and use LDF4-50. Replace if it breaks after long-long use.
Ecoflex-15 is also ok, better flexibility/bit worse performance but it is not in abundance.

LMR and VXL cables are for other business.

73, Petros

--- On Thu, 2/19/09, Ross <rbiggar at ihug.co.nz> wrote:
From: Ross <rbiggar at ihug.co.nz>
Subject: [Moon] LMR600 coaxial cable
To: Moon at moonbounce.info
Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 2:11 AM



 
 

?
To ensure my 1296 set up 
is ok I have been checking the TX cable with my HP438A power meter and its 
associated
load and sensor, (the load is flat to 
4ghz)
I have no problems getting a very good SWR with 
LDF5-50 or the more flexible variant VLX5-50,somewhere below 1.2.
?
However I am having problems with LMR600. It is 
probably due to the connectors, but I find that whenever I try and use 
the
LMR600 the SWR ends up well above 
1.5:1.
?
Has anyone else used LMR600 and importantly have 
you used it succesfully. I can see its advantages of being 
reasonably
flexible and thus allowing for dish movement but if 
I cannot be assured that it will work successfully, then I need to find another 

cable type.
?
Comments please
?
Ross
?
ps: I could use VLX5-50 right up to the feed horn 
but I still need at least a short length of a ?flexible coax at the dish 
mounting to allow for azimuth and elevation
movement,? what is being used.??? 
(VLX5-50 is slightly flexible but it certainly is not suitable to allow for dish 
movement.

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From df2zc1 at googlemail.com  Thu Feb 19 20:46:02 2009
From: df2zc1 at googlemail.com (DF2ZC)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:46:02 +0100
Subject: [Moon] The 144 MHz EME NewsLetter February Edition...
Message-ID: <00a001c992ca$b34c9740$eb02a8c0@SHACK>

...is now ready for download at www.df2zc.de/newsletter

vy 73 Bernd DF2ZC (JO30RN)
www.df2zc.de

____________________________________________
144 MHz EME NewsLetter:
www.df2zc.de/newsletter

144 MHz DXCC #21
144 MHz WAC

Kenwood TS 2000
2 x GU74b by LZ2US
4 x 2M18XXX 21 dBd full elevation



From zs6axt at telkomsa.net  Fri Feb 20 09:24:17 2009
From: zs6axt at telkomsa.net (Ivo Chladek)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:24:17 +0200
Subject: [Moon] Fw: EL SENSOR
Message-ID: <007001c99334$9f064320$0300000a@ZS6AXT>

 EL SENSOR


> Hi,
> I wonder if somebody can help me; I had built up EL sensors (two) for my 3 
> cm EME dish with ADXL311 chips. Not installed, just laying in the back 
> shack. But the EMP from the lighning strike was so strong, that both are 
> gone and so far I did not manage to find replacement, since they are 
> obsolete I was told ! Anybody has some in his drawer, perhaps ? That would 
> help me to start with EME tests on 3cm.
> Thanks,
> 73, Ivo, ZS6AXT
> _______________________
> Ivo Chladek
> ZS6AXT at TELKOMSA.NET
> +27-11-664-7883
> loc. KG33VV.82
> 



From jh1krc at syd.odn.ne.jp  Sat Feb 21 05:20:21 2009
From: jh1krc at syd.odn.ne.jp (M. Watanabe)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:20:21 +0900
Subject: [Moon] Instead of AGC off...
Message-ID: <20090221042021817.ICDG.8707.wememta101.odn.ne.jp@mta101.odn.ne.jp>

    At the EME Conference in Florence last year, I remember OMs 
were discussing something about measuring gain, or noise level 
using receiver/transceiver with the AGC off.   

    No one, nor did I mentioned to a rig which you cannot put off 
the AGC for this purpose.   It is perhaps a common knowledge 
for the solution.   It's very easy.   But how do you make it, and 
how could be the result?    Then I made an experiment.   


(Method) 
    Just turn the RF GAIN (which uses the AGC voltage to reduce 
the RX gain,and to mute) so that the S-meter comes up a few 
dBs above the maximum signal/noise level, then the AGC of 
your rig does not any more compress the signal/noise output.   

    It means the same as if you put off the AGC of your rig, except 
for the receiver sensitivity and AF output voltage to a certain level 
of RF signal/noise input to the rig.   Using a certain AC voltmeter 
which indicates dBs, you can measure the signal/noise input level 
from the RX AF output (preferably this does not change with AF 
gain control).  


