From f2tu.philippe at orange.fr Thu Oct 2 22:20:54 2008 From: f2tu.philippe at orange.fr (F2TU Philippe) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 22:20:54 +0200 Subject: [Moon] Draw graphic for moon visibility Message-ID: <48E52D26.7000404@orange.fr> Hello, Because a bug, my update tool to create graphics for visibility window of the moon. Directly at http://f2tu.pagesperso-orange.fr/Doc/Sky_Windows.htm But the version for southern hemisphere also is not over. For these southern hemisphere, is possible enter the Latitude normally and declination to read upside down on the Graph 1: +30? = -30?. I have not yet found a way to do this with Excel, hi. I also create a web page database to put the windows pictures that I receive. Here: http://www.qsl.net/f2tu/Windows/ 73 -- Philippe PIERRAT - F2TU http://F2TU.perso.orange.fr From la9nea at online.no Sat Oct 4 11:32:22 2008 From: la9nea at online.no (Viggo Magnus LA9NEA) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 11:32:22 +0200 Subject: [Moon] Dimensions scalar ring VE4MA feed. Message-ID: <84DA5FFE636243B9840413828F6DB49D@yourd2e589c81c> Mooners! I need to make an new scalar ring to my '' orginal VE4MA'' feed (23 cm Band). Have any of you tried '' different'' rings than the ''orginal scalar-ring''?? dimensions/ chapperal?? With better result than the orginal ring?? Happy to know something before I make the new ring....... pse mail me direct 73 de Viggo LA9NEA . LA9NEA 23 cm EME set up: Icom 756 pro II TR1296H trv Kuhne 6 x 7289 ring PA ,500 watt, MKU 13200B(spare PA) 250 watt SSPA, 5.3 meter dish, VE4MA Feed 1.stage preamp.Cavity NE32484 0.28 dB 2.stage Kuhne MGF 4953A 0.4 dB JO59dx Autotracking by W2DRZ, VK3UM tracking at screen. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081004/5f900c3f/attachment.htm From g3ltf at btinternet.com Sat Oct 4 16:36:22 2008 From: g3ltf at btinternet.com (peter blair) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 15:36:22 +0100 Subject: [Moon] Dimensions scalar ring VE4MA feed. References: <84DA5FFE636243B9840413828F6DB49D@yourd2e589c81c> Message-ID: <001e01c9262e$92fe9a00$0200a8c0@D7BX6Z0J> Hi Viggo, look here http://www.w1ghz.org/antbook/conf/high_efficiency_prime_feeds.pdf in the W1GHZ on-line antenna book. The Super VE4MA choke which is described there, when used on my 0.375f/d dish in place of the standard choke, gave me an extra 0.5dB G/T (maybe a little more) BUT......You will need to check circularity and possibly re tune the screw polariser. I certainly needed to do so . .. You might also want to look at http://www.w1ghz.org/antbook/conf/VE4MA_Chaparral_septum_feeds.pdf where Paul W1GHZ discusses the interaction between choke and polariser. All of these papers are in the W1GHZ on-line antenna book but you do need to click on "Conference Papers" at the bottom of the index to find them. GL 73 Peter, G3LTF ----- Original Message ----- From: Viggo Magnus LA9NEA To: Moon Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: [Moon] Dimensions scalar ring VE4MA feed. Mooners! I need to make an new scalar ring to my '' orginal VE4MA'' feed (23 cm Band). Have any of you tried '' different'' rings than the ''orginal scalar-ring''?? dimensions/ chapperal?? With better result than the orginal ring?? Happy to know something before I make the new ring....... pse mail me direct 73 de Viggo LA9NEA . LA9NEA 23 cm EME set up: Icom 756 pro II TR1296H trv Kuhne 6 x 7289 ring PA ,500 watt, MKU 13200B(spare PA) 250 watt SSPA, 5.3 meter dish, VE4MA Feed 1.stage preamp.Cavity NE32484 0.28 dB 2.stage Kuhne MGF 4953A 0.4 dB JO59dx Autotracking by W2DRZ, VK3UM tracking at screen. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Moon mailing list Moon at moonbounce.info http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon Please enter/update your standings: http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Congratulations to the winners and DL1YMK/CX & EV5M expeditions that complemented the event: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- SV1BTR on Multiband, RU1AA on 2m, OZ4MM on 70cm, OK1DFC on 23cm, ES5PC on 13cm, W5LUA on 9cm, OK1KIR on 6cm and 3cm and 1.5cm. This is the first ever contest entry on 24 GHz! Good activity on 3.4 GHz this time! QRP winners are I3EVK and PA3CWN on 2m, DL1YMK on 70cm and IW2FZR on 23cm. A special award for the best 23cm EME expedition of the contest goes to DL1YMK/CX! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 73, Petros sv3aaf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081011/e8031c5b/attachment.htm From sm2cew at telia.com Sat Oct 11 19:22:30 2008 From: sm2cew at telia.com (Peter Sundberg) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:22:30 +0000 Subject: [Moon] SM2CEW QRV 13cm tonight Message-ID: <20081011172237.6D2691A2C0@mail.allt1.se> I am QRV on 13cm right now, and for a few hours. Echoes are fine, I am TX/RX on 2320.100, also listening on 2304. I have a sked with DL1YMK at 18.30 GMT on 2320.100. Will listen for random callers after the sked, hoping that someone else is also QRV on 13cm tonight. After this session I will put the 432/1296 feed back in the dish. 73 de Peter SM2CEW www.sm2cew.com From ok1dfc at seznam.cz Sat Oct 11 20:51:20 2008 From: ok1dfc at seznam.cz (OK1DFC) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:51:20 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Moon] 1296 OK3RM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <808.1676-8521-1421968609-1223751080@seznam.cz> Hello EME Gang, I am glad to let you know, that last night I worked first time Zdenek OK3RM from his new EME 1296 MHz QTH. Zdenek is preparing all to be QRV during ARRL EME contest. Please pay attention to his call. Worked him 539/539 friday night, but due to some problems he will be fully QRV next weekend. His system giving 14dB Sun noise and all looks very promising. I am still traveling and not sure if QRV during contest. On Friday before I am leaving USA and on Monday morning I have fly to Spain for other week. GL all and 73 Zdenek - OK1DFC www.ok1dfc.com QRV 144 - 1296 MHz EME QRO and 10m DISH WAC 432 - 1296 MHz From k7xq at elite.net Sun Oct 12 10:02:55 2008 From: k7xq at elite.net (K7XQ) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 01:02:55 -0700 Subject: [Moon] K7XQ QRV 1296 Oct 13 Message-ID: <000101c92c40$f2c5d3f0$6801a8c0@k7xq> Hello All, 1296 feed is back in. Wrked K1RQG CW and VK2JDS for a initial on JT this morning. I will be QRV 1296 Oct 13 on moonrise starting @ 0130 UTC. K7XQ Jeff Atwater,CA. Grid: CM97qi 144 MHz: 4 X M2 2MPX20 XPOL 20 dBd 1.5 kw single GS35b 432 MHz: 8 X M2 9 W.L. XPOL 27 dBd under construction ,single GS-35b 1296 MHz: 3 meter dish 27 dBd 350 watts single water cooled GS-15 2304 MHz: 3 meter dish 32 dBd 180 watts SS Spectrain Amplifier 10368 MHz: 3 meter dish 45 dBd 20 watts Varian TWTA Amplifier K7XQ Webpage: http://www.elite.net/~k7xq/k7xq.html From oz6ol at mail.dk Sun Oct 12 16:42:30 2008 From: oz6ol at mail.dk (Hans.J.Oldenborg) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:42:30 +0200 Subject: [Moon] 3.4 GHzEME QRV OZ6OL Message-ID: Hello . I will be qrv on 3400.100 testing echoes from abt. 16:00 UTC when the moon rises over the appletree. will be on for abt. 6 hours. hope to work you. 5m dish 40 watts . 73 Hans OZ6OL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081012/2b12d5eb/attachment.htm From k7xq at elite.net Mon Oct 13 05:33:15 2008 From: k7xq at elite.net (K7XQ) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:33:15 -0700 Subject: [Moon] SDR-1000 for EME question Message-ID: <000b01c92ce4$72ba2fe0$6601a8c0@K7XQH> Hello All, I am considering finding and trying a SDR-1000 with the 144 MHz option for EME. The SDR-5000 would be better but out of my current price range at this time. Does anyone who uses this radio have any opinions on its pros and cons ? What's its bandwidth on RX on the spectrum and its "signal to noise" capability ? I heard you can record the entire sessions of the receive and play them back to analyze later ? K7XQ Jeff From ok1dfc at seznam.cz Mon Oct 13 10:30:47 2008 From: ok1dfc at seznam.cz (OK1DFC) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:30:47 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Moon] EME 1296 In-Reply-To: <48F2F8C8.09A9.0069.0@clneuro.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <801.1670-10996-217645486-1223886647@seznam.cz> Hello EME gang, After long time I spend couple hours via Moon in past weekend. Unfortunately I will be during first leg of ARRL EME contest traveling in USA and only first couple hours on Saturday I will giving points to attendants, because on Saturday at 11 local time I have a fly to NY. I am expecting to be QRV in second leg, but it will be question if WX permit, last year we had windstorm. So I worked: 10/10/2008 OK3RM 539/539 #221 ? Zdenek will be QRV in ARRL contest more here http://www.vhf.cz/informace-oznameni/2007/ok3rm/rm.htm http://www.vhf.cz/informace-oznameni/2007/ok3rm/rm.htm, RW6AG O/RO - JT65 #47 -13dB, SV3AAF 53/56 SSB, G4RGK 539/559, SV1OE 539/559, I5MPK 539/579, RW6AG 539/549 #222, PY2SB O/RO JT65 #48JT, PY5BS 52/55 SSB #223, RW6AG 55/53 SSB, 11/10/2008 UT5JCW 559/589, RD3DA O/RO JT65, UT3LL O/RO JT65, LZ1DX O/RO JT65 #57 DXCC #49JT and first OK-LZ QSO, G4RGK O/RO JT65, M0DTS O/RO JT65, Ned LZ1DX has 4x35el Yagi and 120SSPA, also LNA 0,36dB. Worked him JT ?24 - -31dB, very variable signal. 12/10/2008 SM0FOB O/RO JT65 #50JT, SM0FOB O/RO CW #224, UT5JCW 559/589, G4CCH 589/599 SM0FOB newcomer, in cooperation with Sven SM5LE he put his call via Moon with 1,8m dish and 80W SSPA. Signal was great readable and peeked 449. Thanks Kjell and Sven for great job. Zdenek - OK1DFC www.ok1dfc.com QRV 144 - 1296 MHz EME QRO and 10m DISH WAC 432 - 1296 MHz From ibnkarim at bigpond.net.au Mon Oct 13 11:10:03 2008 From: ibnkarim at bigpond.net.au (Charlie Kahwagi) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:10:03 +1100 Subject: [Moon] Moon Digest, Vol 24, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Peter, Do you have 2300-2302 Rx capabilities? 73 Charlie VK3NX -----Original Message----- From: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info] On Behalf Of moon-request at moonbounce.info Sent: Sunday, 12 October 2008 9:00 PM To: moon at moonbounce.info Subject: Moon Digest, Vol 24, Issue 7 Send Moon mailing list submissions to moon at moonbounce.info To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to moon-request at moonbounce.info You can reach the person managing the list at moon-owner at moonbounce.info When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Moon digest..." Today's Topics: 1. LA9NEA qrv 23 cm EME saturday 11 oct. (Viggo Magnus LA9NEA) 2. SM2CEW QRV 13cm tonight (Peter Sundberg) 3. 1296 OK3RM (OK1DFC) 4. K7XQ QRV 1296 Oct 13 (K7XQ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:21:03 +0200 From: "Viggo Magnus LA9NEA" Subject: [Moon] LA9NEA qrv 23 cm EME saturday 11 oct. To: "Moon" Cc: moon net Message-ID: <97AAC8A6E2C34442A50ED2287027B0DD at yourd2e589c81c> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello . Plan to be qrv to nite from approx 1900z. Cq call nr. 1296.015 The new ''Super VE4MA scalar ring'' is now installed, hopefully it ''works''. Thanks many reply, and most of you recomended the ''Super scalar ring''. Tested sun-noise to day and read approx 14.2 dB 73 Viggo LA9NEA LA9NEA 23 cm EME set up: Icom 756 pro II TR1296H trv Kuhne 6 x 7289 ring PA ,500 watt, MKU 13200B(spare PA) 250 watt SSPA, 5.3 meter dish, VE4MA Feed 1.stage preamp.Cavity NE32484 0.28 dB 2.stage Kuhne MGF 4953A 0.4 dB JO59dx Autotracking by W2DRZ, VK3UM tracking at screen. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081011/e8031c5b/atta chment.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:22:30 +0000 From: Peter Sundberg Subject: [Moon] SM2CEW QRV 13cm tonight To: moon at moonbounce.info Message-ID: <20081011172237.6D2691A2C0 at mail.allt1.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am QRV on 13cm right now, and for a few hours. Echoes are fine, I am TX/RX on 2320.100, also listening on 2304. I have a sked with DL1YMK at 18.30 GMT on 2320.100. Will listen for random callers after the sked, hoping that someone else is also QRV on 13cm tonight. After this session I will put the 432/1296 feed back in the dish. 73 de Peter SM2CEW www.sm2cew.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:51:20 +0200 (CEST) From: OK1DFC Subject: [Moon] 1296 OK3RM To: K1rqg at aol.com,Allen Katz, moonbounceboard , moon at moonbounce.info Message-ID: <808.1676-8521-1421968609-1223751080 at seznam.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello EME Gang, I am glad to let you know, that last night I worked first time Zdenek OK3RM from his new EME 1296 MHz QTH. Zdenek is preparing all to be QRV during ARRL EME contest. Please pay attention to his call. Worked him 539/539 friday night, but due to some problems he will be fully QRV next weekend. His system giving 14dB Sun noise and all looks very promising. I am still traveling and not sure if QRV during contest. On Friday before I am leaving USA and on Monday morning I have fly to Spain for other week. GL all and 73 Zdenek - OK1DFC www.ok1dfc.com QRV 144 - 1296 MHz EME QRO and 10m DISH WAC 432 - 1296 MHz ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 01:02:55 -0700 From: "K7XQ" Subject: [Moon] K7XQ QRV 1296 Oct 13 To: Message-ID: <000101c92c40$f2c5d3f0$6801a8c0 at k7xq> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello All, 1296 feed is back in. Wrked K1RQG CW and VK2JDS for a initial on JT this morning. I will be QRV 1296 Oct 13 on moonrise starting @ 0130 UTC. K7XQ Jeff Atwater,CA. Grid: CM97qi 144 MHz: 4 X M2 2MPX20 XPOL 20 dBd 1.5 kw single GS35b 432 MHz: 8 X M2 9 W.L. XPOL 27 dBd under construction ,single GS-35b 1296 MHz: 3 meter dish 27 dBd 350 watts single water cooled GS-15 2304 MHz: 3 meter dish 32 dBd 180 watts SS Spectrain Amplifier 10368 MHz: 3 meter dish 45 dBd 20 watts Varian TWTA Amplifier K7XQ Webpage: http://www.elite.net/~k7xq/k7xq.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Moon mailing list Moon at moonbounce.info http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon End of Moon Digest, Vol 24, Issue 7 *********************************** From stepsisters at comcast.net Mon Oct 13 15:44:37 2008 From: stepsisters at comcast.net (Mike's JdJ) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:44:37 -0400 Subject: [Moon] SDR-1000 for EME question In-Reply-To: <000b01c92ce4$72ba2fe0$6601a8c0@K7XQH> References: <000b01c92ce4$72ba2fe0$6601a8c0@K7XQH> Message-ID: <48F350C5.4030003@comcast.net> Yes Jeff, the PowerSDR software does record all of the bandwidth of the sound card, letting you playback and tune the receiver over the segment. The sound card is most critical. You should use a full-duplex sound card like the Edirol FA-66 or M-Audio Delta 44. The sound card determines your sensitivity and signal to noise ratio. The Delta 44 will give you a 48 KHz bandwidth and the FA-66 has up to 96 KHz bandwidth. Some PCs will have a ground loop issue. A pair of good quality audio isolation transformers on the I and Q lines takes care of it. Here is the Flex-Radio SDR-1000 page: < http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseCategory15.aspx > You could also use the HPSDR Ozy/Janus combo to replace your sound card: < http://hpsdr.org/ > The SDR-1000 I & Q input and output jacks are miniature phone and may cause you intermittent connections. Some folks have even soldered the cables directly to the circuit boards. I have no problems as long as the cables are not tugged. The original oscillator was ambient and drifted with warm-up. A "PTC" factory option has a thermistor attached to the oscillator. The thermistor is powered from the 12 volt line. In transmit this sags a fraction of a volt and may drift 20-50 hertz. Some folks have installed an 8 volt regulator and eliminated that problem. If you are not running the 100 Watt power amplifier, you may not have the sag. < http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50158.aspx > The SDR-1000 can also accept an external oscillator, if you have one with good stability and low phase noise. The fan is a little noisy, but the SDR-1000 doesn't have to sit on the operating desk. Or you can open up the holes or use a quieter fan. If you buy a SDR-1000 with the 100 Watt PA and tuner, you may be able to re-sell the modules. Here is the Flex-Radio page for the 144MHz option: < http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50238.aspx?Keywords=sdr-1000+specifications > This option is designed for use with transverters, not directly connected to an antenna. The PowerSDR software runs best on Windows XP. The new version of the software will probably be announced at Dayton. The new version is independent and can be run on Windows, Apple, Linux. It is a complete rewrite and is a paradigm shift. The software is open source and is key to the success of Flex-Radio Systems. I remember one time a bug being announced on the e-mail reflector and the new version was available for download in less than two hours! This is not typical, but FRS is very responsive to the users. It is not just the Flex-Radio employees, but a collaboration of some great minds around the world. It is exciting to keep seeing the improvements in new versions. I was going to get a knob to use with the SDR-1000, but after I started using it, I have no desire to have an additional knob. See KM0T's microwave web page on the SDR-1000: < http://www.km0t.com/pages/sdr.htm > You might also be interested in the uwsdr project: < http://uwsdr.berlios.de/ > 73, Mike K7XQ wrote: > Hello All, > I am considering finding and trying a SDR-1000 with the 144 MHz option > for EME. > The SDR-5000 would be better but out of my current price range at this > time. > > Does anyone who uses this radio have any opinions on its pros and cons > ? > > What's its bandwidth on RX on the spectrum and its "signal to noise" > capability ? > > I heard you can record the entire sessions of the receive and play them > back > to analyze later ? > > > K7XQ Jeff > From jh1krc at syd.odn.ne.jp Mon Oct 13 18:33:17 2008 From: jh1krc at syd.odn.ne.jp (M. Watanabe) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:33:17 +0900 Subject: [Moon] KDES 8J1AXA, the recent process References: <801.1670-10996-217645486-1223886647@seznam.cz> Message-ID: <00ad01c92d51$65a0d5d0$0200a8c0@yourm9xvc9gwtf> KDES 8J1AXA succeeded to receive JH0MHE's CQ on 144MHz, about 08Z, Saturday, October 11. At this time 8J1AXA only used the second stage LNA in the cockpit behind the 18m dish. The first stage LNA which should be installed at the top of the antenna was delayed to be prepared. The coax loss between the cockpit and the shack about 70m away could count ca. 8dB or so. The signal off the moon was stable all the time. Listen to the files: echo-1 is better to detect the moon echo at 1000Hz while CQ call of JH0MHE's strong ground wave at 600Hz, from250km away. The moon elevation was about 25 deg. and the ground signal was heard directly from the back of the 18m dish. http://briefcase.yahoo.co.jp/bc/konygsh/lst?.dir=/? KDES members hopes and expect to have the Telecom inspection by the end of October for the issue of high power transmission license on 144 and 432MHz. And the operation on the higher frequencies would be expected to follow early next year, which requests to submit another documentation and needs another Telecom inspection for licensing the item. Surely it takes time and consumes a lot of our efforts and money. Can someone criticize from abroad this silly system of Japanese amateurs licensing? Otherwise they would not like to change it. Mike JH1KRC From sm5le at telia.com Mon Oct 13 18:36:02 2008 From: sm5le at telia.com (SM5LE) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:36:02 +0200 Subject: [Moon] great things did happend on 1296 Message-ID: <004501c92d51$c81eea80$2101a8c0@sven8aee87826d> Hi The SM0FOB and SM5LE team did finaly QSO?s on 1296 MHz. CW and JT : G4CCH JT, OK1DFC CW/JT and ES5PC JT. The eqipm.: 1.8 m dish ! 