From frankddr at tele2.it Mon Dec 1 14:01:11 2008 From: frankddr at tele2.it (frankddr at tele2.it) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:01:11 +0100 Subject: [Moon] Could DUBUS release a valid award, instead ARRL? Why not? Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081201/44deeb05/attachment.htm From dl1ymk at aol.com Mon Dec 1 17:10:24 2008 From: dl1ymk at aol.com (dl1ymk at aol.com) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:10:24 -0500 Subject: [Moon] 13cm EA8 Message-ID: <8CB21E673F34667-13F8-3BD@webmail-mf11.sysops.aol.com> Hi Anders, ....CT also does not grant legal permits on 13cm.... :-( I tried it....... So, EA is not the only European country with no ham allocation on 13cm. A lot of people?tend to?assume that CEPT is a quasi guarantee for being able to use all the bands they are used to operate on in their home countries...far from that! In most European countries CEPT only covers HF and 2m/70cm - often VHF/UHF with largely reduced power levels ;-) compared to?residential licenses. This is what makes portable EME very difficult - I've got some experience with it... 73 de Michael, DL1YMK ________________________________________________________________________ AOL eMail auf Ihrem Handy! Ab sofort k?nnen Sie auch unterwegs Ihre AOL email abrufen. Registrieren Sie sich jetzt kostenlos. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081201/a1f0cdc9/attachment.htm From jjm_f1ehn at wanadoo.fr Mon Dec 1 20:13:49 2008 From: jjm_f1ehn at wanadoo.fr (jjm) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:13:49 +0100 Subject: [Moon] Photos database of EME antennas available (new package 20081030) Message-ID: <9217DCBDE7854961AF3C52392A037B9F@P4JJB> Dear EMErs, Thank you for the numerous emails to support this feature. I am pleased to inform you that a new package of the Photos database of EME antennas and its documentation are now available on my web site (download page). The new zipped package "20081030" of the 30th of November 2008 includes: Band (number of photos): EME_6m (6) EME_2m (35) EME_1.25m (1) EME_70cm (24) EME_23cm (39) EME_13cm (12) EME_9cm (3) EME_6cm (5) EME_3cm (18) EME_1.2cm (4) I will regularly update the database so if you wish to add your photo, please send it via email + info as indicated below: - a photo of your antenna (1 per band) (640*480 pxl or more) - a comment / title of this photo (ex : F6KSX 3cm - 3.3m dish) - latitude and longitude of the antenna** - your grid square (locator) - the nearest city to check the location of the photo - web site ? More information on my web site. Thank you. Best 73. JJ F1EHN http://www.f1ehn.org ** Because a few people asked me about that, you can keep "secret" the exact position of your antenna with giving only the grid square or approximated lat/lon (like for a QSO or QSL card....) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081201/afb918d9/attachment.htm From rbiggar at ihug.co.nz Tue Dec 2 09:11:36 2008 From: rbiggar at ihug.co.nz (Ross) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:11:36 +1300 Subject: [Moon] 23cm question Message-ID: <29953F8814EA4D8DB7DD353B4D46539F@RossBeast> I understand that "assisted" contacts are frowned upon for some reson. But when you are trying to set up a station, they are a great help. I am now receiving with my 4.5m dish on 23cm. With a sun noise of about 15db. Tx will be a little while. So is there a reflector where I can find out what 23cm stations are on and which frequency is being used so I can see if the system works. ??? (I am used to the 2m EME reflector and it is a great help.) Regards Ross ZL1WN -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081202/ed27371e/attachment.htm From franco.cominelli at sidergarda.com Tue Dec 2 09:25:17 2008 From: franco.cominelli at sidergarda.com (Cominelli Franco) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:25:17 +0100 Subject: [Moon] R: 23cm question Message-ID: <205208A153FD8F46A23A1AC5F3DCB5AA8F04DB@server01.SIDERGARDA.local> Hello Ross, outside of a Contest, i think that you can use everything that could help you to optimize your eme station, but often, some operator forget that a valid contact, to be real, must be done using only the radio setup, over the cooperation of the Moon,hi,hi. It seems to me very poor that nowadays, with the actual technology, someone need to use internet during the contest, impoverishing the value of our mode to make radio. Of course this is only my 2 cent opinion, over the opinion of about all the people (except a couple), present at the Florence eme Conference. I have not 23 cm experience, but one reason because i have a the dream to setup, one day, a station there, is exactly because it seems to me that the majority of 23 cm operators, work only with real radio, there. 