[Moon] EME contests!!!!!

[graham]

Lars,

Good morning....

>How should we handle this topic? Digital vs Analog.


We did already....

like this....... http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2007/eme.html


>As I see it there is only one solution, separate contests,

what you mean like this  ?

http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2007/eme.html


Quote..........well not quite a quote I highlighted with "^^" for those 
with reading difficulties........

5.3 Operating Categories. Assisted operation, as defined in Section 3.5, is 
allowed only for those operating classes that state "Assisted".
    * 5.3.1 Single Operator, Analog Mode
    *                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    * 5.3.2 Single Operator, Digital Mode
    *                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    * 5.3.3 Single Operator, Mixed Mode
    * 5.3.4 Single Operator, Mixed Mode, Assisted. This category is 
intended to encourage smaller stations and operators who may be new to EME. 
It applies only to single-band operation on 144, 432, or 1296 MHz.
    * 5.3.5 Multi Operator, Analog Mode
    *                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    * 5.3.6 Multi Operator, Digital Mode
    *                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    * 5.3.7 Multi Operator, Mixed Mode
    * 5.3.8 Multi Operator, Mixed Mode, Assisted. This category is intended 
to encourage smaller stations and operators who may be new to EME. It 
applies only to single-band operation on 144, 432, or 1296 MHz.
Un-Quote........

hmmmmmm, your problem is ???????????


>separate rules in aspect of DXCC.

this is still on-going...shouting and name calling are not helping the 
processes

>If we get those changes

you got them, did you read them ?, in case not here it is

http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2007/eme.html

(btw , you contributed nothing except abuse to the proceesses as they took 
place, so consequently your voice was not heard/ignored )


>it dosent matter in" my eyes" if someone operates assisted or not, as long 
>as the diploma tells the category.

what you mean like this

http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2007/eme.html

Quote.......... well not just quote I highlighted the relevant 
........"diploma tells the story".......... parts with "^^"

    * 9.1 Certificates will be issued to the top three station worldwide in 
each of the following operating categories.
        * 9.1.1 Single operator multiband, 50 - 1296 MHz, separate awards 
for Analog, Digital,
        * 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        *  and Mixed Mode.
        * 9.1.2 Single operator multiband, 2304 MHz and Up.
        * 9.1.3 Single operator all band, separate awards for Analog, 
Digital, and Mixed Mode.
        * 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        * 9.1.4 Single operator single band; separate awards for each band, 
and for Analog, ^
        * 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        * Digital, and Mixed Mode on the 50-1296 MHz bands.
        * ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        * 9.1.5 Single operator single band, Mixed Mode, Assisted, separate 
awards for 144, 432, and 1296 MHz.
        * 9.1.6 Multi-operator multiband, 50 - 1296 MHz, separate awards 
for Analog, Digital, 
and                                ^ 
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        * Mixed Mode.
        * 9.1.7 Multi-operator multiband, 2304 MHz and Up.
        * 9.1.8 Multi-operator all band, separate awards for Analog, 
Digital, and Mixed Mode. ^
        * 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        * 9.1.9 Multi-operator single band, separate awards for Analog, 
Digital, and Mixed Mode
        * 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        *  on each band.
        * 9.1.10 Multi-operator single band, Mixed Mode, Assisted, separate 
awards for 144, 432, and 1296 MHz.
    * 9.2 Additional awards will be issued where significant achievement or 
competition is evident.
    * 9.3 Each station that successfully completes at least one EME contact 
during the contest period will receive a certificate commemorating that 
achievement.
Un-Quote........

hmmmmmmm, your problem is ??

(beyond 9.1.5 which unfortunately is poorly worded and although the 
sentiment of attracting newcomers was good, the reality of entries in that 
category is likely to be 'abuse')

If the above two sections are not enough seperation for you then please 
take the time to re-write them , point by point and post your draft here so 
that we in the community can all review what it is you really want...... ?

You might find it helpful if you can try to EXCLUDE your favorite words and 
sentiments expressed to date which can be summarised in the short sentance 
of  " digital is shit " in your paper.

Out of interest the 2007 ARRL rules contain the word 'seperate'  8  times 
in the context you are interested in. If  that is not enough then please do 
your best to improve it.

I look forward to seeing your proposals..........

Graham F5VHX