75 W @ feed. Septum mesh feed. 750 gr only. Call: SM0FOB in JO99bd More here : http://web.telia.com/~u14901544/ and here : http://sm0fob.blogspot.com/ CU in ARRL 73 Sven SM5LE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081013/ac9377b7/attachment.htm From oz6ol at mail.dk Mon Oct 13 21:09:46 2008 From: oz6ol at mail.dk (Hans.J.Oldenborg) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:09:46 +0200 Subject: [Moon] Fw: 3.4GHz EME qso LX1DB-OZ6OL Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Hans.J.Oldenborg To: moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:06 PM Subject: 3.4GHz EME qso LX1DB-OZ6OL Just worked LX1DB on 3400.100 weather: rain and wind. The signal from LX1DB fb 559 CW...tnx Willi 73 OZ6OL Hans -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I use it > on tie-wraps (cable ties). > Hope you get better ideas from other hams. > AL > wa4ewv > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marko Tsekov" > To: "Moon-Net" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:43 AM > Subject: [Moon-net] fiberglass tubes and UV protection > > >> Hello, >> >> Is there anybody that can give any info or advice how to protect >> fiberglass tubes against UV radiation ? >> >> 73 de Marko LZ2US >> _______________________________________________ >> Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are at >> http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html >> >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are at > http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html > > > > From g3ltf at btinternet.com Tue Oct 14 21:59:15 2008 From: g3ltf at btinternet.com (peter blair) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:59:15 +0100 Subject: [Moon] good 9cm echoes at G3LTF Message-ID: <003a01c92e37$56744830$0300a8c0@D7BX6Z0J> I am QRV right now on 3400.100 with excellent echoes. 73 Peter G3LTF 6m dish 25W at feed -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Look at: http://www.darkside.cz/eme.php 73 Matej, OK1TEH From pa3cwn at tele2.nl Wed Oct 15 11:30:57 2008 From: pa3cwn at tele2.nl (Oene) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:30:57 +0200 Subject: [Moon] PA3CWN QRV in ARRL Message-ID: <48F5B851.7020002@tele2.nl> Hello All, This weekend I will be qrv as much as possible in the ARRL EME contest. I will be in CW only on 144Mhz and due circumstances this will presumably be the only leg I participate in. I hope for good activity and wish all GL in the contest ! Vy 73 Oene PA3CWN From oaxaca at oregoncoast.com Wed Oct 15 18:30:17 2008 From: oaxaca at oregoncoast.com (Jeremy Alexander) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:30:17 -0700 Subject: [Moon] w7eme qrv BL02 144 es 222 Message-ID: Aloha to all: We are traveling to our Kauai home this day. I have not been there for about 8 mounths and don't know state of my qrp station. Hope to be qrv for next weekend ARRL contest leg on 144 and 222 in some QRP fashion. I will be looking to complete with the big guns on CW then later on JT. Please listen for me and a very big GL to all participants! A single 8 wl Yagi and full QRO on each 144 and 222 Mcs.... Jeremy w7eme/kh6 BL02bf W7EME/Portables Regular ops from: CN85, BL02, DN14 and CP28.... offering 2m eme From dl7uda at versanet.de Wed Oct 15 18:40:27 2008 From: dl7uda at versanet.de (DL7UDA) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:40:27 +0200 Subject: [Moon] DL7UDA qrv this WE Message-ID: <48F61CFB.4060605@versanet.de> I hope to work 2m and 70cm in CW and JT65 some EME QSOs. QRV 2nd moonpass only. No Internet at EME QTH! 2m: 2x 10el. DK7ZB IC275H GS35B 70cm: 4x 21 el DK7ZB IC475H GS23B (LZ2US) gl to all! 73 Dietmar DL7UDA From sm5le at telia.com Wed Oct 15 19:17:51 2008 From: sm5le at telia.com (SM5LE) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:17:51 +0200 Subject: [Moon] ... the Multiple-Reflection ... Message-ID: Hi all I have put the Kindals report : "Maximization of a Paraboloidal Reflector Fed by a Dipole-Disk Antenna with Ring by Using the Multiple-Reflection" on my website (with permission). It is very much math?s, do not ask me about that, hi. Perhaps this might be of interest for small dish owners. http://web.telia.com/~u14901544/ /Sven SM5LE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081015/98397357/attachment.htm From rein0zn at ix.netcom.com Wed Oct 15 19:18:05 2008 From: rein0zn at ix.netcom.com (rein0zn at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:18:05 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Moon] 432 and Above NL for Oct(2) 2008 Message-ID: <19938717.1224091085745.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hello All, The 432 MHz and Above EME Newsletter for Oct(2) 2008 by K2UYH is at: http://www.nitehawk.com/rasmit/em70cm.html Enjoy! Gd Luck in contest. 73 Rein PA0ZN From oz6ol at mail.dk Thu Oct 16 07:26:11 2008 From: oz6ol at mail.dk (Hans.J.Oldenborg) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:26:11 +0200 Subject: [Moon] ve6ta-oz6ol Message-ID: This morning a nice cw qso with VE6TA. first VE-OZ on 3.4GHz TNX QSO Grant...............................73 de OZ6OL Hans -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081016/0e23e4bf/attachment.htm From sm5le at telia.com Thu Oct 16 10:59:30 2008 From: sm5le at telia.com (SM5LE) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:59:30 +0200 Subject: [Moon] SM5LE QRV ARRL weeknd on 1296 MHz Message-ID: <9DDD22977AA948F9BDF1F484397D98E2@sven8aee87826d> Hi SM5LE QRV ARRL contest only 1296 MHz but CW and JT. I am mostly on 010 CW and 065 JT. 73 and CU soon via moon /Sven ----------------------------------------------------------- SM5LE in JO99bd 2.2 meter mesh dish F/D=0.34 Septum feed OK1DFC. With choke ring. 500 W @ feed , CW ( 300W JT65 ) Spid RAS rotator with MoonSked software by GM4JJJ Rig : TS-2000X (with 1296 MHz module). LNA : NE32684A cavity NF ~0.3 dB 7.5 dB sun-noise CW SSB JT65 1296 MHz only SM5LE HomePage at : http://web.telia.com/~u14901544/ Pictures : http://web.telia.com/~u14901546/home_page_no_3.htm ----------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081016/a5738094/attachment.htm From franco.cominelli at sidergarda.com Thu Oct 16 11:47:26 2008 From: franco.cominelli at sidergarda.com (Cominelli Franco) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:47:26 +0200 Subject: [Moon] IK2DDR QRV on 2m CW during ARRL Message-ID: <205208A153FD8F46A23A1AC5F3DCB5AA8F046B@server01.SIDERGARDA.local> Hello all, i'll be active during this ARRL leg, as much as other commitment permits. I wish to work all of you, old and new stations. As usual i should be active only on CW, answering to the other CQs on the beginning and calling CQ, in somewhere later. My suggestion for those guys that stop their calls, after 2-3 QRZ-QRZ. Please do not stop, but persist untill that condition improves. I guess that the best qso, is when there is some difficult. Good luck at all, independently by the band or the mode that you prefer. 73' Francesco,IK2DDR 4X19LLY MGF1801+Norton WSE CONVERTERS +LINRAD and 8877 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081016/6be97bcb/attachment.htm From dl5mae at yahoo.de Thu Oct 16 14:47:49 2008 From: dl5mae at yahoo.de (Wolfgang Schlaffer) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:47:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Moon] ARRL EME Contest Message-ID: <152392.48476.qm@web23701.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Hi All, ? please put me on the?? NOT-QRV-LIST? for the?? ARRL-INTERNET-EME-CONTEST! ? TNX es vy 73 de DL5MAE Wolfgang ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081016/ccdb7da2/attachment.htm From joe at Princeton.EDU Thu Oct 16 15:26:33 2008 From: joe at Princeton.EDU (Joe Taylor) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:26:33 -0400 Subject: [Moon] ARRL EME Contest In-Reply-To: <48F64DD7.8030403@ieee.org> References: <3112.206.245.153.163.1223855144.squirrel@webmail.ezlinx.net> <48F29639.1060402@ieee.org> <48F34C68.6000206@ieee.org> <48F3960B.1080004@princeton.edu> <49ac01f90810131154g26ba7f19y3facf3c44401b851@mail.gmail.com> <48F4A0BA.3010903@princeton.edu> <48F5F706.4060608@princeton.edu> <48F64DD7.8030403@ieee.org> Message-ID: <48F74109.8010506@princeton.edu> The K1JT Multi-Op station will be active on 144, 432, and 1296 during the second weekend of the 2008 ARRL International EME Competition. We aim to make as many QSOs as possible in both CW and JT65 modes. We will switch between modes as the activity levels suggest. Particular operating practices: 144 MHz: When calling CQ in JT65, we are likely to be somewhere around 144.118 +/- QRM. During our JA window we will work with a 40 kHz split -- for example, if you call CQ on 144.080, we will respond on 144.120, and vice-versa. We will switch to CW frequently, and we hope to work everyone we can copy on both modes. 432 MHz: By default we will operate in CW mode. On Saturday we call CQ in JT65B on 432.070 at 0730, 0830 and 0930 UTC; on Sunday at 0830, 0930 and 1030 UTC. We will call CQ on JT65B near the end of our JA/VK window. 1296 MHz: By default we will operate in CW mode. On Saturday we will call CQ using JT65C on 1296.070 at 0700, 0800 and 0900; on Sunday at 0800, 0900 and 1000. We will call CQ on JT65C near the end of our JA/VK window. Special suggestion to smaller stations: Don't forget to call CQ now and then, especially later in the weekend. You may be surprised at who will answer! Special suggestion to stations using real-time assistance: Don't forget that many stations -- including most of the larger ones -- will NOT be using the loggers. After a QSO, be sure to stay on frequency long enough to find possible tail-enders calling you. Good luck to all, and lots of fun in the contest! -- 73 from the K1JT contest team K1DS, K1JT, K2LNS, K2TXB, K2UYH, KC2TA, W2KV, N4HY From guenter.koellner at nsn.com Thu Oct 16 16:25:08 2008 From: guenter.koellner at nsn.com (Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich)) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:25:08 +0200 Subject: [Moon] ARRL EME Contest In-Reply-To: <48F74109.8010506@princeton.edu> References: <3112.206.245.153.163.1223855144.squirrel@webmail.ezlinx.net><48F29639.1060402@ieee.org><48F34C68.6000206@ieee.org> <48F3960B.1080004@princeton.edu><49ac01f90810131154g26ba7f19y3facf3c44401b851@mail.gmail.com><48F4A0BA.3010903@princeton.edu><48F5F706.4060608@princeton.edu> <48F64DD7.8030403@ieee.org> <48F74109.8010506@princeton.edu> Message-ID: Hello all, I absolutely agree with Joe in this statement, and I remember G3LTF having said something similar some time ago, too: > Special suggestion to smaller stations: Don't forget to call > CQ now and then, especially later in the weekend. You may > be surprised at who will answer! But let me add: >>> do so not at exactly the center of activity, e.g. 1296.010 but spread out, for example around or above .020. >>> even if you think the band is empty, it might be crowded or just difficulty to figure out your weak signal. Many stations meanwhile run waterfall software, which displays clearly every signal. 73, G?nter, DL4MEA PS: My QRV times later, just come back from re-checking my 0.3dB NF preamp. From KB8RQ at spasalon.com Thu Oct 16 18:53:19 2008 From: KB8RQ at spasalon.com (Gary Crabtree) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:53:19 -0400 Subject: [Moon] (no subject) Message-ID: Hello All Two Meter EME Gang During the ARRL EME contest I will be on same frequency as always 144.127 JT65B second. I will not be on any loggers during the contest. For JA stations please call me 40 KC below my frequency on 144.087. I will be monitoring that frequency and 144.127 during the JA window. Hope to work old and new stations. Good luck in the contest and have fun. That is what Ham radio is all about. KB8RQ, Gary 24X13 element horizontal 24X9 element vertical http://www.spasalon.com/kb8rq/ KB8RQ at SPASALON.COM kb8rq at Yahoo.com From gabercr at nc.rr.com Thu Oct 16 19:34:51 2008 From: gabercr at nc.rr.com (Gary Abercrombie) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:34:51 -0400 Subject: [Moon] N8CQ QRV 432Mhz EME contest Message-ID: <003201c92fb5$7f453d80$7e05a8c0@doble.com> I will be QRV for ARRL EME contest on 432Mhz with my portable 12 x 16el array (with polarity rotation) and 1.5KW (8938 PA). I built up new shorter phasing lines for the array (with K1FO's assistance) so possibly I picked up a few tenths on receive. Array will only be up this weekend so I hope to work a lot of new initials. If possible, I will be QRV this evening around 0300UTC for testing. 73, Gary N8CQ (FM05ot) North Carolina -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The moon in middle of night will be the challenge ! Caffeine may not be enough to prevent falling asleep at the key but will try ! K7XQ Jeff Atwater,CA. Grid: CM97qi 144 MHz: 4 X M2 2MPX20 XPOL 20 dBd 1.5 kw single GS35b 432 MHz: 8 X M2 9 W.L. XPOL 26.3 dBd ( under construction ) single GS-35b 1296 MHz: 3 meter dish 27 dBd 350 watts single water cooled GS-15 2304 MHz: 3 meter dish 32 dBd 180 watts SS Spectrain Amplifier 10368 MHz: 3 meter dish 45 dBd 20 Watt Varian TWTA K7XQ Webpage: http://www.elite.net/~k7xq/k7xq.html From g3ltf at btinternet.com Fri Oct 17 09:47:56 2008 From: g3ltf at btinternet.com (peter blair) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:47:56 +0100 Subject: [Moon] G3LTF operation in contest Message-ID: <004301c9302c$abf05b40$0200a8c0@D7BX6Z0J> I shall be active on 432 and 1296 CW/SSB this weekend but some poor planning means I shall not be around for moonrise on Saturday so the only VK/JA window will be Sunday and there the weather looks a bit stormy. Still hope to work a good few stations. I want to reiterate the calls to small stations to call CQ , preferably away from the QRM area of 1296.010. We medium level stations will find you. GL to all. 73 Peter G3LTF -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081017/bddb3770/attachment.htm From DL1YMK at aol.com Fri Oct 17 15:03:20 2008 From: DL1YMK at aol.com (DL1YMK at aol.com) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:03:20 EDT Subject: [Moon] QRV Activity weekend Message-ID: Hi all, although the WX seems to be somewhat uncooperative again (as usual in the nothern hemisphere in this time of the year....!), I will try to be on 70cm and 23cm for some time during the oncoming activity weekend. CU off the rock in CW, 73 de Michael, DL1YMK -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I will be looking for new callsigns on the band both on CW and JT65 Best 73 & GL to all Howard, G4CCH www.g4cch.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3734 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081017/09d3d899/attachment.bin From dfaessler at bluewin.ch Fri Oct 17 16:52:08 2008 From: dfaessler at bluewin.ch (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dominique_F=E4ssler_=28HB9BBD=29?=) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:52:08 +0200 Subject: [Moon] HB9BBD In-Reply-To: <93342154/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/88.104.113.118/10/17/08/14:36:14@mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com> Message-ID: <48C8D4A500BB6CCC@tr14.bluewin.ch> (added by postmaster@bluewin.ch) Hello all 23cm freaks I shall not be qrv this weekend due to a business trip to Kuwait. GL to all who have fun listening bounced signals off the moon! Clip your internet during the contest - it is by far more fun getting real QSO's into the log. 73 HB9BBD Dominique From bpaloma at telefonica.net Fri Oct 17 21:23:54 2008 From: bpaloma at telefonica.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Benjamin_Pi=F1ol?=) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:23:54 +0200 Subject: [Moon] Fw: ARRL Contest Message-ID: <001a01c9308d$e58b8da0$2201a8c0@ea3xu39b533e50> Hi all. * Today Pau (EA3BB), install your self, in 4 hours, the new portable system 4X13elemts H ( 3.25 WL by antenna) in QRG 144.141MHz Power 500W Operating only saturday in ARRL Contest by preparati?n EME C31 expedition 2009 144/432 MHz. Location JN01 400m asl, low noise area, 80 Kms from Barcelona city. * Also QRV saturday and Sunday, Contest EA3XU JN11ck QTH (Barcelona city) QRG noise city depent 144: 2x12 el H + 1kW+Preamp Kuhne 432: 2x21 el H, only 90W + Preamp SSB for Big stations 1296: 4X33 el H only 90W + Preamp SSB for Big stations 73s Good luck Benjamin EA3XU -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081017/463b7174/attachment.htm From k6pf at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 18 04:41:58 2008 From: k6pf at sbcglobal.net (Bob Kocisko) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:41:58 -0700 Subject: [Moon] K6PF QRV During Contest Message-ID: <008601c930cb$18240d40$6401a8c0@Office> Hello 2m EME Friends: I plan to be QRV during most of my EU window tonight & tomorrow night shortly after moonrise if condx allow. We had some warm dry winds the other day & usually hv a vy high noise level at those times. Will be QRV on 2m, CW, random & unassisted. Haven't had time to operate for several months so hope the equipment still works FB. GL & 73, Bob, K6PF DM13ar 4 X M^2 2MXP20s (19dBd, x-pol) 8877 HPA (1.5 KW) From guenter.koellner at nsn.com Sat Oct 18 12:54:37 2008 From: guenter.koellner at nsn.com (Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich)) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:54:37 +0200 Subject: [Moon] DL4MEA 23cm 1st pass results In-Reply-To: <50601.98.240.204.192.1224310118.squirrel@mymail.alaska.net> References: <50601.98.240.204.192.1224310118.squirrel@mymail.alaska.net> Message-ID: Hello, got up at 04:30 local time, nice breakfast and then something unusual: Station worked as expected! No broken cable, no blown preamp (well, that happend during the preparations), no water in a connector. Simply switched on and it worked. Worked: k1jt, k1rqg, dl0shf, df1sr, sp6jlw, g3ltf, ok3rm, pi9cam (ssb), k5pjr, sd3f, k2dh, ve6ta, w9iix, f5jwf, na4n, ny2z, hb9sv, oh2dg, la9nea, w2r, es5pc, ra3aq, dl1ymk, ok1ca, i5mpk (*), dl6sb, on7un, la2z, w4op, f5vhx, ru3ace, df3ru, va7mm, f2tu, sm4dhn, hb9hal, lx1db (ssb), hb9q (ssb), k4qi heard only g4rgk, ik2mmb, iw2fzr, n2uo, sv3aaf, rw2r (*1) the oscillator is moving away with every dash or dot! (anonymous) Y means YOUR call, so send your own some times more often Nice to see how widespread the stations operated today, activity went up to nearly 040. Some very strong signals (DL0SHF for example). For nearly the whole time I was only listening and searching for other CQs, it was real fun. And not at least when at the end it seemed as some ops were bored and we had a number of SSB channels opened. Rig: 4.5m dish, TH347 (operating at 700W output), 2 x MRF286 driver, FT847 G4DDK preamp 0.3dB NF, DD9DU transverter Currently showing 13.2dB sun noise @ SFI=70 If I catch up most of the ops on 23cm in this part, I will think about 70cm for the 2nd part. CUL in the evening and tomorrow morning once more with the same fun. 73, G?nter, DL4MEA From ibnkarim at bigpond.net.au Sat Oct 18 13:11:08 2008 From: ibnkarim at bigpond.net.au (Charlie Kahwagi) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:11:08 +1100 Subject: [Moon] to choke or not to choke? Message-ID: <25A524D36CA24F7185AD6FDBCA79132B@Charlieoffice> Hello Gents, May I please get some guidance from anyone that has tried A) A square septum B) Square Septum with single choke flange and C) An RA3AQ Style septum on 1296 MHz. Background info: I am presently building a feed for 1296 MHz and I will have to make some MAJOR adjustments to my mounting "cage" in order to fit a square septum with a choke ring at the correct focal point (I will be off by 0.25wL IF I don't make the changes.. loss of maybe ~7% dish efficiency according to W1GHZ data) I would prefer NOT to make any changes as all my feeds have been meticulously adjusted for the current setup. I will not have to make ANY changes for a plain square septum and I will be able to correctly position it at the focal point. .. So my question is : How much gain / efficiency improvement can I expect to get from adding a single choke OR adding a transition to circular and a choke as in the RA3AQ design The important information is that my dish is reasonable size (3.7m) so aperture blockage isn't an issue and it has an f/d= 0.4 I presently use the RA3AQ design on 13, 9 and 6cm and am very pleased with the performance but have never directly compared this with a square septum, only against circular W/G with choke flange and screw polarisers. I have read the numerous and excellent papers by Paul W1GHZ on these feeds but would like to hear from those that have direcly built and compared the different versions. Many tnx in advance, all replies will be very much appreciated as I make a decision. A feed is the only thing stopping me now from being QRV on 23cm. Regards Charlie VK3NX -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081018/ba78d88c/attachment.htm From k2dh at frontiernet.net Sat Oct 18 19:12:09 2008 From: k2dh at frontiernet.net (Dave Hallidy) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:12:09 -0400 Subject: [Moon] K2DH First Pass Results, Plans for Second Pass Message-ID: <1CC279DE7250499990705138C2C4F035@DAVE> All- I had a great time, even though I think maybe people were having a bit of trouble hearing my peanut whistle station. I worked 33, but had a number of "get aways". List of completions: hb9hal, ok1dfc, la9nea, pi9cam, ok1ca, g3ltf, es5pc, dl0shf, ik2mmb, w4op, sv3aaf, df1sr, k1jt, f5vhx, sp6jlw, dl4mea, ra3aq, k5pjr, iw2fzr, sd3f, df3ru, na4n, va7mm, dl1ymk, k1rqg, sm4dhn, hb9q, g4cch, ru3ace, ny2z, k4qi, ja6ahb, ja4blc. At 0250Z, I just couldn't piece together the call of the station patiently calling me- in retrospect, I believe it was f5jwf, but I couldn't do it then, so we need to try again. CWNR:sp7dcs, ur5lx, la2z, ok3rm, hb9sv, wa5wcp, on7un, w9iix, n2uo, ja4ljb, ja8ere. I'll be on tonight, starting at about 0200Z (as soon as the moon clears the neighbor's roof), looking for many more stations I know were on last night. My station: 5m solid dish, VE4MA "Super Feed", .28dB NF LNA, 150W TX. Please keep your ears open for my weak signal and I hope to work you all! 73 DAve K2DH From f2tu.philippe at orange.fr Sat Oct 18 19:42:25 2008 From: f2tu.philippe at orange.fr (F2TU Philippe) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:42:25 +0200 Subject: [Moon] F2TU 23cm/70cm 1st pass results Message-ID: <48FA2001.5020603@orange.fr> Hello, Qrv 5 hours only. 32 Qsos on 23cm and 4 on 70cm. The big surprise was heard for the first time a JA to the west! JA7ERE calling my 2 minutes before my moonset and qso 569/569.Was the sunrise for JA8ERE. I will be qrv this evening 19:00 - 22:00 and tomorrow morning 05:00 - 13:30. GL 73 -- Philippe PIERRAT - F2TU http://F2TU.perso.orange.fr From gabercr at nc.rr.com Sun Oct 19 02:14:04 2008 From: gabercr at nc.rr.com (Gary Abercrombie) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:14:04 -0400 Subject: [Moon] N8CQ 2nd moon pass Message-ID: <000001c9317f$98b4e790$6901a8c0@augusta> I worked only 7 stations last nite missing quite a few that were heard that disappeared almost as quick as they were heard. Rained hard at times all nite long. I need about 30 degrees of elevation to clear my house with the portable setup so I hope the Europeans stay up late or get an early start Sunday morning as I want to work as many new initials as possible with the portable setup. I'm getting better at putting the portable setup up. It took me 5 hours on Thursday to construct the H-frame and mount the yagis and around 2 hours on Friday to attach the preamp and feedlines. Missed last nite but heard and called: SD3F, N4GJV, WA4NJP. I heard many calling me but faraday was shifting quickly. Even the big stations were difficult to copy at times. Then again, I had some big echoes early this morning so hopefully this follows thru to 2nd moon pass. The moon clears my house around 0330Z tonite. Another several pots of coffee and hopefully many new initials. 73, Gary N8CQ 12x16el 1.5KW -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081018/3360bfaa/attachment.htm From k5pjr at centurytel.net Sun Oct 19 03:16:37 2008 From: k5pjr at centurytel.net (Tony) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:16:37 -0500 Subject: [Moon] 1296.035 Message-ID: <48FA8A75.7000802@centurytel.net> Will be on 1296.035 +/- QRM tonight and for awhile in morning. Tony, K5PJR -- 1296 Mhz EME 5 Meter Dish Ant. 0.2 db NF LNA 300 watta at feed EM37ka, near Springfield, Mo. From tikaluna at bigpond.com Sun Oct 19 08:50:35 2008 From: tikaluna at bigpond.com (Doug McArthur) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:50:35 +1100 Subject: [Moon] VK3UM activity Message-ID: <20081019065036.QBJS12257.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@tikaluna-jjn6i8.bigpond.com> Gentlemen After waiting 13 hours for my moon rise after the contest began there were only 2 USA Stations that were operating on BOTH BANDS (70 and 23) for my moon rise. I operated for just 15 minutes on 23 into Eu last night before I spat the dummy and returned to the gentlemans' band 70cm. Getting too old to get continuous QRM and people echo testing (netting) whilst you are trying to have a QSO. And to the guy whom I gave 57n and spent 2 of my 15 minutes giving me 58n .. you did it! And 70 had its rewards .. HB9Q called me on my frequency and scarred the living daylights out of me and the my dog with a huge signal .. they must have a new crystal ?? and Rob G4ALH is back on !! It was a tough night with deep QSB (no Libration) but a dream from the dog eat dog on 23 .. I may be back tonight (23cm) and am tempted to operate above 060 .. at least they do not listen up there and it should be echo testing clear... !! At this rate my last years crown as top multi mode operator is in jeopardy .. but I will probably be awarded the 220 crown in lieu! Don't complain of lack of activity .. come on .. the Moon actually works on moon set in the US (I think .. but I am not sure now !) Grrr 73 Doug VK3UM (I will take an extra dose of humor pills tonight) From guenter.koellner at nsn.com Sun Oct 19 12:57:51 2008 From: guenter.koellner at nsn.com (Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich)) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 12:57:51 +0200 Subject: [Moon] DL4MEA 23cm 1st + 2nd pass results In-Reply-To: References: <50601.98.240.204.192.1224310118.squirrel@mymail.alaska.net> Message-ID: Hello, 2nd pass again without troubles. Well, at least such, that do not prevent me from operating at all. The TH347 amp is somehow tired, by whatever reason. Neither, it is still stable. 1st pass: Worked: k1jt, k1rqg, dl0shf, df1sr, sp6jlw, g3ltf, ok3rm, pi9cam (ssb), k5pjr, sd3f, k2dh, ve6ta, w9iix, f5jwf, na4n, ny2z, hb9sv, oh2dg, la9nea, ww2r, es5pc, ra3aq, dl1ymk, ok1ca, i5mpk , dl6sb, on7un, la2z, w4op, f5vhx, ru3ace, df3ru, va7mm, f2tu, sm4dhn, hb9hal (*2), lx1db (ssb), hb9q (ssb), k4qi heard only g4rgk, ik2mmb, iw2fzr, n2uo, sv3aaf 2nd pass: ja6czd, oe5jfl, ik2mmb, vk4afl, iw2fzr, ik3coj, g4cch, ja4blc, vk3um, ur5lx, f5fen, sv3aaf -->sleep<-- oz4mm, on5rr, n2uo, sm5le, sp7dcs, k3jnz, pa3csg, wb2byp, hb9pnr (ssb) (*2), f6cgj, dl4dtu, wa5wcp, al7rt, hb9dgk (*2) heard only pa3fxb (*2) Am I right that HB9HAL, HB9PNR and HB9DGK are working from the same station, so it is only one initial??? Again stations worked widely spread until up to 040. Fine to see this. Sometimes there was a waterfall trace every 1kHz, very much activity. I am a little bit disappointed about having worked only 2 JA stations. While listening to SM4DHN I noticed that much more were QRV. But none of them answered me calling CQ. So I will be QRV for around 1.5h tonight after 20:30UT and look if I can find some more. Might be a risk, because my moonrise is local Monday morning in JA... Rig: 4.5m dish, TH347 (operating at 700W output), 2 x MRF286 driver, FT847 G4DDK preamp 0.3dB NF, DD9DU transverter Currently showing 13.2dB sun noise @ SFI=70 I am seriously thinking to be QRV on 70cm for the 2nd weekend if time permits... 73, G?nter, DL4MEA From sm5le at telia.com Sun Oct 19 16:51:41 2008 From: sm5le at telia.com (SM5LE) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:51:41 +0200 Subject: [Moon] [Moon-net] SM5LE QRV ARRL weeknd on 1296 MHz References: <9DDD22977AA948F9BDF1F484397D98E2@sven8aee87826d> Message-ID: <00433BBE229147828A363B2B4D025BB3@sven8aee87826d> I am on 1296 CW from 21:30z to 00:00z for : DL0SHF HB9SV HB9DKG ON7UN OZ4MM and others. Wrkd 14 CW ARRL/QSO?s so far ... /Sven SM5LE > Hi > > SM5LE QRV ARRL contest only 1296 MHz but CW and JT. > I am mostly on 010 CW and 065 JT. > > 73 and CU soon via moon /Sven > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > SM5LE in JO99bd > 2.2 meter mesh dish F/D=0.34 > Septum feed OK1DFC. With choke ring. > 500 W @ feed , CW ( 300W JT65 ) > Spid RAS rotator with MoonSked software by GM4JJJ > Rig : TS-2000X (with 1296 MHz module). > LNA : NE32684A cavity NF ~0.3 dB > 7.5 dB sun-noise > CW SSB JT65 > 1296 MHz only > SM5LE HomePage at : http://web.telia.com/~u14901544/ > Pictures : http://web.telia.com/~u14901546/home_page_no_3.htm > ----------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are at > http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html > From gabercr at nc.rr.com Sun Oct 19 18:23:35 2008 From: gabercr at nc.rr.com (Gary Abercrombie) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 12:23:35 -0400 Subject: [Moon] N8CQ Results Message-ID: <000001c93207$09616ef0$6901a8c0@augusta> I worked the following stations during the ARRL EME contest on 70cm: DL7APV, K0RZ (#18), OH2PO (#19), I2NDP (#20), UA3PTW (#21), DF3RU (#22), K1JT, G3LTF (#23), OZ4MM, OE5JFL (#24), SM2CEW (#25) Missed a number of stations that I just couldn't dig out with the rapidly changing conditions. Guess I need a faster polarity rotator. HI It was nice to finally work many of the stations that I worked up at K1FO during the last four years at my home station in North Carolina. Appears that my transmit section is working fine as echoes were quite strong at times. Need to tweak the receive section and get away from all the trees. I will take a few more photos of the portable setup today before dismantling. Anyone wanting to see the photos, let me know. Hopefully same time next year, I will have the 30' dish operational on 432 and 1296. 73, Gary N8CQ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here's my results, all on CW, random, unassisted: 1st pass (QRV 0350z - 0800z): RA6AX (great signal), F1FLA, W5UN, F0CXO, LA8YB, OK1MS & OZ1HNE. 2nd pass (QRV 0445z - 0615z): DK3EE, SP7DCS, IK2DDR & YO2AMU. Many tnx for all of the vy FB QSOs & I'm sorry for those who I missed. Will be QRV during the Nov. weekend so hope to work many more of you. Vy 73, Bob, K6PF 4 x M^2 2MXP20s (19dBd, x-pol) FT-1000MP, LT-2S Xvtr 8877 HPA running 1.5 KW From g3ltf at btinternet.com Mon Oct 20 02:24:26 2008 From: g3ltf at btinternet.com (peter blair) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 01:24:26 +0100 Subject: [Moon] G3LTF weekend results Message-ID: <004701c9324a$35f42050$0200a8c0@D7BX6Z0J> First pass 1296 MHz DF1SR, RA3AQ, JA6AHB, SP6JLW, SM5LE, RA3EC, UT5JCW, OK3RM, IK2MMB, RU3ACE, F5VHX, OK1DFC, LA9NEA, SD3F, K1RQG, SV3AAF, ON4BCB, DL0SHF, LA2Z, K2DH, LA5ZK, PI9CAM, ES5PC, W4OP, K1JT, OH2DG, W9IIX, DL4MEA, NA4N, IK3COJ, K5PJR, NY2Z, VE6TA, WW2R, I5MPK, LX1DB, HB9Q, K4QI, OE5JFL, G4CCH, AL7RT, 2cnd pass 1296 MHz F2TU,G4RGK, DL6SH, G3LQR, SP7DCS, F5FEN, OK1CA, JA6CZD, JA4BLC, ON5RR, DL1YMK, UR5LX, F5JWF, DL4DTU, PA3FXB, K3JNZ/0, N2UO, RW3PX, VE4SA, IW2FZR, HB9PNR, OZ4MM, HB9HAL, F6CGJ, HB9SV, VA7MM, K7XQ, 3rd pass 1296MHz VK3UM, VK4AFL, JF3HUC. TOT 71 First pass 432MHz SP6JLW, DL7APV, OH2PO, I1NDP, UA3PTW, N4GJV, DF3RU, W8TXT, SD3F, 2cnd pass 432 MHz UA6LGH, UT5DL, N8CQ, K1JT, SM2CEW, OZ4MM, OE5JFL, I5CTE, 3rd pass 432 MHz JA5NNS, LZ1DX, JA9BOH, DL5FN, JJ1NNJ. TOT 22 CWNR 1296, OE9ERC, SV1OE, HB9DGK, Heard ON7UN, W3HMS, JA4HZN, RW6AG, VK2JDN SM4DHN, CWNR 432 G4RGK, S53RM. KE2N Heard DL7UDA, Conditions very poor here on 432 on first pass but 2cnd and 3rd seemed much better. Amazing activity on 1296, I often counted 20 traces on the SDR between 1296.005 and .035. SDR now an invaluable operating aid here. I also worked LA8YB on 144 MHz CW with the tropo yagi at first moonset here. Thanks to all for a great weekend of eme and lots of fb QSOs Peter G3LTF -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081020/96233da3/attachment.html From rein0zn at ix.netcom.com Mon Oct 20 04:12:17 2008 From: rein0zn at ix.netcom.com (rein0zn at ix.netcom.com) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:12:17 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Moon] Archived audio ARRL Contest PI9CAR Message-ID: <285907.1224468738200.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hello All, At the moment the PI9CAR ( Dwingeloo Dish ) crew is displaying audio from the ARRL contest at: http://www.camras.nl:8901/ 73 Rein PA0ZN From k7xq at elite.net Mon Oct 20 05:38:59 2008 From: k7xq at elite.net (K7XQ) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:38:59 -0700 Subject: [Moon] K7XQ 432 and above EME weekend report Message-ID: <000001c93265$67061f70$6601a8c0@K7XQH> Due to late night commute from QRL and QRL burnout I was unable to QRV Friday Night so was QRV for only about 7 hours on Saturday night / Sunday morning ( 0600 UTC moonrise to 1300 UTC ). 432: Worked HB9Q, DL7APV and OH2PO. Called CQ frequently but no one else heard. Found signals on vertical polarity only. Echoes very weak and condx extremely poor. I find it extremely interesting that there a many having the same experience as myself and others that experience extremely good condx and activity. I wonder If this has something to due with the band and geographical location. Last weekend the 432 antenna array was thoughrly checked out to include measuring each and every phasing line on the network analyzer for proper electrical phase and every driven element adjusted for best match. 1296: What a great band with some outstanding signals! Echoes were super loud and signals were quite stable. It was unfortunate that I missed so many stations on Friday night and my body giving out on me Saturday night for lack of sleep. Worked LA9NEA, HB9Q, SM4DHN, OK1CA, PA3CSG#, F2TU, DF3RU, G3LTF, K1JT, ES5PC, K1RQG, G4CCH. On digital looking/calling CQ randomly, found afew new stations W7UPF#, K6JEY#, K1JT, G4CCH. Heard K1RQG on SSB. CWNR JA8ERE, HB9DGK, HB9HAL, SV1OE The highlight of the evening was finding and working the local SOCAL microwave group K6JEY on 1296 with their 7 foot dish and 150 watts. The 1296 preamp was accidentally blown out in the beginning of the contest but I have now setup a emergency solder station on standby with readily available spare parts in the shack to repair any blown preamp within 30 mins so it really handy to have in a timed contest ! There are many more stations I never worked yet and will leave 1296 feed in place if anyone is interested In a sked. Changing feed to 13 cm can also be done in about 20 mins. K7XQ Jeff Atwater,CA. Grid: CM97qi 144 MHz: 4 X M2 2MPX20 XPOL 20 dBd 1.5 kw single GS35b 432 MHz: 8 X M2 9 W.L. XPOL 26.3 dBd single GS-35b 1296 MHz: 3 meter dish 27 dBd 350 watts single water cooled GS-15 2304 MHz: 3 meter dish 32 dBd 180 watts SS Spectrain Amplifier 10368 MHz: 3 meter dish 45 dBd 20 Watt Varian TWTA K7XQ Webpage: http://www.elite.net/~k7xq/k7xq.html From pa3cwn at tele2.nl Mon Oct 20 11:13:02 2008 From: pa3cwn at tele2.nl (Oene) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:13:02 +0200 Subject: [Moon] PA3CWN contest Results & PA3CWN temporary qrt Message-ID: <48FC4B9E.8050108@tele2.nl> Hello All, I was QRV for most of the time in the ARRL contest and found perfect condx on the first night. I tested in SSB and could even hear my whistle in the microphone very weak as echo. A quick test in wsjt4 echo test gave me -13 as own echo Amazing ! But I was disappointed about the activity and missed a couple of hours on the Saturday morning so missed probably some stations which I regular work in the contest. The second moonpass started with fine signals but again low activity and could add 4 more stations for a total of 13 worked. Highlight was the qso with Chris PA2CHR and the DSP in Spectran helped me to dig the signals out of the noise. At that time Chris was the only station heard as all sigs came in V and he transmitted V pol. Stations worked OK1MS, DK3NG, IK1FJI, SP7DCS, IK2DDR, W5UN, RA6AX, F1FLA, LA8YB, IK3MAC, F0CXO, OZ1HNE, PA2CHR Stations hrd were LZ1DP, OK1VVP, YO9FRJ, I3EVK, K6PF, YO2AMU, 7K3LGC, JH0WJF, OK1TEH calling IK3MAC For the next half a year or so I will be qrt because my xyl and I are moving to another place in town. Our new home will have a slightly larger garden, so that gives me some room for somewhat larger antennas. But we have to rebuilt some in our new home before, so will be rather busy with that and leaving very little time for the hobby. I hope I can be back at the end of the spring or in summer next year. GL to All and CUAgn later 73 Oene PA3CWN JO33ah 4x9 DK7ZB 18.5 dBd GS35b LNA 54143 in shack From howard at g4cch.com Mon Oct 20 12:19:31 2008 From: howard at g4cch.com (Howard Ling) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:19:31 +0100 Subject: [Moon] G4CCH 23cm activity results - 17th to 19th October Message-ID: <94979150/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/88.104.113.118/10/20/08/11:19:43@mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com> Hi ALL, Well I did manage to get on over