(Materials)  
    On 432MHz, my IC-970D transceiver with a CW 250Hz filter, 
800Hz single-tone was made with R&S SG SMY-01.   From the 
ACC2, AF(Main RX, 4.7k Ohms) output as measured by HP 
4300A RMS voltmeter, 600 Ohms input.    Putting a 3.4k Ohms
resister in series from AF output into a small AF transformer 
of 1.2k:600 Ohms.

(Results)  
  Signal input level was changed between -138dBm and -35dBm.  
My IC-970D shows S9 with -98dBm RF input.   The S-meter 
linearity below  S9 is not at all confidential.  S9+60dB was indicated with -45dBm input.   Meter indication over S9 could be 
almost linear (within 3dB or so).    The S-meter has not been 
calibrated after the purchase (means over 15 years or so).  

    Measuring result was marvellous.  Using HP 3400A RMS voltmeter, from -60dB (0.001 volt) up to -10dB (0.3 volt) ranges, 
AF output at ACC2 AF(M) showed very good linearity to the RF 
input between -138dBm and -48dBm  (just below S9+60) within 
a difference of ca. 1dB maximum.   

(Conclusion)  
     RF GAIN was adjusted when the RF input was below or above 
-90dBm to maintain propper AF output levels.  Without adjusting 
the RF GAIN, this method can measure the signal levels almost 
linearly within ca. 50dB range.    
     For signal/noise level measurement, this method could be 
more accurate than to use S-meter of your rig.   This easurement 
method might be limited by the RX noise ratio and the accuracy of 
the AF level meter.    Do not forget to match the impedances of 
the AF output and the voltmeter input.  

    By employing a good LNA in front of your rig, you would be able to measure more  lower signal levels.  But possible mis-
matching the impedances easily causes a massive error in gain 
measurement( so does in noise figure measurement).   PSE be 
more careful!!

    If you use moderately-old-fashioned rig, like me, and the 
AGC cannot be put off, this measuring method is surely recommendable.   

(Thanks) 
   To whom discussed the measurement with AGC put off and did 
not mention to this method (I forgot who they were and what they 
were arguing about), and to Bun Tamura JA5FNX who reminded 
me this simple method obviously useful.


Mike JH1KRC 






From dl1ymk at aol.com  Sat Feb 21 18:15:10 2009
From: dl1ymk at aol.com (dl1ymk at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:15:10 -0500
Subject: [Moon] MI/DL1YMK Moonbounce DXpedition
Message-ID: <8CB625F160A6CA8-29C-21AD@webmail-mx01.sysops.aol.com>


Hi all,

now the time has come to announce our?2009 EME DXpedition.? From Sunday, 24th of May to Thursday 11th of June we will be radio-active under MI/DL1YMK from Northern Ireland.? It will hopefully be our first 4-band EME DXpedition, as we plan to activate 70, 23, 13 cm and for the first time 9 cm. The 23 cm DUBUS Contest is covered by this period (30th/31st May).?

It is quite a difficult period of time moon-wise, because we have only the second half of the declination period. That is the reason for presenting a?timetable with all 4 bands in the first week (with somewhat higher declination), despite the fact that it will be normal working days for many hams. Anyhow, we have planned a second day on all bands around weekends, despite the fact that the declination already is very low then (especially 5th/6th of June). 



Because of the immense transportation costs for the equipment to Uruguay last year, we this year will perform a kind of ?low budget? DXpedition by car (saving money for another ?DX? -DXpedition 2010, hi ;-), stuffing all rig in Monika?s SUV (hopefully it fits!) and set out by car (including 2 ferries?) to Maggee Island (IO74du), where we booked a nice holiday home. Weather permitting (it is AGAIN a very windy location - we love to take the risk, it seems?), we will able to bring Northern Ireland on the moon for the first time on 23, 13 and 9cm.



In short our?operating plan?is as follows: 
24.05.- 23cm, 25.05.-23cm, 26.05.-13cm, 27.05. - 9cm, 28.05.- 23 cm, 29.05.- 70 cm, 30./31.05. - 23 cm (DUBUS), 01.06. - 13cm, 02.06. 23 cm (JT), 05.06. - 23cm, 06.06. - 70cm, the rest of the days is sparetime - just in case..