73' Francesco,IK2DDR -----Messaggio originale----- Da: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info]Per conto di Ross Inviato: marted? 2 dicembre 2008 9.12 A: moon at moonbounce.info Oggetto: [Moon] 23cm question I understand that "assisted" contacts are frowned upon for some reson. But when you are trying to set up a station, they are a great help. I am now receiving with my 4.5m dish on 23cm. With a sun noise of about 15db. Tx will be a little while. So is there a reflector where I can find out what 23cm stations are on and which frequency is being used so I can see if the system works. ??? (I am used to the 2m EME reflector and it is a great help.) Regards Ross ZL1WN -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081202/6cc58a16/attachment-0001.htm From rbiggar at ihug.co.nz Tue Dec 2 09:31:40 2008 From: rbiggar at ihug.co.nz (Ross) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:31:40 +1300 Subject: [Moon] Internet Message-ID: I do not want to start a discussion regarding the use of internet, for contacts. I only wish to know is there a website for 23cm contacts. I already use the normal website for my 2m and 70cm contacts and friends, so I am well used to the gentleman ethics regarding contacts. Ross ZL1WN -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081202/ebcb31f4/attachment.htm From franco.cominelli at sidergarda.com Tue Dec 2 09:37:01 2008 From: franco.cominelli at sidergarda.com (Cominelli Franco) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:37:01 +0100 Subject: [Moon] R: Internet Message-ID: <205208A153FD8F46A23A1AC5F3DCB5AA8F04DC@server01.SIDERGARDA.local> Ross, excuse me for my misunderstanding, due my bad english. I have made a mistake and i have no problem to admit it. I hope to work you again on eme in somewhere, but at the moment i'm active only on 2m. Congrats for your 4,5 m dish. I'll read your results and all the improvements that you could make on your 23 cm station. 73' Francesco -----Messaggio originale----- Da: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info]Per conto di Ross Inviato: marted? 2 dicembre 2008 9.32 A: moon at moonbounce.info Oggetto: [Moon] Internet I do not want to start a discussion regarding the use of internet, for contacts. I only wish to know is there a website for 23cm contacts. I already use the normal website for my 2m and 70cm contacts and friends, so I am well used to the gentleman ethics regarding contacts. Ross ZL1WN -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081202/302787d7/attachment.htm From pa3cwn at tele2.nl Tue Dec 2 10:01:38 2008 From: pa3cwn at tele2.nl (Oene) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:01:38 +0100 Subject: [Moon] Could DUBUS release a valid award, instead ARRL? Why not? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4934F972.6040303@tele2.nl> Hello Francesco, I think it is worth investigating; then count every state in USA also as a seperate country, get rid of a bunch of reefs and 'square metre so called countries' and sets the awarding at 200 instead of 100, bringing the challange back again for many. Make separate classes i.e Mixed Mode, CW only, JT65 with DS, JT65 w/o DS, so everyone feels fine in his/her class. 