the weekend, and despite the pain from the operation on my foot earlier in the week, managed to get on for a few hours and take advantage of the increased activity during the contest. I didn't stop up through the night and missed about 12 hours of operating time to sleep... after all I was supposed to be resting, hi. Also missed the last session due to gusty wind, and didn't want to risk any damage to the dish... and I was too tired to operate anyway. As others have reported, I found plenty of activity and some very strong signals at times. Quite a few stations that I didn't work were only heard in QSO with someone else and then disappeared, never calling CQ and rarely answering my CQ's... shame at least 3 initials got away this time. I operated mainly on CW, but did make a few QSO's on JT65c two of which were initials - HB9EHJ/P Bodo from JN36, announced activity period by email no skeds, random. Also K6JEY random, On CW I added initials from HB9HAL, DF1SR, DL6SH and OK3RM. On both days I worked right through to the end of my window, and was hearing good CW and SSB echoes down to 3 deg elevation shooting between my house and my neighbours. I also worked JA8ERE the "opposite way" to normal, and heard him again on the second pass both at Moonrise and Moonset. Like last month, for a few hours streamed some audio and video of my EME activity through the BATC website - http://www.batc.tv/ch_live.php?ch=5&id=94. At times there were up to 13 viewers, I hope they found it interesting. If any of you noticed, I WAS on HB9Q's 23cm logger and ON4KST EME chat for much of the weekend, this is NOT WHAT I NORMALLY DO IN A CONTEST, but as I have no interest in entering this time, then it makes no difference. Actually, despite there being 20 to 30 stations logged in, there were very few postings and it appears that very little if any advantage was gained by anyone. I suspect that there were a few guys with small systems hoping for a big gun to announce they would be on and maybe make their first EME steps, but it didn't happen... Here's the stations who appear in my log... in alphabetical order 17th October CW/SSB = 3 RU3ACE, HB9HAL, JA4BLC 18th October CW/SSB = 37 AL7RT, DF1SR #, DF1SR dupe, DF3RU, DL0SHF, DL4DTU, DL4MEA, DL6SH # , ES5PC, F2TU, F5FEN, F5VHX, G3LTF, HB9DGK (same as HB9HAL etc?), HB9Q, JA6AHB, JA8ERE, K1JT, K2DH, K4QI LA2Z, LA9NEA, LX1DB, NA4N, NY2Z, OK1CA, OK3RM #, ON7UN, PI9CAM, SD3F, SP6JLW, SP7DCS, SV3AAF, UR5LX, VA7MM, VK4AFL, W9IIX, WA5WCP JT65c = 2 HB9EHJ/P PY2BS 19th October SSB/CW = 10 DL1YMK, IK2MMB, IK3COJ, K1JT dupe SSB, K1RQG, K1RQG dupe SSB, K7XQ, N2UO, OE9ERC, OH2DG, PA3CSG, WW2R JT65c = 4 K6JEY K7XQ PA3FXB RW6AG Heard / copied but not worked: CW = 10 HB9SV, I5MPK, IW2FZR, JA4HZN, JA4LJB, JA6CZD, RA3AQ (RW3BP?), RU3ACE (RD3DA), SM4DHN and VE6TA JT65c = 4 DJ9YW, G4DZU, IK5WJD and W7UPF Thanks very much to all for the fun and the QSO's, and I will try to be around during the next session in November. Best 73 & GL to ALL Howard, G4CCH www.g4cch.com HB 5.4m dish, W2IMU feed, F1EHN tracking, 650W CW or 450W JT65, 0.31 dB LNA. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 7074 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081020/3068b490/attachment.bin From howard at g4cch.com Mon Oct 20 15:45:26 2008 From: howard at g4cch.com (Howard Ling) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:45:26 +0100 Subject: [Moon] G4CCH 23cm activity results - 17th to 19th October, Corrections Message-ID: <94540055/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/88.104.113.118/10/20/08/14:45:34@mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com> Hi ALL, Thanks to Dmitry RA3AQ for pointing this out, I missed him from my list on 18th October. On checking my log for that I also discovered that I had missed Dave VK2JDS on JT65c. I hope I didn't miss anyone else... must be getting tired, or old, or both! The should look like: 18th October CW/SSB = 37 AL7RT, DF1SR #, DF1SR dupe, DF3RU, DL0SHF, DL4DTU, DL4MEA, DL6SH # , ES5PC, F2TU, F5FEN, F5VHX, G3LTF, HB9DGK (same as HB9HAL etc?), HB9Q, JA6AHB, JA8ERE, K1JT, K2DH, K4QI LA2Z, LA9NEA, LX1DB, NA4N, NY2Z, OK1CA, OK3RM #, ON7UN, PI9CAM, RA3AQ, SD3F, SP6JLW, SP7DCS, SV3AAF, UR5LX, VA7MM, VK4AFL, W9IIX, WA5WCP JT65c = 2 VK2JDS HB9EHJ/P PY2BS Heard / copied but not worked: CW = 10 HB9SV, I5MPK, IW2FZR, JA4HZN, JA4LJB, JA6CZD, RU3ACE (RD3DA), SM4DHN and VE6TA JT65c = 4 DJ9YW, G4DZU, IK5WJD and W7UPF Thanks very much to all for the fun and the QSO's, and I will try to be around during the next session in November. Best 73 & GL to ALL Howard, G4CCH www.g4cch.com HB 5.4m dish, W2IMU feed, F1EHN tracking, 650W CW or 450W JT65, 0.31 dB LNA. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Found conditions good on 23CM with outstanding activity and conditions on 70CM unter average. This year I don't join the ARRL contest, but instead helping to give good activity on the bands. Same time it's a pleasure to meet old friends and pickup new initials due the very high activity. Hope to be back next month, CU then. Stig, OZ4MM Avaible for skeds, drop me an email if interested. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081020/c6d41455/attachment-0001.htm From dl7apv at gmx.de Mon Oct 20 21:21:38 2008 From: dl7apv at gmx.de (Bernd Wilde) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:21:38 +0200 Subject: [Moon] LAst Weekend Message-ID: <48FCDA42.90100@gmx.de> Ge all, my new 432 systems seems to work fine. (16x13wl 9BV). Losts of things have to optimized now but my first impression was good. Have 18,5 dB sun at F=70. Is there any source for US-Digital in europe? Or what else can I use for hor. postioning with <0,5deg accuracy with analog output. Any help? Wkd 59 Stations last weekend, tnx to all who called me, and missed only KL7HFQ and WB9OWN. Gave KL7HFQ several QRZ got 5FQ K, but when I got his call he gave up. WB9OWN was in a pile up and disappeared when I got him.. Initials in CW were PI9CAM, JA0TJU, WA9KRT. Hope to work a few more in Nov. when its not windy, the only thing the new system doesnt like. 73 Bernd DL7APV P.S. any comment for the 432 lunar calendar 2009 is welcome til end of oct. From frankddr at tele2.it Mon Oct 20 21:40:16 2008 From: frankddr at tele2.it (Francesco) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:40:16 +0200 Subject: [Moon] IK2DDR 2 cent opinion, about eme contests In-Reply-To: <002501c932cb$6d9e71a0$48db54e0$@dk> Message-ID: I continue to believe that separate dates, for mode, will improve the traffic on each mode and it should be done reducing at one weekend for analogue modes and one weekend for digital.I do not agree with those friends that prefer to not partecipate, because in conflict with rules or with some Association or some person.For me this behavior will only produce, less activity and so less fun for those operators, like myself, that still considering (after many years of activity), eme=fun. Another personal opinion, is that is really a pity to note that the organizer country is active on 2m cw, with just some operator.I worked only 4 of them. We all know that there are lot of capable stations there, in NA. 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Have 18,5 dB sun > at F=70. Is there any source for US-Digital in europe? Or what else can > I use for hor. postioning with <0,5deg accuracy with analog output. Any > help? > Wkd 59 Stations last weekend, tnx to all who called me, and missed only > KL7HFQ and WB9OWN. Gave KL7HFQ several QRZ got 5FQ K, but when I got his > call he gave up. WB9OWN was in a pile up and disappeared when I got > him.. Initials in CW were PI9CAM, JA0TJU, WA9KRT. > Hope to work a few more in Nov. when its not windy, the only thing the > new system doesnt like. > > 73 Bernd DL7APV > > P.S. any comment for the 432 lunar calendar 2009 is welcome til end of > oct. > > > _______________________________________________ > Moon mailing list > Moon at moonbounce.info > http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon > > Please enter/update your standings: > http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html > > When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and > remove you from the list -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1735 - Release Date: 10/20/2008 2:52 PM From sm5le at telia.com Mon Oct 20 22:18:50 2008 From: sm5le at telia.com (SM5LE) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:18:50 +0200 Subject: [Moon] SM5LE 23cm activity results - 18th/19th October Message-ID: Hi Wrkd on CW , 18 QSO?s (8 more than last year) : OK1DFC , OK1CA , G3LTF , LA9NEA , HB9HAL , K1JT , SM4DHN , ES5PC , K1RQG , OH2DG , DF3RU , ON4BCB , F2TU , HB9Q , VK3UM , SP6JLV , F5FEN (new#) , SD3F. Hrd and called : DL0SHF , HB9SV , HB9DGK , ON7UN , OZ5MM , PI9CAM , F6CGJ , OE9ERC , JA6CZD , JA4BLC. Conds on Saturday night was really bad, havy fog , could almost not see the moon , even if no clouds. The more better on Sutterday , havy sigs from all :-) , got 579 from one ! 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URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081020/ffc3fb63/attachment.htm From tikaluna at bigpond.com Tue Oct 21 00:41:40 2008 From: tikaluna at bigpond.com (Doug McArthur) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:41:40 +1100 Subject: [Moon] humor pills worked VK3UM Message-ID: <20081020224140.OTJQ1284.nskntotgx02p.mx.bigpond.com@tikaluna-jjn6i8.bigpond.com> Gentlemen Brief report.. worked 28 on 70 and 42 on 23cms which leaves a lot to add next month. Deep fading on 70 all weekend, no Libration, Faraday close to zero on rise but 45 to 90 most of the time after about 10 degrees. Slow fading on 23 with slight Libration approaching Moon set. Conditions relatively stable all weekend but the deep fading provided a added challenge on 70. 23 was just a 'shelling peas' scramble of little challenge! (sfu 75 ..Sun 19.8dB 23cm .. 18.7dB 70cms .. c/s to term 23cm 6.6dB recorded at 0000z on 20 Oct 08 .. yes we see the Sun then! ) To he/those that asked why we have it (ARRL Contest)over so many weekends, well, with limited windows, we in this part of the world, it gives those that come on during our window the opportunity to work us. The above QSO's (70) averaged out at better than one QSO every 4 minutes and I try to exchange niceties during my QSO! Its not a case of winning it is a case of coming on and having fun and renewing friendships and meeting new ones during a period of concentrated activity which can be planned ahead. The ARRL has always promoted activity but as we all know if you want to change the rules all you have do is to write!. (you don't have 100+ sections without input!) I really don't know how to operate next month (concentrate on which band on what day) and am open to suggestions how others with dual band capabilities would prefer. The leaves should be off your trees 'up there' so lets formulate a plan to concentrate activity to the best advantage. I got caught out trying to be smart and speed things up when I called CQ on both bands simultaneously and, you guessed it, received replies on both! (JA's coincidentally) . Worked them, with a couple of pregnant pauses, as one took longer than the other to send a report. .. it was real fun for a while but never again! 73 GL Doug VK3UM From sv3aaf at yahoo.com Tue Oct 21 07:28:39 2008 From: sv3aaf at yahoo.com (SV3AAF Petros) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Moon] October 18/19 activity @ SV3AAF Message-ID: <734491.55607.qm@web59105.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Dear All, Very nice to work known and new stations for me, last weekend. I was on for parts of the moon passes and I do not register for participation to arrl contest due to the unsuitable for a radio contest rules and practices allowed. WX: overcast, mostly calm with some rain - minimal effect to EME. Worked on CW as follows: 432Mhz: relatively low activity, average condx with QSB and moderate libration, some faraday to the west. Worked: UA3PTW, DL7APV (congrats Bernd! signal improved with new sys), VK3UM, SD3F (took Carl for g3ltf!?), DF3RU, I1NDP, K0RZ, N4GJV, OH2PO, OZ4MM, SM2CEW, OE5JFL. 1296Mhz: high activity, fair condx with moderate libration. Excessive echo testing QRM spanning the spectrum monitor, fortunately this time I did not suffer the frequency hijacking incidents of 23cm. Worked: DL0SHF, HB9HAL, OK1DFC, G3LTF, PI9CAM, OK1CA, IK2MMB, K1RQG, OH2DG, SP6JLW, DF1SR, K2DH, F5VHX, LA9NEA, W4OP, VE6TA, WW2R, NA4N, NY2Z, ES5PC, RA3AQ, DF3RU, IW2FZR, OK3RM, SD3F, F5JWF, F2TU, HB9DGK, SM4DHN, LA2ZDA, SP7DCS, DL4MEA, IK3COJ, JA6CZD, JA6AHB, G4CCH, DL1YMK, IK2RTI, ON5RR, DL6SH(rushing to qsy or qrt??) 144Mhz: average condx with deep QSB and faraday, signals peaking strong for very brief periods. Worked: F1FLA, LA8YB, SP7DCS, OK1MS. 73, Petros SV3AAF, [km17ko] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081020/873cac15/attachment.htm From marchi.g at libero.it Tue Oct 21 09:19:39 2008 From: marchi.g at libero.it (Giorgio Marchi) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:19:39 +0200 Subject: [Moon] Adresses Message-ID: <001801c9334d$61c5ef70$0100a8c0@graf> Hi, in the ARRL I have qsoed also with UA9UHN and with SM0EJY, I do not find them in QRZ. Please help for their adresses. Tnx to all, 73, Gio IK1UWL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Partial qso with VK2J?? He did not understand YYY, its sequence too short and its signal has become increasingly lower 5 (VK2JDN?). Many people on 23cm, I think more than 90 stations were qrv..! 432 MHz: Only 20 minutes on.Qsos N4GJV, K1JT#, W8TXT#, SD3F. 73 -- Philippe PIERRAT - F2TU http://F2TU.perso.orange.fr From guenter.koellner at nsn.com Tue Oct 21 19:38:51 2008 From: guenter.koellner at nsn.com (Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich)) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:38:51 +0200 Subject: [Moon] Initials info: HB9HAL, HB9DGK and HB9PNR as well as K3JNZ Message-ID: Hello, I just got confirmed that HB9HAL, HB9DGK and HB9PNR were working from the same station (see HB9HAL's web page). So it counts as one initial only, whomever you worked first. And as far as I know K3JNZ using KA0Y's former station cannot be counted as inital, too: http://www.ka0y.com/home.htm It should be already known, but let me mention: SD3F is the new callsign of SM3AKW (he changed it extra for me because I always had problems with the SM3..., as he explained me in Florence ;-))) ). Former DD0SB is now DF1SR, also must be counted single. Who ever worked DL4HUP on 23cm around 2001-2004, this is the same station as mine (DL4MEA) Hope I am right... 73, G?nter (dl4mea) From w5lua at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 21 20:34:35 2008 From: w5lua at sbcglobal.net (Al Ward) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:34:35 -0000 Subject: [Moon] ARRL EME Contest Message-ID: <003e01c933ab$ac765470$4501a8c0@Al1> Hello EMEers Well it certainly appears that the first weekend of the 1296 MHz and below ARRL EME contest has produced record numbers on at least 1296 MHz. I hope the same is true of the lower bands as well. Folks have indicated that the number is probably over 90 and with many of us having attended Microwave Update in Minneapolis, it sure appears that the number may rise to over 100 once the November weekend is over. With the apparently all time high participation, it sure seems counterproductive to boycott the ARRL contest. Boycotting sends a clear message back to the ARRL that interest in EME must be down based solely on contest submissions. Therefore, I suggest that we all send our scores in and in addition, try once again to make our comments known to the ARRL as changes that we would like to see made. After talking to KX9X about soapbox comments he has received suggesting changes, he notes that only about a half dozen or so really made suggestions for change in their soapbox. In fact, some of the biggest complainers here on the moon reflectors did not even submit suggestions for change. Keep in mind that although there maybe some folks at the league "listening" to this reflector, it takes more than complaining on this reflector to affect change. We must, myself included, again make our suggestions known in our soap box reports as to changes that we would like to see made. KX9X guarantees that our comments will be sent to the VUAC who as I mentioned earlier is the group who recommends changes to the Membership Services Committee and only then will the changes be voted on. One suggestion would be that we have only one weekend set aside for 1296 MHz and below on CW with the remaining weekend reserved for digital. I know that this choice might leave the die hard CW types with nothing to do on the normal second weekend but I don't see anyway around that unless we incorporate in a December weekend. I personally would prefer two weekends for CW as most CW types would probably like to have one weekend for 1296 and the second for 432 or even 222 or 902 or 144. December normally gets voted out due to the potential of very cold weather and not wanting to change feeds or fix stuff in the cold. I am also going to suggest that we do obtain a second weekend for 2304 and above as I was very busy trying to keep 5 microwave bands going in September. The problem here is that the 2304 and above weekend does coincide with the Italian contest, but the only other choices would be December or August. Any thoughts? Also, if we do keep the 2304 and above weekend in September then in order to get a second weekend for 2304 and above, I might suggest two consecutive weekends for 2304 and above. One weekend would be high declination and the other would be on the perigee side of high declination. The lower declinations would also help our ever increasing folks south of the equator to participate even more. This was already proved out in September as the weekend following the EME contest was full of activity and mostly from downunder. That's' my 2 cents for the moment. Please remember to send in your scores and try once again to make your suggestions for improvements known. I would like to see the system work and I am willing to work with KX9X and the VUAC people to try to make this happen. I will be sending these comments on to KX9X at the league, so I guess if you don't agree, you might want to send your comments in as well. Otherwise nothing will ever change. EME in my mind is the best part of amateur radio and the fellowship that it produces is just phenomenal as was proven in Florence. And I am not trying to defend the league on their past performance. Believe me.as I have had some heated discussions with my very good friend Joel W5ZN, league President, about how I think things should be. That is how strongly I feel about at least trying to do things right by suggesting constructive changes through the proper channels. Also keep in mind that KX9X is new to this position and is trying to do the right things also. Looking forward to the next weekend on 1296. Best 73 Al W5LUA EM13qc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081021/7699eaaf/attachment.htm From guenter.koellner at nsn.com Tue Oct 21 21:31:21 2008 From: guenter.koellner at nsn.com (Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich)) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:31:21 +0200 Subject: [Moon] ARRL EME Contest In-Reply-To: <003e01c933ab$ac765470$4501a8c0@Al1> References: <003e01c933ab$ac765470$4501a8c0@Al1> Message-ID: Hello all: I agree with Al: Send in the logs in order to demonstrate activity, whatever you think about the rules. I have sent in 2007, but did not even look at the results. Lets wait for the total number of stations participating on the different bands and the conclude how to mix. I think the old scheme we are running is still from the times when 70cm was the most aktive band. Probably it is in deed senseful to have 9cm and up at the best conditions weekend 70cm+13cm on another and 23cm separated. Since not much people are QRV on 9cm, partly because they don't have permission, it might put a little bit more focus back to 70cm. In my case it is now the problem to decide if I shall do 10 more QSO on two days on 23cm, or having fun on 70cm during the next contest weekend. Hard decision.... 