?Joe, K1RQG has the complete operating plan?and kindly agreed to make skeds for us as in previous years.

Vy 73 de M & M

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From sm5le at telia.com  Sat Feb 21 23:29:48 2009
From: sm5le at telia.com (SM5LE)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 23:29:48 +0100
Subject: [Moon] Any I have forgot to send QSL for 1296 EME ?
Message-ID: <90631004AB264783A27C1CB76981B02B@sven8aee87826d>

Pse let me  know if you want QSL (direct).

/Sven SM5LE
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From df6na at df6na.de  Mon Feb 23 17:21:38 2009
From: df6na at df6na.de (Rainer)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:21:38 +0100
Subject: [Moon] OT Diode needed
Message-ID: <49A2CD12.9070505@df6na.de>

Hello,

I need to find some 1N53 detector diodes. Other DO-36 detector diodes
maybe usable also. Please let me know if you know a source or have
some in a drawer.

tnx es vy 73, Rainer

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From oaxaca at oregoncoast.com  Tue Feb 24 16:47:42 2009
From: oaxaca at oregoncoast.com (TdM Labs)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:47:42 -0000
Subject: [Moon] QRT DN11
In-Reply-To: <20090221042021817.ICDG.8707.wememta101.odn.ne.jp@mta101.odn.ne.jp>
Message-ID: <6841861BA7264C4A9E7A5C3FD1E72679@S0031935242>


Aloha to all:

My log:   www.w7eme.org/uplog.html

I am qrt this lonely place DN11, in transit WY for 1st of month and a
better moon.

73 Jeremy w7eme



From g3ltf at btinternet.com  Thu Feb 26 15:28:16 2009
From: g3ltf at btinternet.com (peter blair)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:28:16 -0000
Subject: [Moon] 13cm QSO with SV3AAF
Message-ID: <0E308DBC198244FA9D3F0A8D3B50B550@D7BX6Z0J>

 I was very pleased to work Petros  SV3AAF on 13cm this afternoon. Signals were 559/549 and we also exchanged 44 on ssb. This is the first 13cm QSO SV/G.  I'm sure Petros will be able to work many of the gang on 13cm, its always nice to get a new station on the microwave bands.
 I still have the feed in tracking the moon so if anyone wants a 13cm test in the next few hours please email.  I shant be QRV again until March 10th.
 Peter G3LTF 
6m dish 250W 13cm
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From f1mpq at orange.fr  Thu Feb 26 18:30:00 2009
From: f1mpq at orange.fr (F1MPQ)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:30:00 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Moon] FT897D and BEKO HLV160/10
In-Reply-To: <0E308DBC198244FA9D3F0A8D3B50B550@D7BX6Z0J>
References: <0E308DBC198244FA9D3F0A8D3B50B550@D7BX6Z0J>
Message-ID: <9963149.4550.1235669400651.JavaMail.www@wwinf1b14>


Hello All,

Wo can help me ?

I have a new ft897d and I want to use it with my Beko HLV 160/10. I want to connect the FT897D via the PTT plug (in the rear of the amp) of the Beko. How to do with CAT or ACC plug ?

It was easy with the TR751E. I used the ALC int (AUX plug).

Thanks for help.

73's Bruno de F1MPQ
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From sm2cew at telia.com  Sat Feb 28 06:21:56 2009
From: sm2cew at telia.com (Peter Sundberg)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 05:21:56 +0000
Subject: [Moon] Dubus 2m CW EME Event
Message-ID: <20090228051826.259293113E@mail.allt1.se>

Hello,

It is time again for another fine Dubus 2m CW EME Event.

Times are:

1 March 0830-1130 GMT
1 March 1630-1930 GMT

Let the activity be as good as in February!

And let's hope that the present high speed solar wind (>600km/s) will not
create too much havoc in the ionosphere, resulting in violent Faraday spins. 

See you on 2m CW EME!

73 de Peter SM2CEW 






From oz1hne at post8.tele.dk  Sat Feb 28 10:10:09 2009
From: oz1hne at post8.tele.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F8rgen_Kristiansen?=)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 10:10:09 +0100
Subject: [Moon] QRV 144MHz DUBUS CW EME Event,
Message-ID: <002001c99984$5c771290$58ef3e50@privatqvfgt3vl>


Hi EME'ers,

I will be QRV this weekend in both parts of the 144MHz DUBUS CW EME event on sunday at 0830 - 1130 UTC.
and 1630 - 1930 UTC. Good luck to all and I hope to hear a lot of signals on the band.