73 Oene PA3CWN frankddr at tele2.it schreef: > Hello all, > after lot of Conferences, suggestions,debates and so on, it seems to > me that at ARRL, there isn't the project to separate > eme Contests,between Analog and Digital,awards and so on and cancel > the ASSISTED Cat. . With full respect of all, associations,operators > and independently by the mode, i ask as follow: > > Why now that the eme activity is substantially made by the europeans, > we don't ask to DUBUS if there is the possibility for them, to release > the eme AWARDS (DXCC and so on), instead of ARRL? > If we check eme activity on last 5 years, we can see that there is a > very lack of US station, during eme contests. For sure there are good > reasons for it, but unfortunately it seems that ARRL don't want to > hear our suggestions and maybe they could maintain this situation for > long and long time, boring those operators that would like some change > and staying with this situation prefer to go to fishing. > > What's your opinion? > > 73' Francesco,IK2DDR > > > * > > E-mailbericht gecontroleerd door Internet Security (5.5.1.322) > Databaseversie: 5.11240e > http://www.pctools.com/internet-security/ > > * > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Moon mailing list > Moon at moonbounce.info > http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon > > Please enter/update your standings: > http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html > > When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list > > > > E-mailbericht gecontroleerd door Internet Security (5.5.1.322) > Databaseversie: 5.11240e > http://www.pctools.com/nl/internet-security/ > From g3ltf at btinternet.com Tue Dec 2 11:04:47 2008 From: g3ltf at btinternet.com (peter blair) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:04:47 -0000 Subject: [Moon] Assisted....some history Message-ID: <3122850A836D4BAAB83BA8240027F7AE@D7BX6Z0J> Just for interest..... In the early 1970s when Dick Turrin , W2IMU and the Holmdel gang were running W2NFA from the 60ft dish at Crawford Hill NJ, they used to have a phone patch to a big station on 14MHz at Atlantic Highlands, I cant recall his call but he was originally from PA0,and he would transmit info on 14MHz real time .... like " we cant hear you are you sure you're pointing at the moon?" He also relayed the received signals and we would have these on the speaker in the shack at the LTF end and, of course a 2.5 second delayed sidetone completely screws up your sending. Most of the time though we ran without this but it was good for those early days of testing. When you are starting up with a new system real time feedback is a great help. HAVE FUN! 73 Peter G3LTF -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I only wish to know is there a website for 23cm contacts. ? I already use the normal website for my 2m and 70cm contacts and friends, so I am well used to the gentleman ethics regarding contacts. ? Ross ZL1WN ?_______________________________________________ Moon mailing list Moon at moonbounce.info http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon Please enter/update your standings: http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081202/1d466db3/attachment.htm From jimmyv at hol.gr Tue Dec 2 18:28:57 2008 From: jimmyv at hol.gr (jimmyv at hol.gr) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:28:57 +0200 Subject: [Moon] 23cm question Message-ID: <20081202192857.n05zz5dn9c08448o@easymail-app.hol.gr> Hi Ross CW ops on 2m-23cm that i know of, since i am active on these bands, love to work purely on random, without chats, real time help etc. With the sun noise you are getting which is excellent, and even for someone getting 7db less there is no true need of any chat. With much less sun noise i am getting from my 3.6m dish, i remember last December i just started doing echo tests (audible) on a weekend with 90w at feed and suddenly worked 6 stations who started calling....it was amazing! Following months while i was improving the station, i recall calling CQ or answering CQ's during high declination weekends, without anyone pre-announcing anything, and each time working 15-35 stations in a few hrs... Frequencies normally used are 1296.005-1296.025 . As Petros SV3AAF suggested, sending an announcement to moonbounce reflector can help people know you are active. As your moon window to different continents for example, is usually outside the normal prime time of activity. But that shouldn't discourage you or stop you! Moreover, to get started with, if this make you feel more confident, you can send a message to moonbounce reflector and request for cw skeds. GL & 73 Jimmy SV1BTR ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross To: moon at moonbounce.info Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: [Moon] 23cm question I understand that "assisted" contacts are frowned upon for some reson. But when you are trying to set up a station, they are a great help. I am now receiving with my 4.5m dish on 23cm. With a sun noise of about 15db. Tx will be a little while. So is there a reflector where I can find out what 23cm stations are on and which frequency is being used so I can see if the system works. ??? (I am used to the 2m EME reflector and it is a great help.) Regards Ross ZL1WN From rein0zn at ix.netcom.com Wed Dec 3 00:04:21 2008 From: rein0zn at ix.netcom.com (rein0zn at ix.netcom.com) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:04:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Moon] 432 and Above EME Newsletter for Dec 2008 Message-ID: <20337854.1228259061347.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hello All, The 432 MHz and Above EME Newsletter for Dec 2008 by Al, K2UYH is at: http://www.nitehawk.com/rasmitt/em70cm.html All about the ARRL contest results. Enjoy and best Season Wishes, 73 Rein, W6SZ From rein0zn at ix.netcom.com Wed Dec 3 06:02:12 2008 From: rein0zn at ix.netcom.com (rein0zn at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 00:02:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Moon] Corrections in Dec 2008 EME Newsletter Message-ID: <32823598.1228280532818.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hello All, Per 06:00 UTC, I have posted a new set of Newsletter files. The changes are in the "High Scores" section for 432 MHz CW scores. http://www.nitehawk.com/rasmit/em70cm.html 73 Rein W6SZ From rein0zn at ix.netcom.com Wed Dec 3 06:07:52 2008 From: rein0zn at ix.netcom.com (rein0zn at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 00:07:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Moon] Corrections in Dec 2008 EME Newsletter Message-ID: <33403585.1228280872701.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hello All, Per 06:00 UTC, I have posted a new set of Newsletter files. The changes are in the "High Scores" section for 432 MHz CW scores. http://www.nitehawk.com/rasmit/em70cm.html 73 Rein W6SZ From rein0zn at ix.netcom.com Thu Dec 4 06:29:44 2008 From: rein0zn at ix.netcom.com (rein0zn at ix.netcom.com) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:29:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Moon] Updated top scores for ARRL EME contest ( Newsletter ) Message-ID: <1586249.1228368584711.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hello All, For those interested, Al, K2UYH had again to update the Newsletter for Dec 2008 due to the receipt of new scoring data. Again, the files have been changed per 06:00 UTC http://www.nitehawk.com/rasmit/em70cm.html 73 Rein, W6SZ From g3ltf at btinternet.com Sat Dec 6 09:33:08 2008 From: g3ltf at btinternet.com (peter blair) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:33:08 -0000 Subject: [Moon] Fw: [Moon-net] UHF: 23cm feed question Message-ID: <9F260FD32DF24A6090EB2A90EB68DD7D@D7BX6Z0J> I believe this will be of interest to those who do not see moon-net. (to those who see both reflectors please excuse the bandwidth) 73 Peter G3LTF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Wade W1GHZ" To: "peter blair" ; "DEHAYS Dominique" ; "Dmitry Dmitriev" Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 4:29 AM Subject: Re: [Moon-net] UHF: 23cm feed question Dmitry's latest feed looks very good indeed. the septum polarizer is excellent and could be used with other horns as well. I've done a short writeup: http://www.w1ghz.org/new/RA3AQ_Septum_Feed_Simulations.pdf 73 paul From pa3cwn at tele2.nl Sat Dec 6 18:56:43 2008 From: pa3cwn at tele2.nl (Oene) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:56:43 +0100 Subject: [Moon] [Moon-net] Best band for EME? In-Reply-To: <220467.5120.qm@web45302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <220467.5120.qm@web45302.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <493ABCDB.3000203@tele2.nl> Hello Harold, I would go for 23cm if you like CW the most and think 2m band is the best choice for working JT65b. CW activity is running dry on 2m band and 23 cm seems the band to go for. On 2m JT65 is very popular and there is a majority of stations that do not have 23 cm capability (like myself). Good luck with your choice and hope we meet one day ! 