73, G?nter (dl4mea) -------------- n?chster Teil -------------- Ein Dateianhang mit HTML-Daten wurde abgetrennt... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081021/59671065/attachment.htm From w5lua at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 21 21:37:19 2008 From: w5lua at sbcglobal.net (Al Ward) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:37:19 -0000 Subject: [Moon] Initials info: HB9HAL, HB9DGK and HB9PNR as well as K3JNZ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <005401c933b4$6f591a10$4501a8c0@Al1> Gunter Although it appears to us that K3JNZ is just another call at KA0Y's station, I am not sure that is fair to K3JNZ since he has actually purchased the QTH from Ken. If he can not appear on the band as a new initial with a station that he has purchased, then he may find it difficult to solicit new calls that he needs for WAS, DXCC, etc. Fine line on this one but I think we need to give the new station operator a fair chance and allow him to be a new initial. With regards to multiple calls from one station during a contest, I think that should be disallowed. Allowing multiple calls from one station during the contest can give a station working all ops an unfair advantage. With regards to collecting initials, allowing new calls to come up as ops at an existing station kinda muddies the meaning or significance of collecting initials. That's my 2 more cents Best 73 Al w5LUA -----Original Message----- From: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info] On Behalf Of Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich) Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 5:39 PM To: moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net; moon at moonbounce.info Subject: [Moon] Initials info: HB9HAL, HB9DGK and HB9PNR as well as K3JNZ Hello, I just got confirmed that HB9HAL, HB9DGK and HB9PNR were working from the same station (see HB9HAL's web page). So it counts as one initial only, whomever you worked first. And as far as I know K3JNZ using KA0Y's former station cannot be counted as inital, too: http://www.ka0y.com/home.htm It should be already known, but let me mention: SD3F is the new callsign of SM3AKW (he changed it extra for me because I always had problems with the SM3..., as he explained me in Florence ;-))) ). Former DD0SB is now DF1SR, also must be counted single. Who ever worked DL4HUP on 23cm around 2001-2004, this is the same station as mine (DL4MEA) Hope I am right... 73, G?nter (dl4mea) _______________________________________________ Moon mailing list Moon at moonbounce.info http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon Please enter/update your standings: http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list From ben at parabolic.se Tue Oct 21 22:19:36 2008 From: ben at parabolic.se (SM6CKU) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:19:36 +0200 Subject: [Moon] K3JNZ References: <005401c933b4$6f591a10$4501a8c0@Al1> Message-ID: I completely agree with you Al ! 73 de Ben SM6CKU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Ward" To: "'Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich)'" ; ; Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [Moon] Initials info: HB9HAL, HB9DGK and HB9PNR as well as K3JNZ Gunter Although it appears to us that K3JNZ is just another call at KA0Y's station, I am not sure that is fair to K3JNZ since he has actually purchased the QTH from Ken. If he can not appear on the band as a new initial with a station that he has purchased, then he may find it difficult to solicit new calls that he needs for WAS, DXCC, etc. Fine line on this one but I think we need to give the new station operator a fair chance and allow him to be a new initial. With regards to multiple calls from one station during a contest, I think that should be disallowed. Allowing multiple calls from one station during the contest can give a station working all ops an unfair advantage. With regards to collecting initials, allowing new calls to come up as ops at an existing station kinda muddies the meaning or significance of collecting initials. That's my 2 more cents Best 73 Al w5LUA -----Original Message----- From: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info] On Behalf Of Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich) Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 5:39 PM To: moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net; moon at moonbounce.info Subject: [Moon] Initials info: HB9HAL, HB9DGK and HB9PNR as well as K3JNZ Hello, I just got confirmed that HB9HAL, HB9DGK and HB9PNR were working from the same station (see HB9HAL's web page). So it counts as one initial only, whomever you worked first. And as far as I know K3JNZ using KA0Y's former station cannot be counted as inital, too: http://www.ka0y.com/home.htm It should be already known, but let me mention: SD3F is the new callsign of SM3AKW (he changed it extra for me because I always had problems with the SM3..., as he explained me in Florence ;-))) ). Former DD0SB is now DF1SR, also must be counted single. Who ever worked DL4HUP on 23cm around 2001-2004, this is the same station as mine (DL4MEA) Hope I am right... 73, G?nter (dl4mea) _______________________________________________ Moon mailing list Moon at moonbounce.info http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon Please enter/update your standings: http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list _______________________________________________ Moon mailing list Moon at moonbounce.info http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon Please enter/update your standings: http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list From sp7dcs at wp.pl Tue Oct 21 22:42:11 2008 From: sp7dcs at wp.pl (Chris SP7DCS) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:42:11 +0200 Subject: [Moon] 2m & 23cm CW results Message-ID: <48FE3EA3.5030000@wp.pl> Hello, I was qrv on 2m and 23cm CW eme. I worked only random unassisted and I had great fun. After 23cm SSPA failure during summer I started to work on new PA for this band. I managed to finish all the work on Friday evening without any chance to check my rig - fortunately all worked well giving solid 200W at feed. Bad point was that work on 23cm PA postponed repairs on 70cm array. I had great time on 23cm which is fascinating me more and more. Even with my small station I could hear band crowded with a lot of signals and pile ups like on HF hi hi. A little more power than last year helped a lot! At the same time 2m was a huge dissapointment. Lowest activity ever. Where were moments with NO single station on the band! It is hard to belive, but conclusion is that modest 23cm station (3m + 200W) is much more productive than big 2m array (16 x 8el + gs35b). I guess it shows the direction. 144MHz - 28 qsos - 16x8el Yagi H-pol, GS35b, IC746, FHX35, DSP MFJ784b, Winrad First pass: DK3NG#314 IK2DDR OK1MS OZ1HNE YU1EV I3EVK YU7XL PA3CWN RA6AX F1FLA W3TWX F0CXO K9MRI LZ1DP W5UN LA8YB SV3AAF K1JT Second pass: JN1CSO 7K3LGC OK1KKD IK3MAC OK1VVP IK1FJI YO2AMU DK3EE K6PF Third pass: SP3XBO 1296MHz - 33 qsos - 3m dish, 200W at feed RA3AQ, TRV23cm by SP9WY, PA HM 4xBLV958, IC746, ATF54154, DSP MFJ784b, Winrad First pass: PI9CAM# DL0SHF# K1RQG LA9NEA RU3ACE# OK1CA ES5PC K1JT OH2DG# SP6JLW DL1YMK RA3AQ F2TU SM4DHN# SD3F# Second pass: HB9Q G4CCH SV3AAF# G3LTF K2DH IK2MMB# IK3COJ# DL4MEA HB9DGK# ON7UN HB9HAL (same as HB9DGK) F6CGJ# Third pass: VK3UM DF3RU JA4BLC# OE9ERC F5VHX# JA6CZD#53 So total 61 CW qsos on both bands. To compare, last year I had 42 qsos on 2m and 19 qsos on 23cm after first weekend giving the same total score. Now my main goal is to repair 70cm before second weekend, keep your fingers crossed;) I am strongly for separate weekends for CW and JT in ARRL contest. I don't think boycott will have any positive result, but for sure it decreases activity... VY 73 ! de Chris SP7DCS -- Chris SP7DCS email - sp7dcs at wp.pl, sp7dcs at o2.pl, sp7dcs at smrw.lodz.pl EME PAGE - http://sp7dcs.webpark.pl From cupido at mail.ua.pt Wed Oct 22 02:13:28 2008 From: cupido at mail.ua.pt (Luis Cupido) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:13:28 +0100 Subject: [Moon] K3JNZ In-Reply-To: References: <005401c933b4$6f591a10$4501a8c0@Al1> Message-ID: <48FE7028.2040307@mail.ua.pt> New owner at an old station = initial seems fair to me. What about same operator at a new station in another location ?? Will it be an initial to others or not. I've moved to another place, same major grid, different small grid square. different installation and equipment same antenna for the moment. What would be ? Luis Cupido ct1dmk. SM6CKU wrote: > I completely agree with you Al ! > 73 de Ben SM6CKU > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Ward" > To: "'Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich)'" ; > ; > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:37 PM > Subject: Re: [Moon] Initials info: HB9HAL, HB9DGK and HB9PNR as well as > K3JNZ > > > Gunter > Although it appears to us that K3JNZ is just another call at KA0Y's station, > I am not sure that is fair to K3JNZ since he has actually purchased the QTH > from Ken. If he can not appear on the band as a new initial with a station > that he has purchased, then he may find it difficult to solicit new calls > that he needs for WAS, DXCC, etc. Fine line on this one but I think we need > to give the new station operator a fair chance and allow him to be a new > initial. > With regards to multiple calls from one station during a contest, I think > that should be disallowed. Allowing multiple calls from one station during > the contest can give a station working all ops an unfair advantage. > With regards to collecting initials, allowing new calls to come up as ops at > an existing station kinda muddies the meaning or significance of collecting > initials. > That's my 2 more cents > Best 73 > Al w5LUA > > -----Original Message----- > From: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info] On > Behalf Of Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich) > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 5:39 PM > To: moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net; moon at moonbounce.info > Subject: [Moon] Initials info: HB9HAL, HB9DGK and HB9PNR as well as K3JNZ > > Hello, > > I just got confirmed that HB9HAL, HB9DGK and HB9PNR were working from the > same station (see HB9HAL's web page). So it counts as one initial only, > whomever you worked first. > > And as far as I know K3JNZ using KA0Y's former station cannot be counted as > inital, too: > http://www.ka0y.com/home.htm > > It should be already known, but let me mention: SD3F is the new callsign of > SM3AKW (he changed it extra for me because I always had problems with the > SM3..., as he explained me in Florence ;-))) ). > > Former DD0SB is now DF1SR, also must be counted single. > > Who ever worked DL4HUP on 23cm around 2001-2004, this is the same station as > mine (DL4MEA) > > Hope I am right... > > 73, G?nter (dl4mea) > > _______________________________________________ > Moon mailing list > Moon at moonbounce.info > http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon > > Please enter/update your standings: > http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html > > When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove > you from the list > > > _______________________________________________ > Moon mailing list > Moon at moonbounce.info > http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon > > Please enter/update your standings: > http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html > > When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove > you from the list > > > _______________________________________________ > Moon mailing list > Moon at moonbounce.info > http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon > > Please enter/update your standings: > http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html > > When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list > From w5lua at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 22 04:33:27 2008 From: w5lua at sbcglobal.net (Al Ward) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:33:27 -0000 Subject: [Moon] K3JNZ In-Reply-To: <48FE7028.2040307@mail.ua.pt> Message-ID: <006501c933ee$9165f120$4501a8c0@Al1> Luis I think you should be a new initial. Even same equipment at a different location would be similar to WA5WCP/P who operated same equipment but different location which should qualify for a new initial. 73 Al W5LUA -----Original Message----- From: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info] On Behalf Of Luis Cupido Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:13 AM To: moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net; moon at moonbounce.info Subject: Re: [Moon] K3JNZ New owner at an old station = initial seems fair to me. What about same operator at a new station in another location ?? Will it be an initial to others or not. I've moved to another place, same major grid, different small grid square. different installation and equipment same antenna for the moment. What would be ? Luis Cupido ct1dmk. SM6CKU wrote: > I completely agree with you Al ! > 73 de Ben SM6CKU > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Ward" > To: "'Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich)'" ; > ; > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:37 PM > Subject: Re: [Moon] Initials info: HB9HAL, HB9DGK and HB9PNR as well as > K3JNZ > > > Gunter > Although it appears to us that K3JNZ is just another call at KA0Y's station, > I am not sure that is fair to K3JNZ since he has actually purchased the QTH > from Ken. If he can not appear on the band as a new initial with a station > that he has purchased, then he may find it difficult to solicit new calls > that he needs for WAS, DXCC, etc. Fine line on this one but I think we need > to give the new station operator a fair chance and allow him to be a new > initial. > With regards to multiple calls from one station during a contest, I think > that should be disallowed. Allowing multiple calls from one station during > the contest can give a station working all ops an unfair advantage. > With regards to collecting initials, allowing new calls to come up as ops at > an existing station kinda muddies the meaning or significance of collecting > initials. > That's my 2 more cents > Best 73 > Al w5LUA > > -----Original Message----- > From: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info] On > Behalf Of Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich) > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 5:39 PM > To: moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net; moon at moonbounce.info > Subject: [Moon] Initials info: HB9HAL, HB9DGK and HB9PNR as well as K3JNZ > > Hello, > > I just got confirmed that HB9HAL, HB9DGK and HB9PNR were working from the > same station (see HB9HAL's web page). So it counts as one initial only, > whomever you worked first. > > And as far as I know K3JNZ using KA0Y's former station cannot be counted as > inital, too: > http://www.ka0y.com/home.htm > > It should be already known, but let me mention: SD3F is the new callsign of > SM3AKW (he changed it extra for me because I always had problems with the > SM3..., as he explained me in Florence ;-))) ). > > Former DD0SB is now DF1SR, also must be counted single. > > Who ever worked DL4HUP on 23cm around 2001-2004, this is the same station as > mine (DL4MEA) > > Hope I am right... > > 73, G?nter (dl4mea) > > _______________________________________________ > Moon mailing list > Moon at moonbounce.info > http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon > > Please enter/update your standings: > http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html > > When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove > you from the list > > > _______________________________________________ > Moon mailing list > Moon at moonbounce.info > http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon > > Please enter/update your standings: > http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html > > When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove > you from the list > > > _______________________________________________ > Moon mailing list > Moon at moonbounce.info > http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon > > Please enter/update your standings: > http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html > > When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list > _______________________________________________ Moon mailing list Moon at moonbounce.info http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon Please enter/update your standings: http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list From guenter.koellner at nsn.com Wed Oct 22 06:53:47 2008 From: guenter.koellner at nsn.com (Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich)) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:53:47 +0200 Subject: [Moon] K3JNZ In-Reply-To: <006501c933ee$9165f120$4501a8c0@Al1> References: <48FE7028.2040307@mail.ua.pt> <006501c933ee$9165f120$4501a8c0@Al1> Message-ID: Hi, I wasn't a new initial even when I moved from JN58jd to JN58ri... Which is 55km distance 73, G?nter -----Original Message----- From: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info] On Behalf Of ext Al Ward Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:33 AM To: 'Luis Cupido'; moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net; moon at moonbounce.info Subject: Re: [Moon] K3JNZ Luis I think you should be a new initial. Even same equipment at a different location would be similar to WA5WCP/P who operated same equipment but different location which should qualify for a new initial. 