If any stations would like to try a sked with me during the comming days, please drop me a mail.

Best 73, OZ1HNE Jorgen.
8 x 8 elm. crossyagi's H / V and 8877. 
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From yu7xl at nadlanu.com  Sat Feb 28 12:58:30 2009
From: yu7xl at nadlanu.com (Slobodan Bukvic)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:58:30 +0100
Subject: [Moon] Oblong antennas for 1296 MHz
References: <002001c99984$5c771290$58ef3e50@privatqvfgt3vl>
Message-ID: <004001c9999b$df9f00d0$0301a8c0@BOBAN>

http://www.qslnet.de/member/yu7xl/oblong_models_1296.htm

73, Boban, YU7XL


From frankddr at tele2.it  Sat Feb 28 13:12:00 2009
From: frankddr at tele2.it (Francesco)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:12:00 +0100
Subject: [Moon] R:  Dubus 2m CW EME Event
In-Reply-To: <20090228051826.259293113E@mail.allt1.se>
Message-ID: <MDEPJGHECOMDHAOJMFMAKEHICAAA.frankddr@tele2.it>

Hello Peter and all,
i'll be active about full time during both windows, of  Dubus 2m CW eme
event.
I wish to hear many stations, like on last time.
Good luck and see you all tomorrow.

Francesco,IK2DDR

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info
[mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info]Per conto di Peter Sundberg
Inviato: sabato 28 febbraio 2009 6.22
A: moon at moonbounce.info
Cc: k5qe at sabinenet.com
Oggetto: [Moon] Dubus 2m CW EME Event


Hello,

It is time again for another fine Dubus 2m CW EME Event.

Times are:

1 March 0830-1130 GMT
1 March 1630-1930 GMT

Let the activity be as good as in February!

And let's hope that the present high speed solar wind (>600km/s) will not
create too much havoc in the ionosphere, resulting in violent Faraday spins.

See you on 2m CW EME!

73 de Peter SM2CEW





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From f6dro at wanadoo.fr  Sat Feb 28 13:30:21 2009
From: f6dro at wanadoo.fr (f6dro)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:30:21 +0100
Subject: [Moon] R:  Dubus 2m CW EME Event
References: <MDEPJGHECOMDHAOJMFMAKEHICAAA.frankddr@tele2.it>
Message-ID: <002301c999a0$52c4b510$0400000a@f6dro4py09fun6>

Hello ,

I'll try to be there , I only hope WX will not be like today , antennas tied 
down , too much wind

73
Dom/F6DRO 




From kc3re at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 28 16:55:26 2009
From: kc3re at yahoo.com (Cristofori Concerts)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:55:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Moon] sked to test developing 144 mHz rover
Message-ID: <577529.77954.qm@web51302.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


Would any large-to-medium 144 mHz CW station be free for a test sked, 1 March, on my moonrise from FM18dp, 1350 UTC? I now have 2 K1FO 15-element yagis mounted on the rover (see picture on QRZ.com-type in KC3RE,) 375W.  In about a month I hope to have the winch installed to provide elevation of the entire system.

Many thanks for anyone who might have the time for a test sked.

73,

Martin, KC3RE



      


From kc3re at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 28 17:31:47 2009
From: kc3re at yahoo.com (Cristofori Concerts)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:31:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Moon] 144 mHz 6test sked from rover
Message-ID: <143783.41974.qm@web51308.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


Apologies if this is a duplication-the first try didn't come through yet...

Would any large-to-medium 144 mHz CW station be free for a test sked, 1 March,
on my moonrise from FM18dp, 1350 UTC? I now have 2 K1FO 15-element
yagis mounted on the rover (see picture on QRZ.com-type in KC3RE,)
375W.  In about a month I hope to have the winch installed to provide
elevation of the entire system.

Many thanks for anyone who might have the time for a test sked.