73 Oene PA3CWN Harold Deitz schreef: > I am new to the EME crowd and will be putting together a moon bounce station soon. Before I spend a lot of money, what band would be the best? > > Hal - W5GHZ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are at http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html > > > > > > E-mailbericht gecontroleerd door Internet Security (5.5.1.322) > Databaseversie: 5.11280e > http://www.pctools.com/nl/internet-security/ > . > > From rbiggar at ihug.co.nz Sat Dec 6 22:21:01 2008 From: rbiggar at ihug.co.nz (Ross) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 10:21:01 +1300 Subject: [Moon] Antenna gain Message-ID: <66192C9901DC4253BB24273B48E1747A@RossBeast> I want to make a couple of 70cm antennas,(just to learn something about antenna building), and I would like to see the differences in gain. Can some-one please recommend the best method of measuring gain, how I go about it, and what I need. Thanks Ross ZL1WN -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081207/a772fd8a/attachment.htm From davcut at maltanet.net Sun Dec 7 12:08:42 2008 From: davcut at maltanet.net (David Cutajar) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:08:42 +0100 Subject: [Moon] qrv on 432 mhz 7th dec from moonrise Message-ID: <493BAEBA.6080408@maltanet.net> Hi all I have a small time to be qrv maybe till 17.00 utc on 432mhz cw mode .Was wondering if any chance from a big station from VK/JA maybe will be qrv.in any case i am on HB9Q logger also or drop me mail. 73`s David 9h1tx 4x 25el 120w From john.peters at iae.nl Thu Dec 11 10:35:55 2008 From: john.peters at iae.nl (John Peters) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:35:55 +0100 Subject: [Moon] For the Dutch people here on the list Message-ID: Hi, Starting dec 18 Lidl Electronic Level is for sale 24.99 Euro http://www.lidl.nl/nl/home.nsf/pages/c.o.20081218.p.Elektronische_waterpas Voor de Nederlanders hier op de lijst, Vanaf 18 Dec is bij de lidel de electronische waterpas weer in de aanbieding zie link hierboven. Mocht je digitale Elevatie uitlezing willen gaan bouwen op je VHF-UHF systeem 73! De John PA5MS From jjm_f1ehn at wanadoo.fr Thu Dec 11 18:52:58 2008 From: jjm_f1ehn at wanadoo.fr (jjm) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:52:58 +0100 Subject: [Moon] Nostalgia Message-ID: 20 years ago.. Andorra : first EME expedition of F6KSX group : http://pagesperso-orange.fr/f1ehn/pages_f6ksx/eme1988.htm Center of France 3 months later : http://pagesperso-orange.fr/f1ehn/pages_f6ksx/eme1988a.htm 73. F6KSX group. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On the TX-board at the far left corner (when sitting in front of the rig) very close to the AC input terminal, there is a 4 wire connector located : called J08 The wire next to the brown wire is the SEND line. Attach the collector of the transistor to this point and connect the emittor to ground. The base of this transistor is now your TX-inhibit line and placing a voltage on this, will prevent RF power output till the base goes 'low' again. You can bring this TX-line to the CAT DIN jack at the bacside of the transceiver where pin 5 is free and not connected. Now you have a TX inhibit immediately available. This tx inhibit line is usefull in combination with a sequencer and I.E. W6PQL is also refering to this TX inhibit at his sequencer page. Good luck with this modification. It's joy is it's simplicity Vy 73 Oene PA3CWN From TexasRF at aol.com Thu Dec 11 19:28:33 2008 From: TexasRF at aol.com (TexasRF at aol.com) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:28:33 EST Subject: [Moon] Yaesu FT-736R TX inhibit Message-ID: The FT736R has no TX inhibit but you can add one with a minor modification. I made this modification to my unit several years ago and it has served well. If you look at the schematic diagram, there is an orange wire connected to the TX Power control potentiometer. If you short this wire to chassis, the power output will reduce to zero. An easy no holes added way to do this is done by removing the