73 Al W5LUA -----Original Message----- From: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info] On Behalf Of Luis Cupido Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:13 AM To: moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net; moon at moonbounce.info Subject: Re: [Moon] K3JNZ New owner at an old station = initial seems fair to me. What about same operator at a new station in another location ?? Will it be an initial to others or not. I've moved to another place, same major grid, different small grid square. different installation and equipment same antenna for the moment. What would be ? Luis Cupido ct1dmk. SM6CKU wrote: > I completely agree with you Al ! > 73 de Ben SM6CKU > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Ward" > To: "'Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich)'" ; > ; > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:37 PM > Subject: Re: [Moon] Initials info: HB9HAL, HB9DGK and HB9PNR as well as > K3JNZ > > > Gunter > Although it appears to us that K3JNZ is just another call at KA0Y's station, > I am not sure that is fair to K3JNZ since he has actually purchased the QTH > from Ken. If he can not appear on the band as a new initial with a station > that he has purchased, then he may find it difficult to solicit new calls > that he needs for WAS, DXCC, etc. Fine line on this one but I think we need > to give the new station operator a fair chance and allow him to be a new > initial. > With regards to multiple calls from one station during a contest, I think > that should be disallowed. Allowing multiple calls from one station during > the contest can give a station working all ops an unfair advantage. > With regards to collecting initials, allowing new calls to come up as ops at > an existing station kinda muddies the meaning or significance of collecting > initials. > That's my 2 more cents > Best 73 > Al w5LUA > > -----Original Message----- > From: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info] On > Behalf Of Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich) > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 5:39 PM > To: moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net; moon at moonbounce.info > Subject: [Moon] Initials info: HB9HAL, HB9DGK and HB9PNR as well as K3JNZ > > Hello, > > I just got confirmed that HB9HAL, HB9DGK and HB9PNR were working from the > same station (see HB9HAL's web page). So it counts as one initial only, > whomever you worked first. > > And as far as I know K3JNZ using KA0Y's former station cannot be counted as > inital, too: > http://www.ka0y.com/home.htm > > It should be already known, but let me mention: SD3F is the new callsign of > SM3AKW (he changed it extra for me because I always had problems with the > SM3..., as he explained me in Florence ;-))) ). > > Former DD0SB is now DF1SR, also must be counted single. > > Who ever worked DL4HUP on 23cm around 2001-2004, this is the same station as > mine (DL4MEA) > > Hope I am right... > > 73, G?nter (dl4mea) > > _______________________________________________ > Moon mailing list > Moon at moonbounce.info > http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon > > Please enter/update your standings: > http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html > > When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove > you from the list > > > _______________________________________________ > Moon mailing list > Moon at moonbounce.info > http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon > > Please enter/update your standings: > http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html > > When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove > you from the list > > > _______________________________________________ > Moon mailing list > Moon at moonbounce.info > http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon > > Please enter/update your standings: > http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html > > When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list > _______________________________________________ Moon mailing list Moon at moonbounce.info http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon Please enter/update your standings: http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list _______________________________________________ Moon mailing list Moon at moonbounce.info http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon Please enter/update your standings: http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list From guenter.koellner at nsn.com Wed Oct 22 07:33:14 2008 From: guenter.koellner at nsn.com (Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich)) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:33:14 +0200 Subject: [Moon] [W2DRZ] 2 more cents about eme contests In-Reply-To: <001601c93406$8ee41450$6501a8c0@workcad> References: <002501c932cb$6d9e71a0$48db54e0$@dk><20081021021415.7c588cae.leif@sm5bsz.com><2749.66.230.108.103.1224602906.squirrel@mymail.alaska.net><200810220205.m9M25J12079374@malik.acsalaska.net> <001601c93406$8ee41450$6501a8c0@workcad> Message-ID: Hi, we live in the time of global warming, so your snow will disappear. Think into the future! 73, G?nter (dl4mea) -----Original Message----- From: moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net [mailto:moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net] On Behalf Of ext w2drz Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:25 AM To: Edward Cole; moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net; Mike KL6M Cc: moon at moonbounce.info Subject: Re: [Moon-net] 2 more cents about eme contests Hi All, Here is what I have a problem with on any changes to the contest dates. At this time there IS snow on the ground here in western NY state, USA with more predicted later today. Starting in NOVEMBER the winter conditions are able to be severe and extreme with High winds up to 100+ MPH and ICE with snow. Past 2 years have not been on in contest for NOV date do to this weather problem. tom W2DRZ >13cm and up 10/11-Oct-2009 >50MHz thru 23cm 7/8-Nov-2009 >Digital 5/6-Dec-2009 _______________________________________________ Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are at http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html From guenter.koellner at nsn.com Wed Oct 22 08:20:15 2008 From: guenter.koellner at nsn.com (Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich)) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:20:15 +0200 Subject: [Moon] [Moon-net] 2 meter WAS - Hawaii without internet In-Reply-To: <200810220606.m9M66ewW055456@iris.acsalaska.net> References: <000601c933dc$6a55a830$010aa8c0@N5KDA><000401c933e9$44a72110$6303a8c0@wa4ewv.net> <200810220606.m9M66ewW055456@iris.acsalaska.net> Message-ID: Hello friends, I normally do not take care about people doing QSOs partly on loggers or whereever else. I for myself can really state that I am doing the QSOs only while sitting at the radio and not on the internet. I also have to admit that I am not aware about the doing on loggers, neither the operating techniques on digital modes. But this mail contains something, that makes me thinking: -----Original Message----- From: moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net [mailto:moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net] On Behalf Of ext Edward Cole Subject: Re: [Moon-net] 2 meter WAS I read everything that is on MoonNet. I was QRV about 0350-0700 utc 18 Oct. 2008 and worked 7 stations (3-initial). Jeremy was planning to operate in Hawaii, but without internet. I did not see him on but he runs only random on digital. "but without internet".... Someone sitting in Hawaii, but he cannot operate because he has no internet? Really??? One cannot operate because there is no internet available? Isn't that the real sense of amateur radio, getting communication even without internet? Where did the situation go on digial modes meanwhile? Or did I really miss something? No, I am not old fashioned. I am among the 5 youngest age in EME, as we discovered in Florence... 73, G?nter (dl4mea) From franco.cominelli at sidergarda.com Wed Oct 22 08:43:31 2008 From: franco.cominelli at sidergarda.com (Cominelli Franco) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:43:31 +0200 Subject: [Moon] R: [Moon-net] 2 meter WAS - Hawaii without internet Message-ID: <205208A153FD8F46A23A1AC5F3DCB5AA8F0481@server01.SIDERGARDA.local> Good point of view G?nter. The main problem is that people is getting the custom to stay on the logger on real time and use loggers, chatrooms and whatever,instead to turn the VFO up and down. It seems to be much more productive,hi,hi. Real a big satisfaction on working on eme contest in such way. I have explaine in Florence my point of view and i don't claim to be in the right, is only my opinion, but EME contests should be, as said in Florence by many of present people, only radio and nothing more. Unfortunately if the contest rule accepts any assisted class, it's sure that this influence also lot of stations that claim to take place in the Unassisted classes. This mode to do contests seems to me, as to admit a debacle of ham radio technology. It sound like to say that without external help, we can't do eme. We all know that is not true and we all know that the major satisfactions are constructed with an hard work and with lot of patience, but it seems that now everyone of us will work all immediately, DXCC-WAS-WAC and whatever. Let me say that since next contest i'll see active also those operators that have choose to stay out for some particular reasons. Please back on cqing and livening our bands (specially the 2 m - 70cm range, because it seems that 23 cm still alive), It's not necessary to stay on 48 hours, also a presence of some hours, improves the activity and the final result is a BIG FUN for all and this independently by the partecipation or not in the contest. Thank you all for your patience. Francesco,IK2DDR -----Messaggio originale----- Da: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info]Per conto di Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich) Inviato: mercoled? 22 ottobre 2008 8.20 A: ext Edward Cole; MoonNet; moon at moonbounce.info Oggetto: Re: [Moon] [Moon-net] 2 meter WAS - Hawaii without internet Hello friends, I normally do not take care about people doing QSOs partly on loggers or whereever else. I for myself can really state that I am doing the QSOs only while sitting at the radio and not on the internet. I also have to admit that I am not aware about the doing on loggers, neither the operating techniques on digital modes. But this mail contains something, that makes me thinking: -----Original Message----- From: moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net [mailto:moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net] On Behalf Of ext Edward Cole Subject: Re: [Moon-net] 2 meter WAS I read everything that is on MoonNet. I was QRV about 0350-0700 utc 18 Oct. 2008 and worked 7 stations (3-initial). Jeremy was planning to operate in Hawaii, but without internet. I did not see him on but he runs only random on digital. "but without internet".... Someone sitting in Hawaii, but he cannot operate because he has no internet? Really??? One cannot operate because there is no internet available? Isn't that the real sense of amateur radio, getting communication even without internet? Where did the situation go on digial modes meanwhile? Or did I really miss something? No, I am not old fashioned. I am among the 5 youngest age in EME, as we discovered in Florence... 73, G?nter (dl4mea) _______________________________________________ Moon mailing list Moon at moonbounce.info http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon Please enter/update your standings: http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list From sm2ekm at telia.com Wed Oct 22 09:37:23 2008 From: sm2ekm at telia.com (Jan Erik Holm) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:37:23 +0200 Subject: [Moon] [Moon-net] 2 meter WAS - Hawaii without internet In-Reply-To: References: <000601c933dc$6a55a830$010aa8c0@N5KDA><000401c933e9$44a72110$6303a8c0@wa4ewv.net> <200810220606.m9M66ewW055456@iris.acsalaska.net> Message-ID: <48FED833.1070800@telia.com> Yes it is! After all it?s called amateur "radio" or ham "radio", internet is NO "radio". OR maybe I?m missing something too. Ohhh well, it?s a strange world we live in these days, or maybe I would call it silly instead. Back to the HF bands again. 73 Jim SM2EKM ------------------------- Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich) wrote: > "but without internet".... > > Someone sitting in Hawaii, but he cannot operate because he has no internet? > > Really??? One cannot operate because there is no internet available? > > Isn't that the real sense of amateur radio, getting communication even without internet? > Where did the situation go on digial modes meanwhile? > Or did I really miss something? > No, I am not old fashioned. I am among the 5 youngest age in EME, as we discovered in Florence... > > > 73, G?nter (dl4mea) > From dfaessler at bluewin.ch Wed Oct 22 09:55:13 2008 From: dfaessler at bluewin.ch (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dominique_F=E4ssler_=28HB9BBD=29?=) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:55:13 +0200 Subject: [Moon] Initials info: HB9HAL, HB9DGK and HB9PNR as well as K3JNZ In-Reply-To: <005401c933b4$6f591a10$4501a8c0@Al1> Message-ID: <48C8D25000CAA473@tr13.bluewin.ch> (added by postmaster@bluewin.ch) Hi EME friends The new EME station under the calls HB9HAL, HB9PNR, HB9DGK and HB9GR is all the same. HB9HAL, Christoph, has brought to life this EME site, previously used for other activities by some Swiss hams. It is my guess that Christoph is not aware of the clear distinction of what is an initial and the consequence of using various calls on the same station, primarily delicate during a contest. I will certainly talk to him and attract his attention to this important issue. I think that some of his colleques enthusiastically just enjoyed using their own calls for some QSO's which obviously may create confusion. I am sure that they did not want that. The call of this station might be in the future HB9HAL or HB9GR (club-call). Just returned from Kuwait and looking forward to the next activity weekend to have fun too! 73 HB9BBD Dominique From graham.d at orange.fr Wed Oct 22 10:00:59 2008 From: graham.d at orange.fr (graham) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:00:59 +0200 Subject: [Moon] [Moon-net] 2 meter WAS - Hawaii without internet In-Reply-To: <48FED833.1070800@telia.com> References: <000601c933dc$6a55a830$010aa8c0@N5KDA> <000401c933e9$44a72110$6303a8c0@wa4ewv.net> <200810220606.m9M66ewW055456@iris.acsalaska.net> <48FED833.1070800@telia.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20081022095114.01c16758@pop.orange.fr> hmmmmmmm, in order to save you all from yourselves....... In the UK we have a great urban legend (or maybe real incident) that describes this thread perfectly.....it dates back to 'troops in the field' The local front commander needs help so he passes the message .... " send reinforcements we are going to advance".... This message passes through various 'runners' , 'field stations', 'command posts' etc......the last messenger bursts through the headquarters door and breathlessly relays the final urgent message "send 3 and fourpence we are going to a dance".... ( for those non UK folks 3 and fourpence relates to pre decimal currency in shillings and pence, ie 3 shillings and 4 pence) So..... ..this is what was posted by the station in question and what you are 'discussing' ------insert------- Aloha to all, We have arrived at old Kapa'a, BL02bg. I have great echoes fo a single Yagi on 144. So I am QRV for the compitition. No WWW, NO ASSISTED (why is that class still valid?). I can monitor about 60 kCs of waterfall so will likely spend the second pass answering CQ's in the JT band..... Good luck to all, hope to complete with many of you. back to nap now, 73 Jeremy w7eme/kh6 BL02bg ------ end insert ------------- Graham F5VHX From sm5le at telia.com Wed Oct 22 10:35:39 2008 From: sm5le at telia.com (SM5LE) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:35:39 +0200 Subject: [Moon] SM0FOB 1296 EME staiton closed Message-ID: Hi Announcement : The small EME station at SM0FOB is closed. Dismounting already in progress. It was just an experimental set up for testing the mesh feed , and also ; Kjell/SM0FOB was on the moon for a short time. QSP from Sven SM5LE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081022/a640f4ca/attachment.htm From w5lua at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 22 16:26:29 2008 From: w5lua at sbcglobal.net (Al Ward) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:26:29 -0000 Subject: [Moon] [Moon-net] 2 meter WAS - Hawaii without internet In-Reply-To: <194766.13591.qm@web701.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c93452$2d993df0$4501a8c0@Al1> Jeremy I think it was just a misunderstanding of a previous message. Maybe a language barrier of sorts. I think he read it as you couldn't operate unless you had the internet. That is not how I read it. Best 73 Al -----Original Message----- From: moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net [mailto:moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net] On Behalf Of Jeremy Alexander Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:00 PM To: Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich); ext Edward Cole; MoonNet; moon at moonbounce.info Subject: Re: [Moon-net] 2 meter WAS - Hawaii without internet What is this Guenter, Are you addressing me? If so, do so. Who says I didn't operate. I have internet, just don't do the Loggers. WHAT IS your question, IS it to me or are you just venting on your own? Jeremy w7eme/kh6 BL02 "Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich)" wrote: Hello friends, I normally do not take care about people doing QSOs partly on loggers or whereever else. I for myself can really state that I am doing the QSOs only while sitting at the radio and not on the internet. I also have to admit that I am not aware about the doing on loggers, neither the operating techniques on digital modes. But this mail contains something, that makes me thinking: -----Original Message----- From: moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net [mailto:moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net] On Behalf Of ext Edward Cole Subject: Re: [Moon-net] 2 meter WAS I read everything that is on MoonNet. I was QRV about 0350-0700 utc 18 Oct. 2008 and worked 7 stations (3-initial). Jeremy was planning to operate in Hawaii, but without internet. I did not see him on but he runs only random on digital. "but without internet".... Someone sitting in Hawaii, but he cannot operate because he has no internet? Really??? One cannot operate because there is no internet available? Isn't that the real sense of amateur radio, getting communication even without internet? Where did the situation go on digial modes meanwhile? Or did I really miss something? No, I am not old fashioned. I am among the 5 youngest age in EME, as we discovered in Florence... 