73,

Martin, KC3RE



      


From ok1tehlist at seznam.cz  Sat Feb 28 17:53:23 2009
From: ok1tehlist at seznam.cz (=?us-ascii?Q?OK1TEH=20Petrzilka?=)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:53:23 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Moon] List of EME records
In-Reply-To: <MDEPJGHECOMDHAOJMFMAKEHICAAA.frankddr@tele2.it>
Message-ID: <18328.26806-5493-2073826777-1235840003@seznam.cz>

Hi all
I updated World EME records list above 50MHz however I can't
find any info about the longest contacts on 222 + 903 MHz.
Can anybody help me to fill up white spaces?

> http://www.ok2kkw.com/dxrecords.htm

tnx & 73 
Matej, OK1TEH

PS another topic: I'm also looking for any info about MS tests on 23cm.
If you know anything about it please let me know.


From kc3re at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 28 19:19:58 2009
From: kc3re at yahoo.com (Cristofori Concerts)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 10:19:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Moon] test, please excuse
Message-ID: <134856.17993.qm@web51304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>






      


From valter_dls at yahoo.it  Sat Feb 28 20:26:37 2009
From: valter_dls at yahoo.it (valter dolso)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:26:37 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Moon] CW DUBUS EVENT 2 METERS 1 march
Message-ID: <522169.24394.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Hello EME friend

I will be qrv? in the event:

First slot? from my moonrise? abt 20 degrees until the end

Second slot? from 16:30z to hour to go to qrl !!!!?? abt? 18:00 z

I will testing linrad but with little BW abt 6khz? 144 to 28 conv to a ts 950s IF

Hope a?lot of old and new friends on the CW band? 144040? to 144060

Good luck to everyone and hope conditions like on february event

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? vy 73 Valter? IK1FJI?? 



4x12 2.84 wl abt 19dbd ? GU78b? atf 33143? 24db @ 0.3NF

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From la9nea at online.no  Sat Feb 28 21:25:13 2009
From: la9nea at online.no (Viggo Magnus LA9NEA)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:25:13 +0100
Subject: [Moon] 1296 eme , activity report
Message-ID: <F6B8EB34CB8E46DA9A487B72E241629B@LA9NEA>

Hello All EME operators.

Worked this fine  1296 eme strations to day:

PA3FXB    JT65  ooo  best - 23  ( solid tree block at my site during qso)

HB9BBD  CW  579/579
K2DH       CW 569/569
SM2CEW CW 569/579

RD3DA   JT65  ooo best - 8 dB
G4CBW  JT65  ooo best -14 dB  ( new)


Plan to be qrv  to morrow 1th march, run cq call 1296015 in cw mode.

73 Viggo  LA9NEA





LA9NEA 23 cm EME set up:
Icom 756 pro II
TR1296H trv Kuhne
6 x 7289 ring PA ,500 watt,
MKU 13200B(spare PA) 250 watt SSPA,
5.3 meter dish,
VE4MA Feed
1.stage preamp.Cavity NE32484 0.28 dB
2.stage Kuhne  MGF 4953A 0.4 dB
JO59dx
Autotracking by W2DRZ,
VK3UM tracking at screen.
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From jbattin at msn.com  Sat Feb 28 21:49:26 2009
From: jbattin at msn.com (john battin)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:49:26 -0600
Subject: [Moon] DUBUS    K9DX
Message-ID: <BLU104-W447E821A10A1E9008DC65CABAB0@phx.gbl>


I EXPECT TO BE QRV TOMORROW.  HPE TO CU 

 

JOHN K9DX
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From ingolf.fhz at gmail.com  Sat Feb 28 23:04:57 2009
From: ingolf.fhz at gmail.com (Ingolf, SM6FHZ)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:04:57 +0100
Subject: [Moon] 1296 MHz EME SM6FHZ
Message-ID: <d453f9420902281404v7e4aaf0doa6e051137e1a2b54@mail.gmail.com>

Dear 23 cm mounbouncers.

I plan to be on the moon tomorrow (Sunday March 1st) from 12Z to 16Z testing
echos and calling CQ on CW, if all goes well. I will be just above 1296.020
MHz.

For the last 7 weeks I have been working on the 23 cm PA, the TR-sequencing
and the broken pre-amps.

A few practical improvements to the PA as well as formatting spare tubes,
spotting and exchanging a bad reed relay in the TR-sequencing and new HEMT's
in the pre-amps. I hope it all will work the way I plan. Some work to get it
all in place at the station before I can get on the moon.

Hope to CU all.

73 / Ingolf, SM6FHZ

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