Electronic Keyer module and using one of keyer paddle pins to connect to the orange wire. The keyer paddle jack is two circuits, one for keying the radio and the second for the TX inhibit connection. The orange wire passes near the keyer jack and can be connected directly to the pin. To use the TX inhibit, you will need a circuit that grounds the keyer jack connection on receive and holds the ground for a short time when switching to transmit. In my station, I use a power Mosfet to do the grounding when the 8v ptt line is connected to the Mosfet gate. There is a resistor in series with the gate connection and a small capacitor from gate to ground to set the delay time. There are other ways to do this so use your own imagination! 73, Gerald K5GW In a message dated 12/11/2008 12:06:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, pa3cwn at tele2.nl writes: Hello All, Because I had to change my sequencing, I wondered if the older Yaesu FT-736R was also capable of some kind of TX inhibit which modern Yaesu transceivers have. TX inhibit is a point, with some voltage applied to it, that prevents RF Output, even if the trx is keyed and the TX led burns red. It is most commonly found in the schematics in the neighbourhood for an external antenna tuner and i.e. with a FT100 it is one pin at the pigtail cable. In fact the FT-736R is very simple to modify for a TX inhibit. Only one simple transistor i.e BC547 is necessary for this. On the TX-board at the far left corner (when sitting in front of the rig) very close to the AC input terminal, there is a 4 wire connector located : called J08 The wire next to the brown wire is the SEND line. Attach the collector of the transistor to this point and connect the emittor to ground. The base of this transistor is now your TX-inhibit line and placing a voltage on this, will prevent RF power output till the base goes 'low' again. You can bring this TX-line to the CAT DIN jack at the bacside of the transceiver where pin 5 is free and not connected. Now you have a TX inhibit immediately available. This tx inhibit line is usefull in combination with a sequencer and I.E. W6PQL is also refering to this TX inhibit at his sequencer page. Good luck with this modification. It's joy is it's simplicity Vy 73 Oene PA3CWN _______________________________________________ Moon mailing list Moon at moonbounce.info http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon Please enter/update your standings: http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In the morning I will look for all the US and Canadian stations and especially W6 and W7 and Western VE at the end of my window. I will mostly tune up and down the band looking for stations but also call CQ ocasionly. I do not have a favorite frequency, but will probably call a bit up the band (25 to 40 kHz) The weather forecast looks favorable here for both Saturday and Sunday. Mostly clear sky, low winds and about zero degrees C. I do look forward to work you all. 73 and GL. -- Ingolf, SM6FHZ http://www.2ingandlin.se/SM6FHZ.htm ------=_Part_149459_4437146.1229022701574 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Fellow 23 cm moonbouncers.
 
I plan to be active on 23 cm EME during the December AW, starting at my moon rise Saturday 13th.
 
I will look carefully for any W6, W7, VE7 (VE6? also) and KL7 with possible moon window for the long path to Europe for the first hour and a half of usable moon at my QTH (1600z to 1730Z). Any ZL's are welcome as well.
 
From there on I will carefully look for VK's and JA's until their moon set. Europeans can be worked at any time.
 
I plan to take a rest during a part of the night and be on again from 0200Z until the moon disappears behind the trees at 0630Z Sunday morning. In the morning I will look for all the US and Canadian stations and especially W6 and W7 and Western VE at the end of my window.
 
I will mostly tune up and down the band looking for stations but also call CQ ocasionly. I do not have a favorite frequency, but will probably call a bit up the band (25 to 40 kHz)
 
The weather forecast looks favorable here for both Saturday and Sunday. Mostly clear sky, low winds and about zero degrees C.
 
I do look forward to work you all.
 
73 and GL.