73, G?nter (dl4mea) _______________________________________________ Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are at http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html _______________________________________________ Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are at http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html From ww2r_eme at g4fre.com Wed Oct 22 16:43:26 2008 From: ww2r_eme at g4fre.com (ww2r_eme) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:43:26 -0500 Subject: [Moon] WW2R EME activity results In-Reply-To: <48FE118C.1080007@orange.fr> Message-ID: On 16 Oct worked K1RQG K2DH and a new initial from VE3KRP Results for the 1st leg of the contest 1296MHz I worked 40 stations. The new initials were DL0SHF, SV3AAF, K3JNZ/0 (1st usa initial for 12 months!) F6CGJ HB9HAL and F5FEN. CWNR W9IIX, NA4N, F5HRY, JA4BLC. Also heard JF3HWC, JA8ERE, JA6CCD. Conditions were good all weekend; even had an SSB qso with K1RQG. Worked more in 1st weekend than in whole contest last year 432MHz Dissapointing! CWNR VK3UM, DL7APV. Heard HB9Q UA3PTW, I1NDP and OH2PO. Could detect my echoes, must have been a polarisation issue not working anyone! This will probably be my last activity on 432 eme I will not be QRV in the 2nd leg as I will be visiting the UK for the Martlesham round table Dave WW2R http://g4fre.com/eme.htm From f2tu.philippe at orange.fr Wed Oct 22 17:21:15 2008 From: f2tu.philippe at orange.fr (F2TU Philippe) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:21:15 +0200 Subject: [Moon] [Moon-net] ARRL EME Contest In-Reply-To: <003e01c933ab$ac765470$4501a8c0@Al1> References: <003e01c933ab$ac765470$4501a8c0@Al1> Message-ID: <48FF44EB.1080708@orange.fr> Hello EMEers, My thought: With new developments, there are now 2 problems: 1 - The digital mode. 2 - More stations qrv on 1296 & above.The better, EME is not dead! Mix with digital CW is stupid: If they were separated, there would be more digital oms trying their luck on CW. This is the case with the European contest. And it is unacceptable to digital recording with CW. The 1296 MHz band is now very active and perhaps the most active. Therefore difficult to mix with 144 and 432 MHz. We must make a choice. 2304 MHz & above, more and more people and many are equipped with several bands on the difficulty of changing the feed. In conclusion, we must think about a best allotment of the bands and certainly over weekend .... But without the perigee limiting many windows. For the multi UHF band, it should be possible to agree on windows to 9 and 6cm where there are few people. The European contest rule is more logical to be classified in several bands. My example: do not contribute to the multi- all band , I thought very little part in the 1296 MHz, but given the extraordinary activity, I dived, hi! 73 Philippe PIERRAT - F2TU http://F2TU.perso.orange.fr Al Ward a ?crit : > Hello EMEers > > Well it certainly appears that the first weekend of the 1296 MHz and below > ARRL EME contest has produced record numbers on at least 1296 MHz. I hope > the same is true of the lower bands as well. Folks have indicated that the > number is probably over 90 and with many of us having attended Microwave > Update in Minneapolis, it sure appears that the number may rise to over 100 > once the November weekend is over. With the apparently all time high > participation, it sure seems counterproductive to boycott the ARRL contest. > Boycotting sends a clear message back to the ARRL that interest in EME must > be down based solely on contest submissions. Therefore, I suggest that we > all send our scores in and in addition, try once again to make our comments > known to the ARRL as changes that we would like to see made. After talking > to KX9X about soapbox comments he has received suggesting changes, he notes > that only about a half dozen or so really made suggestions for change in > their soapbox. In fact, some of the biggest complainers here on the moon > reflectors did not even submit suggestions for change. Keep in mind that > although there maybe some folks at the league "listening" to this reflector, > it takes more than complaining on this reflector to affect change. We must, > myself included, again make our suggestions known in our soap box reports as > to changes that we would like to see made. KX9X guarantees that our comments > will be sent to the VUAC who as I mentioned earlier is the group who > recommends changes to the Membership Services Committee and only then will > the changes be voted on. > > > > One suggestion would be that we have only one weekend set aside for 1296 MHz > and below on CW with the remaining weekend reserved for digital. I know that > this choice might leave the die hard CW types with nothing to do on the > normal second weekend but I don't see anyway around that unless we > incorporate in a December weekend. I personally would prefer two weekends > for CW as most CW types would probably like to have one weekend for 1296 and > the second for 432 or even 222 or 902 or 144. December normally gets voted > out due to the potential of very cold weather and not wanting to change > feeds or fix stuff in the cold. > > I am also going to suggest that we do obtain a second weekend for 2304 and > above as I was very busy trying to keep 5 microwave bands going in > September. The problem here is that the 2304 and above weekend does coincide > with the Italian contest, but the only other choices would be December or > August. Any thoughts? Also, if we do keep the 2304 and above weekend in > September then in order to get a second weekend for 2304 and above, I might > suggest two consecutive weekends for 2304 and above. One weekend would be > high declination and the other would be on the perigee side of high > declination. The lower declinations would also help our ever increasing > folks south of the equator to participate even more. This was already proved > out in September as the weekend following the EME contest was full of > activity and mostly from downunder. > > > > That's' my 2 cents for the moment. Please remember to send in your scores > and try once again to make your suggestions for improvements known. I would > like to see the system work and I am willing to work with KX9X and the VUAC > people to try to make this happen. > > > > I will be sending these comments on to KX9X at the league, so I guess if you > don't agree, you might want to send your comments in as well. Otherwise > nothing will ever change. > > EME in my mind is the best part of amateur radio and the fellowship that it > produces is just phenomenal as was proven in Florence. > > And I am not trying to defend the league on their past performance. Believe > me.as I have had some heated discussions with my very good friend Joel W5ZN, > league President, about how I think things should be. That is how strongly I > feel about at least trying to do things right by suggesting constructive > changes through the proper channels. Also keep in mind that KX9X is new to > this position and is trying to do the right things also. > > > > Looking forward to the next weekend on 1296. > > Best 73 > > Al W5LUA EM13qc > > _______________________________________________ > Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are at http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html > > > > From guenter.koellner at nsn.com Wed Oct 22 22:09:45 2008 From: guenter.koellner at nsn.com (Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich)) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:09:45 +0200 Subject: [Moon] Excuse to Jeremy, but still "QSO impossible without internet" In-Reply-To: <102251.54534.qm@web705.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <102251.54534.qm@web705.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello, Here are my official excues to Jeremy. You are doing a curageous job down there on the islands! My respect of doing it without internet. That came out a little bit wrong, I am not a native english speaker. If I would come to Dallas, you will get a bottle of real bavarian beer. The fact that still exists, and that is still sad: People complaining about not having had a QSO with Jeremy, and the reason is: Jeremy is not on the internet. So it goes to those not able doing real random operation, only internet assisted QSOs... Did I at leat get this correctly? 73, G?nter -----Original Message----- From: moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net [mailto:moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net] On Behalf Of ext Edward Cole Subject: Re: [Moon-net] 2 meter WAS I read everything that is on MoonNet. I was QRV about 0350-0700 utc 18 Oct. 2008 and worked 7 stations (3-initial). Jeremy was planning to operate in Hawaii, but without internet. I did not see him on but he runs only random on digital. "but without internet".... Someone sitting in Hawaii, but he cannot operate because he has no internet? Really??? One cannot operate because there is no internet available? Isn't that the real sense of amateur radio, getting communication even without internet? Where did the situation go on digial modes meanwhile? Or did I really miss something? No, I am not old fashioned. I am among the 5 youngest age in EME, as we discovered in Florence... 73, G?nter (dl4mea) _______________________________________________ Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are at http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html -------------- n?chster Teil -------------- Ein Dateianhang mit HTML-Daten wurde abgetrennt... 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First weekend 144, 432 & 1296 MHz Second weekend 432 MHz and 5.7 GHz and up Third weekend 144 MHz and 2.3 / 3.4 GHz Fourth weekend 1296 MHz They do not have to be in this order, but the advantage of this pairing is that the 144,432 and 1296 operators all get two shots and the microwave guys operations are divided between two weekends ( which is what we asked for after the experience of last September) Digital and analogue operation should take place at the same time in my opinion. How the scoring and classes are arranged is a separate issue. 73 Peter G3LTF -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081023/c9a87e94/attachment.htm From franco.cominelli at sidergarda.com Thu Oct 23 14:19:30 2008 From: franco.cominelli at sidergarda.com (Cominelli Franco) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:19:30 +0200 Subject: [Moon] R: Contest weekends Message-ID: <205208A153FD8F46A23A1AC5F3DCB5AA8F048B@server01.SIDERGARDA.local> Hello Peter, as told before, i don't agree only on your proposal to make Digital and analogue operation at the same time. Dubus and ARI contests, in the past rightly considered minor contest, have proved with major activity respect last ARRL (of course i'm talking about 144 mhz), that separate dates permit to those active in both modes, to be on, one time on analogue and one time on digital, with the benefit for all the participants for the concentration of the activity in only one mode. Obviously this is just my opinion and maybe the opinion of some other and we know that is quite impossible to satisfy everyone of us. At least ARRL has the only right to decide rules and dates. Active stations, like me, can only suggest a way for increase the activity for the maximum fun for all. Thank you for your attention. 73' Francesco,IK2DDR -----Messaggio originale----- Da: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info]Per conto di peter blair Inviato: gioved? 23 ottobre 2008 13.59 A: moonbounceboard; freetalk moonnet Oggetto: [Moon] Contest weekends Fellow EMErs. There are many bands now active ( hurrah!) but there are only so many weekends in spring and autumn....and we have other interests and families to consider. My proposal for pairing the bands in EME contests is as follows. First weekend 144, 432 & 1296 MHz Second weekend 432 MHz and 5.7 GHz and up Third weekend 144 MHz and 2.3 / 3.4 GHz Fourth weekend 1296 MHz They do not have to be in this order, but the advantage of this pairing is that the 144,432 and 1296 operators all get two shots and the microwave guys operations are divided between two weekends ( which is what we asked for after the experience of last September) Digital and analogue operation should take place at the same time in my opinion. How the scoring and classes are arranged is a separate issue. 73 Peter G3LTF -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081023/f92766b1/attachment.htm From sv3aaf at yahoo.com Thu Oct 23 17:56:22 2008 From: sv3aaf at yahoo.com (SV3AAF Petros) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Moon] Contest weekends In-Reply-To: <00d201c93506$ae0d6880$0200a8c0@D7BX6Z0J> Message-ID: <67847.98088.qm@web59104.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Dear All, Following Peter?s G3LTF proposal step by step and trying to be efficient here: 1.??? Not leave our families at their mercy for 12 weekends a year. 2.??? Not end up to the opposite result with a limited number of us motivated after the first few contest weekends. Mixing digital and analogue can be a big problem but with separate and clear enough rules (and working out the details) it maybe possible to focus on the bands that separating digital and analogue weekends is absolutely crucial and come up with a solution like the example below: First weekend:?????? 144 MHz digital, 432 & 1296 MHz Second weekend: 432 MHz and 5.7 GHz and up Third weekend:???? 144 MHz analogue and 2.3 / 3.4 GHz Fourth weekend:?? 1296 MHz On the multiband weekends we can also set ?operating preference band(s)? for each of the weekend?s days. I find this last one more necessary for the microwave bands. 73 Petros SV3AAF --- On Thu, 10/23/08, peter blair wrote: From: peter blair Subject: [Moon] Contest weekends To: "moonbounceboard" , "freetalk moonnet" Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 2:58 PM Fellow EMErs.? There are many bands now active ( hurrah!) but there are only so many weekends in spring and autumn....and we have other interests and families to consider. ?My proposal? for pairing the bands in EME contests is as follows. First weekend?????? 144, 432 & 1296 MHz Second weekend?432 MHz and 5.7 GHz and up Third weekend???? 144 MHz and 2.3 / 3.4 GHz Fourth weekend? ?1296 MHz They do not have to be in this order, but the advantage of this pairing is that the 144,432 and 1296 operators all get two shots? and the microwave guys operations?are divided between two weekends ( which is what we asked for after the experience of? last September) Digital and analogue operation should take place at the same time in my opinion. How the scoring and classes are arranged is a separate issue. ?73 Peter G3LTF -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081023/0218b707/attachment.htm From jimmyv at hol.gr Thu Oct 23 18:17:26 2008 From: jimmyv at hol.gr (jimmyv at hol.gr) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:17:26 +0300 Subject: [Moon] ARRL Contest weekends Message-ID: <20081023191726.t0s8yf2xno44kccc@easymail-app.hol.gr> Hi All I certainly agree with most of the points Petros SV3AAF raised. So as for ARRL EME event, to become a Radio EME Competition again in the future. A couple of differentiation points which are important in my view, are, though: First weekend (digital): 144 MHz, 432 & 1296 MHz Second weekend (analogue): 432 MHz and 2.3 / 3.4 GHz Third weekend (analogue): 144 MHz, 5.7 GHz and up Fourth weekend (analogue): 1296 MHz Finally, the presentation of mode sections' results and awards should be strictly separated in my view. Each mode section to have its own rules. If the above ever happens, i will be glad to participate again in the future. 73 Jimmy SV1BTR ----- Original Message ----- From: SV3AAF Petros To: moon at moonbounce.info ; g3ltf at btinternet.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [Moon] Contest weekends Dear All, Following Peter?s G3LTF proposal step by step and trying to be efficient here: 1. Not leave our families at their mercy for 12 weekends a year. 2. Not end up to the opposite result with a limited number of us motivated after the first few contest weekends. Mixing digital and analogue can be a big problem but with separate and clear enough rules (and working out the details) it maybe possible to focus on the bands that separating digital and analogue weekends is absolutely crucial and come up with a solution like the example below: First weekend: 144 MHz digital, 432 & 1296 MHz Second weekend: 432 MHz and 5.7 GHz and up Third weekend: 144 MHz analogue and 2.3 / 3.4 GHz Fourth weekend: 1296 MHz On the multiband weekends we can also set ?operating preference band(s)? for each of the weekend?s days. I find this last one more necessary for the microwave bands. 73 Petros SV3AAF From f2tu.philippe at orange.fr Thu Oct 23 19:35:59 2008 From: f2tu.philippe at orange.fr (F2TU Philippe) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:35:59 +0200 Subject: [Moon] Contest weekends In-Reply-To: <67847.98088.qm@web59104.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <67847.98088.qm@web59104.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4900B5FF.9020208@orange.fr> Dear All, This solution seems good, we are on the same plane as the European contest, which I called. We just have to use the same rule. 73 Philippe PIERRAT - F2TU http://F2TU.perso.orange.fr SV3AAF Petros a ?crit : > Dear All, > > Following Peter?s G3LTF proposal step by step and trying to be > efficient here: > > 1. Not leave our families at their mercy for 12 weekends a year. > 2. Not end up to the opposite result with a limited number of us > motivated after the first few contest weekends. > > Mixing digital and analogue can be a big problem but with separate and > clear enough rules (and working out the details) it maybe possible to > focus on the bands that separating digital and analogue weekends is > absolutely crucial and come up with a solution like the example below: > > First weekend: 144 MHz digital, 432 & 1296 MHz > Second weekend: 432 MHz and 5.7 GHz and up > Third weekend: 144 MHz analogue and 2.3 / 3.4 GHz > Fourth weekend: 1296 MHz > > On the multiband weekends we can also set ?operating preference > band(s)? for each of the weekend?s days. I find this last one more > necessary for the microwave bands. > > 73 Petros SV3AAF > > > --- On *Thu, 10/23/08, peter blair //* wrote: > > From: peter blair > Subject: [Moon] Contest weekends > To: "moonbounceboard" , "freetalk > moonnet" > Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 2:58 PM > > Fellow EMErs. There are many bands now active ( hurrah!) but > there are only so many weekends in spring and autumn....and we > have other interests and families to consider. > My proposal for pairing the bands in EME contests is as follows. > First weekend 144, 432 & 1296 MHz > Second weekend 432 MHz and 5.7 GHz and up > Third weekend 144 MHz and 2.3 / 3.4 GHz > Fourth weekend 1296 MHz > They do not have to be in this order, but the advantage of this > pairing is that the 144,432 and 1296 operators all get two shots > and the microwave guys operations are divided between two weekends > ( which is what we asked for after the experience of last September) > Digital and analogue operation should take place at the same time > in my opinion. How the scoring and classes are arranged is a > separate issue. > 73 Peter G3LTF > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Moon mailing list > Moon at moonbounce.info > http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon > > Please enter/update your standings: > http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html > > When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list From dl7apv at gmx.de Thu Oct 23 22:05:41 2008 From: dl7apv at gmx.de (Bernd Wilde) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:05:41 +0200 Subject: [Moon] Contest weekends In-Reply-To: <00d201c93506$ae0d6880$0200a8c0@D7BX6Z0J> References: <00d201c93506$ae0d6880$0200a8c0@D7BX6Z0J> Message-ID: <4900D915.1020200@gmx.de> Peter I agree partial, Im just started to collect the contest dates 2009. We have ssb contest 4xDubus contest 3xARI contest 3xarrl contest so far 11 weekends for contest. or 12 with 4x ARRL. We have max. 24 good weekends for EME. Thats 50% contest, but if we have every weekend a contest its nothing special anymore. I believe to concentrate the activty like we do on the CW-activity periods on 144&432 is the right choise. You see it always on the participation in the ARI contest. The DUBUS contest only getting more and more participations while the ARRL rules are so bad. 5 or 10 years ago all serious contester where active mostly or only in ARRL. The idea to seperate 70&23cm for a weekend is very atractive for me, so several 23cm guys can participate on 432 not loosing qso on 23cm. But I would vote for separate weekends digital/CW. As always in ARRL part 1 the major numbers of qso were logged and in ARRL 2 only a few qso were made. I like to run contests, but after one or 2 hours cq with no response everybody will loose the fun. Less is more I would say, my 432 opionon. 73 Bernd DL7APV peter blair schrieb: > Fellow EMErs. There are many bands now active ( hurrah!) but there > are only so many weekends in spring and autumn....and we have other > interests and families to consider. > My proposal for pairing the bands in EME contests is as follows. > First weekend 144, 432 & 1296 MHz > Second weekend 432 MHz and 5.7 GHz and up > Third weekend 144 MHz and 2.3 / 3.4 GHz > Fourth weekend 1296 MHz > They do not have to be in this order, but the advantage of this > pairing is that the 144,432 and 1296 operators all get two shots and > the microwave guys operations are divided between two weekends ( which > is what we asked for after the experience of last September) > Digital and analogue operation should take place at the same time in > my opinion. How the scoring and classes are arranged is a separate issue. > 73 Peter G3LTF > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Moon mailing list >Moon at moonbounce.info >http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon > > Please enter/update your standings: > http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html > > When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list > From k7xq at elite.net Fri Oct 24 08:19:35 2008 From: k7xq at elite.net (K7XQ) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:19:35 -0700 Subject: [Moon] K7XQ QRV 432 / 1296 this weekend Message-ID: <000001c935a0$809e5770$6801a8c0@k7xq> Wondering if anyone will be QRV this coming weekend. Moonrises here are 1230 UTC Sat, 1300 UTC Sunday. K7XQ Jeff Atwater,CA. Grid: CM97qi 144 MHz: 4 X M2 2MPX20 XPOL 20 dBd 1.5 kw single GS35b 432 MHz: 8 X M2 9 W.L. XPOL 27 dBd ,single GS-35b 1296 MHz: 3 meter dish 27 dBd 350 watts single water cooled GS-15 2304 MHz: 3 meter dish 32 dBd 180 watts SS Spectrain Amplifier 10368 MHz: 3 meter dish 45 dBd 20 watts Varian TWTA Amplifier K7XQ Webpage: http://www.elite.net/~k7xq/k7xq.html From la9nea at online.no Fri Oct 24 16:14:54 2008 From: la9nea at online.no (Viggo Magnus LA9NEA) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:14:54 +0200 Subject: [Moon] 1296 EME Message-ID: <258A4241E04E478D896B2EBE2C146F98@yourd2e589c81c> Hello 1296 EME operators. Plan to be qrv to morrow saturday 25 oct from approx 0900z. If any of you want to run sked pse send me an mail. Cq call 1296.015 73 Viggo LA9NEA LA9NEA 23 cm EME set up: Icom 756 pro II TR1296H trv Kuhne 6 x 7289 ring PA ,500 watt, MKU 13200B(spare PA) 250 watt SSPA, 5.3 meter dish, VE4MA Feed 1.stage preamp.Cavity NE32484 0.28 dB 2.stage Kuhne MGF 4953A 0.4 dB JO59dx Autotracking by W2DRZ, VK3UM tracking at screen. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081024/97e7250e/attachment.html From sm2bya at telia.com Sat Oct 25 16:17:39 2008 From: sm2bya at telia.com (SM2BYA, Gudmund) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:17:39 +0200 Subject: [Moon] SM3BYA 432 MHz activity in ARRL contest Message-ID: <49032A83.6060907@telia.com> Hi all, Didn't think I would be able to get on 432 for the contest this year, but eventually managed to reshuffle my work schedule so I could spend some days before and after last weekend at the farm. Was looking forward to some fun... BUT: Powering up the rig on Friday. TX, RX checked out OK but VSWR was lousy, about 2:1 at the TX, and only 5.5 dB sun noise... Figured this had something to do with the antenna (8x 21 elements arranged as two bays of 4x 21), Saturday morning climbed the tower, disconnected the cable from one of the two four-bays at the central 2:1 power divider, leaving the PD port open, Climbed down, rechecked the VSWR - now down to 1.6:1, so clearly something in the disconnected bay (probably the feed harness) had gone bad, Sun noise up a little, from 5.5 to 6 dB (this demonstrated clearly how a preamp can display fair noise performance over a wide range of source impedances), Realising there was no chance to fix the antenna in time for the contest (would have required lowering the whole array from 21 m to ground, a two-man/two-day job), I made up a lambda/4 transformer from a piece of 75-ohm RG-11, and also a shorting N plug. Climbed the tower again, inserted the transformer between the coax coming from the healthy antenna bay and the input to the power divider and shorted the other PD port using the shorting plug. Climbed down, checked the VSWR again. Lo and behold, now it was down below 1.1 - so transmission line theory held up to the practical test. However, sun noise did not increase more than marginally... Then got on the band Saturday night. Realised right away that my receiving performance was badly down, but spent several hours listening nevertheless. Copied a few stations that would have been new initials, e.g. I5CTE, UT3LL and others, but had a heck of a time getting through to people. TX power at SM3BYA is typically 550 watts at the antenna; with only half of the array in operation this simply didn't cut it in a contest. Eventually worked UA3PTW, DL7APV, VK3UM, JJ1NNJ and K1JT (K2UYH) just to give out some points. The whole experience was eerie - like suddenly having gone deaf. I later learned from the neighbours that at the end of September there had been two consecutive days of really bad weather, a rainstorm with gusts probably approaching 30 m/s. It is likely that this caused the CATV cable in the feed harness to vibrate so strongly that one or several N plugs fractured internally. This happened once before, in 1999. That time I was off the air for 18 months while the array was down for repairs - the whole arrangement is extremely maintenance-unfriendly and I've only myself to blame for constructing it like that in the first place. Don't feel like repeating that exercise again... So the next time you hear a signal from SM3BYA off the moon, it's likely to be on 1296 and/or 13cm! 73 Gudmund SM2BYA / SM3BYA From la9nea at online.no Sat Oct 25 17:12:44 2008 From: la9nea at online.no (Viggo Magnus LA9NEA) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:12:44 +0200 Subject: [Moon] 1296 eme activity report. Message-ID: Hello 1296 operators and others. Was qrv to day and worked this fine EME stations: SV1OE 559/519,K2DH 559/559,I5MPK 559/569 and VE3KRP 549/559, some windy conditions to day so have a bit trbl to point the antenna to the Moon. I reinstalled the W2DRZ autotracking also, it is updated with the last software and Z pulse board. 73 Viggo LA9NEA LA9NEA 23 cm EME set up: Icom 756 pro II TR1296H trv Kuhne 6 x 7289 ring PA ,500 watt, MKU 13200B(spare PA) 250 watt SSPA, 5.3 meter dish, VE4MA Feed 1.stage preamp.Cavity NE32484 0.28 dB 2.stage Kuhne MGF 4953A 0.4 dB JO59dx Autotracking by W2DRZ, VK3UM tracking at screen. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ersatzr?hren Messsender HP608C f?r nix (Spende f?r DL0UB/DM0HVL erw?nscht) schicke gerne Bilder 4x 9el tonna 2m 1 Jahr alt Selbstabholer 73 Bernd DL7APV From w7qx at msn.com Sun Oct 26 03:13:19 2008 From: w7qx at msn.com (Jerry Kleker) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:13:19 -0700 Subject: [Moon] Fw: [Mw] Final W7GBI (SK) Message-ID: FYI de W7QX ----- Original Message ----- From: Ted Hartson To: microwave at lists.valinet.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:21 AM Subject: [Mw] Final W7GBI (SK) This morning with a wisp of Moon overhead, Charlie's family gathered at my place near Flagstaff and buried his ashes. Not a bad place to end up; just under a marker where I would line up to work him on 10 GHz. There was a fly-by of 100+ sheep. 73 OM de Ted WA8ULG _______________________________________________ Microwave mailing list microwave at lists.valinet.com http://www.valinet.com/mailman/listinfo/microwave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081026/f37f04d5/attachment.htm From k2dh at frontiernet.net Sun Oct 26 21:32:52 2008 From: k2dh at frontiernet.net (Dave Hallidy) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:32:52 -0400 Subject: [Moon] FW: For Sale Message-ID: <09E564DB87C14AEE878ABCB2C324D4D0@DAVE> For sale- excess to my needs: N6CA single 7289/2C39 water-cooled amplifier for 1296 MHz. Completely built and functional, including chassis with cavity, filament, bias supplies, T/R switching (using 2 Transco "Y" relays), and separate HV supply. This unit will (and does) provide 150-180W output all day in CW/SSB service, with 10-12W drive. Included are numerous good tubes with water jackets, water pump. I use this amp as my primary EME amplifier, although it was planned to be just the driver (see below). $400, plus shipping. OE9PMJ-type single TH328 water-cooled amplifier for 1296 MHz. The N6CA amp was to be the driver for this one, to produce 400-500W output for EME or BIG tropo, with 30-40W drive (can use TH308, TH328, TH338, YU129, etc). Cavity and RF deck is complete, tested, and working. I have a "crappy" power supply for it which is complete, but the good one (0-2kV at 1.5A CCS) is under construction- both can be included, but you get the good pieces anyway. Also included are three guaranteed good TH328's- tested by HB9BBD (one has 10dB gain, one has 12dB, the third has 13dB gain- all produce full power). They need water jackets attached (included, easy job). Also included is the pump. $1200, plus shipping for cavity and both supplies, $1100, plus shipping if only the good supply parts are included. If you want me to finish building the good supply, let's talk. I'll also sell both the N6CA and the OE9PMJ (and power supplies) together for $1500, plus shipping. Qualcomm 10GHz power amplifier- completely converted and working well, it's now excess to my needs. 39dB gain, >1W output (more like 1.2W, but who's counting?). Includes Qualcomm power supply, all interface cables. $200, plus shipping. If interested, please contact me off list. k2dh at frontiernet dot net or 585-395-0571 Thanks! 73 Dave K2DH From gabercr at nc.rr.com Sun Oct 26 22:58:03 2008 From: gabercr at nc.rr.com (Gary Abercrombie) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:58:03 -0400 Subject: [Moon] EME related items Message-ID: <000a01c937b5$eb9c7f40$6901a8c0@augusta> I am cleaning out the shack and listed many EME related items on ebay (ending this evening): SSB Electronics LT-6S 50Mhz transverter LNA Technologies CAV432EME preamp WD5AGO 1296Mhz preamp (new) DB6NT 10ghz transverter kit (new - unfinished) Pair of DEMI 432 / 1296 preamps Timewave DSP59+ Assortment of Bird wattmeter slugs and directional couplers If interested, look at the following item then "View seller's other items". http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem &ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=160293805597 Gary, N8CQ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081027/d20ab838/attachment.htm From k2dh at frontiernet.net Tue Oct 28 02:55:06 2008 From: k2dh at frontiernet.net (Dave Hallidy) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:55:06 -0400 Subject: [Moon] [Mw] For Sale- UPDATE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7A22FA722A1142568A91EE7A0DDE1FA3@DAVE> The Qualcomm amp and supply and the 78GHz gear is spoken for. The 1296 amps are still available. For sale- excess to my needs: N6CA single 7289/2C39 water-cooled amplifier for 1296 MHz. Completely built and functional, including chassis with cavity, filament, bias supplies, T/R switching (using 2 Transco "Y" relays), and separate HV supply. This unit will (and does) provide 150-180W output all day in CW/SSB service, with 10-12W drive. Included are numerous good tubes with water jackets, water pump. I use this amp as my primary EME amplifier, although it was planned to be just the driver (see below). $400, plus shipping. OE9PMJ-type single TH328 water-cooled amplifier for 1296 MHz. The N6CA amp was to be the driver for this one, to produce 400-500W output for EME or BIG tropo, with 30-40W drive (can use TH308, TH328, TH338, YU129, etc). Cavity and RF deck is complete, tested, and working. I have a "crappy" power supply for it which is complete, but the good one is under construction- both can be included, but you get the good pieces anyway. Also included are three guaranteed good TH328's- tested by HB9BBD (one has 10dB gain, one has 12dB, the third has 13dB gain- all produce full power). They need water jackets attached (included, easy job). Also included is the pump. $1200, plus shipping for cavity and both supplies, $1100, plus shipping if only the good supply parts are included. If you want me to finish building the good supply, let's talk. I'll also sell both the N6CA and the OE9PMJ together for $1500, plus shipping. If interested, please contact me off list. k2dh at frontiernet dot net or 585-395-0571 Thanks! 73 Dave K2DH From conrad at g0ruz.com Wed Oct 29 16:06:00 2008 From: conrad at g0ruz.com (Conrad_G0RUZ) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:06:00 +0000 Subject: [Moon] Items for sale Message-ID: <49087BD8.4010809@g0ruz.com> I have the following 2.3 GHz equipment for sale at reduced prices. 1. MKU LNA 232 AH-HEMT dual stage N male in - new 120 GBP 2. PE1RKI 40W SSPA 28V with heatsink - new 75 GBP 3. SSB ELECTRONICS SP13B Super amp and DCW 2004 B Sequencer - new 180 GBP 4. 1.5M PA4FP prime focus mesh dish kit - new 120 GBP 5. DD7MH quad band ring feed (23,23,9 6cms) new 80 GBP I am open to offers but please be reasonable. I'll be putting the stuff on eBay soon, pictures are available. 73 Conrad G0RUZ From conrad at g0ruz.com Wed Oct 29 16:41:42 2008 From: conrad at g0ruz.com (Conrad_G0RUZ) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:41:42 +0000 Subject: [Moon] FS: EME HF402 Message-ID: <49088436.2030301@g0ruz.com> I have an HF402 relay for sale, ideal for Xpol setups. I have never used this relay for QRO it has had 100W on 23cms through it in a contest for about 3 hours, it has had no other use. I would like 160 GPB for it. Conrad G0RUZ From Bruinier at t-online.de Thu Oct 30 10:02:00 2008 From: Bruinier at t-online.de (Johann Bruinier) Date: 30 Oct 2008 09:02 GMT Subject: [Moon] A43DLH last call Message-ID: <1KvTQ3-0PENEW0@fwd04.aul.t-online.de> Frank DL8YHR is leaving for A4 this coming Tuesday and expects to be operational on Wednesday Nov-05. He's trying to compose a sked list and still awaits requests (e.g. from SM2CEW, OZ4MM et al.). 70cm operation is planned on 432,050; A43DLH first one minute periods. WSJT calls on same QRG, signals visible on Spectran. He has 700w into a 38el M2 and pol adjustment. Pse address Frank directly GL & 73! Jan DL9KR. From conrad at g0ruz.com Thu Oct 30 14:50:07 2008 From: conrad at g0ruz.com (Conrad_G0RUZ) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:50:07 +0000 Subject: [Moon] FS: 2m eme stuff Message-ID: <4909BB8F.2030005@g0ruz.com> Hello again further searching revealed the following: 1. RF Ham ATF series based LNA designed by F5VHX 0.35 dB NF 22 dB gain 80 GBP 2. KI3W stripline based 2m low pass filter 2.5KW handling Insertion loss 0.05 dB 30 GBP 3. PA3CSG QRO Low pass filter for 144 MHz with 7/16 connectors 80 GBP 4. Bird 2500C 2.5kW plug in for model 43 80 GBP All plus shipping, I have another similar LNA but I have 'mislaid' it. I also have a few more Bird plug ins. Conrad G0RUZ PS this sale is due to a reduced salary after a prolonged illness, I have no choice! From conrad at g0ruz.com Thu Oct 30 19:07:43 2008 From: conrad at g0ruz.com (Conrad_G0RUZ) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:07:43 +0000 Subject: [Moon] email problems Message-ID: <4909F7EF.3050603@g0ruz.com> If anyone has tried to email me since 00:00 UTC on 30/10/2008 the email will not have got through. Unfortunately I forgot to renew my domain g0ruz.com, this is now fixed I believe so please try again. 73 Conrad G0RUZ From vestergaard at os.dk Thu Oct 30 20:07:36 2008 From: vestergaard at os.dk (Vestergaard) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:07:36 +0100 Subject: [Moon] Forsale: 70CM GS35b cavity Message-ID: <000001c93ac2$e931a0e0$bb94e2a0$@dk> I have a 70CM GS35b cavity for sale, as I will never get use of it here in my shack. Would be better if others can use the cavity and become QRV on 70CM EME?. It's a Russian cavity and 2 * GS35b tubes will follow. Let me know if any interest. Photo on request. Stig, OZ4MM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081030/c1080d53/attachment.htm From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Oct 23 21:51:08 2008 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:51:08 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Having lived in Sweden myself, I am sure I am going to change you mind but = I hope you will keep up your very informative EME pages. If there is a problem with hosting, I will be happy to host your content. I= believe many will be interested to see you instructive pages remain on the WEB. 73 Rein PA0ZN. -----Original Message----- >From: SM5LE >Sent: Nov 20, 2008 1:26 AM >To: Moonbounce , MOON_NET >Cc: SM0FOB , "SM0DXG, Anders" ,= Al Katz , sm5iot at telia.com >Subject: [Moon] SM5LE are now QRT EME > >Hi all > >I just want to announce that me ; SM5LE are now QRT EME and 50 MHz etc. >It is my normal "hobby ration"; Swedish folk music and amateur radio in ~= 10 years periods. >A lot of stuff are going to be sold out , but for pick up in Stockholm onl= y. > >For Sweden; pse look at http://www.dx-radio.se/ under "Elelktroniktorget"= . >"Continuously upgrading". Small packages can be sent by post if the postag= e paid by the recipient > > >Pse don't be sad (I am) all you EME people are so very much kind in all wa= ys . > > >73 CU next time. > >Sven SM5LE > > >ps to Chris SM0IOT : Krille , ska Du k=C3=B6pa parran med stativ/rotor/mat= are/LNA/mm ? :-) >