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Ingolf, SM6FHZ
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URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081212/15738919/attachment.htm From kc3re at yahoo.com Sat Dec 13 03:59:46 2008 From: kc3re at yahoo.com (Cristofori Concerts) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:59:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Moon] Nice article on full moon this weekend Message-ID: <905674.88243.qm@web51310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20081211/sc_space/yearsbiggestfullmoonfridaynight 73, Martin, KC3RE From la9nea at online.no Sat Dec 13 10:30:20 2008 From: la9nea at online.no (Viggo Magnus LA9NEA) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:30:20 +0100 Subject: [Moon] LA9NEA: Activity report. Message-ID: Hello All! Worked this fine EME stations during the ''Full Moon Nite'' HB9HAL 579/579 , K8EB 549/549 (new) , N2UO 549/559, VE3KRP 549/569, and WW2R 559/559 An W3??? Called me, sorry was not able to ''read'' all letters, pse mail me......if you read this, want to try sked with you My 6 tube amp went QRT this morning, tube # 4 is broken and must be change, not able to do the repair to day, so if QRV to nite I will use my 250 watt SSPA (MKU 13200B)... The Full Moon shine very fine last nite, at the EME site it look like daytime at 2400 o'clock!! :-)) Will try to be qrv to nite, if any want sked ,pse mail me. 73 de Viggo LA9NEA LA9NEA 23 cm EME set up: Icom 756 pro II TR1296H trv Kuhne 6 x 7289 ring PA ,500 watt, MKU 13200B(spare PA) 250 watt SSPA, 5.3 meter dish, VE4MA Feed 1.stage preamp.Cavity NE32484 0.28 dB 2.stage Kuhne MGF 4953A 0.4 dB JO59dx Autotracking by W2DRZ, VK3UM tracking at screen. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081213/5a539177/attachment.htm From ok1dfc at seznam.cz Sat Dec 13 10:56:19 2008 From: ok1dfc at seznam.cz (OK1DFC) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:56:19 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Moon] LA9NEA: Activity report. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <596.1345-11609-1126120991-1229162179@seznam.cz> Expecting to be QRV this night around 010 on 23cm Regards OK1DFC ------------ P?vodn? zpr?va ------------ Od: Viggo Magnus LA9NEA P?edm?t: [Moon] LA9NEA: Activity report. Datum: 13.12.2008 10:55:22 ---------------------------------------- Hello All! Worked this fine EME stations during the ''Full Moon Nite'' HB9HAL 579/579 , K8EB 549/549 (new) , N2UO 549/559, VE3KRP 549/569, and WW2R 559/559 An W3??? Called me, sorry was not able to ''read'' all letters, pse mail me......if you read this, want to try sked with you My 6 tube amp went QRT this morning, tube # 4 is broken and must be change, not able to do the repair to day, so if QRV to nite I will use my 250 watt SSPA (MKU 13200B)... The Full Moon shine very fine last nite, at the EME site it look like daytime at 2400 o'clock!! :-)) Will try to be qrv to nite, if any want sked ,pse mail me. 73 de Viggo LA9NEA LA9NEA 23 cm EME set up: Icom 756 pro II TR1296H trv Kuhne 6 x 7289 ring PA ,500 watt, MKU 13200B(spare PA) 250 watt SSPA, 5.3 meter dish, VE4MA Feed 1.stage preamp.Cavity NE32484 0.28 dB 2.stage Kuhne MGF 4953A 0.4 dB JO59dx Autotracking by W2DRZ, VK3UM tracking at screen. Zdenek - OK1DFC www.ok1dfc.com QRV 144 - 3400 MHz EME QRO and 10m DISH WAC 432 - 1296 MHz From sm2cew at telia.com Sat Dec 13 11:47:08 2008 From: sm2cew at telia.com (Peter Sundberg) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:47:08 +0000 Subject: [Moon] SM2CEW not QRV this weekend Message-ID: <20081213104631.40E212C89E@mail.allt1.se> We have received a tremendous amount of wet sticky snow during the last 24 hours, so it is impossible for me to come on any band for some EME fun this weekend. Antennas are unusable. Have fun, use the extreme perigee to the fullest, and don't go too crazy under the full moon..! :-) 73 de Peter SM2CEW www.sm2cew.com From sm7wsj at telia.com Sat Dec 13 20:32:26 2008 From: sm7wsj at telia.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5kan_H?=) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:32:26 +0100 Subject: [Moon] Dubus activity Message-ID: <6C1198255D6949AC84C86F71D5C7B634@ibma4f41tydsoc> Hello Gentlemen, I am sorry i cant be on in the activity tonight. I hope to be active in the beginning of 2009 again. 73 Hakan SM7WSJ From ibnkarim at bigpond.net.au Sun Dec 14 07:54:16 2008 From: ibnkarim at bigpond.net.au (Charlie Kahwagi) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:54:16 +1100 Subject: [Moon] VK3NX QRV 23cm today 14th Dec Message-ID: <9D65359524974454A004BF43931FED5D@Charlieoffice> Hello Gentlemen, I plan to be on today, 14th Dec from 1230 utc into NA and then after some sleep I'll get on for any stations to my west until moonset at ~2100. I'll be CQ'ng on 1296.030 +/- and will tune around for other stations doing likewise. Hope to catch a few. Yesterday I had power supply failure which shut me down.all fixed now (I hope)! 73 Charlie VK3NX -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081214/8aa98650/attachment.htm From sp7dcs at wp.pl Sun Dec 14 11:56:30 2008 From: sp7dcs at wp.pl (Chris SP7DCS) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:56:30 +0100 Subject: [Moon] activity report 70cm&23cm Message-ID: <4944E65E.9010302@wp.pl> Hi, I had very limited time yesterday evening and I could get on the bands only for a while. I started on 70cm as my goal was to look for Big JA Dish team... 432MHz 4x25elYagi/400W WKD: 8J1AXA# new DXCC for me I1NDP (very strong) DL7APV (very strong) HRD: JA5NNS (called long time, I got qrzs) SP6JLW (in qso with other station, very strong) SV3AAF (in qso with other station) Later I swichted to 23cm for about an hour. My echos was louder than usual. 1296MHz 3m dish/200W at feed RA3AQ WKD: LA9NEA SV3AAF (my cq) G4CCH (my cq) Thank you all for nice qsos. I regret I had no time to stay longer in the night for a NA window and I had no time to deploy 2m array this time. See you next time! VY 73 ! de Chris SP7DCS -- Chris SP7DCS email - sp7dcs at wp.pl, sp7dcs at o2.pl, sp7dcs at smrw.lodz.pl EME PAGE - http://sp7dcs.webpark.pl From pa3cwn at tele2.nl Sun Dec 14 12:58:49 2008 From: pa3cwn at tele2.nl (Oene) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:58:49 +0100 Subject: [Moon] PA3CWN Dubus Activity Event Results and a MERRY XMAS Message-ID: <4944F4F9.5090406@tele2.nl> Hello All, I was QRV in both legs of this last Dubus Event in 2008 and found good signals of IK1FJI and IK2DDR and worked both of them. Heard very shortly K9MRI who was in qso with Valter, but was called by Francesco and did not hear him anymore after this. Also have been calling to Marcello IT9CJC the same time as Francesco, but obviously Faraday was playing as Marcello could not hear both of us (or maybe some QRM ? ) I had from time to time loud echoes but very low activity. In the 2nd leg I only heard Joachim DK3NG calling CQ , but could not see and hear his EME trace in Spectran. About halftime in 2nd leg the sigs came up and when listening to DK3NG suddenly YO2AMU showed up and at first shot Doru returned and the qso was rapidly finished. The same with Stan as OK1MS was very good copy and also was Tom DK3EE who were worked. Just before end time I heard Finn LA8YB calling CQ but condx were strange and had to put some effort to get his attention. But we succeeded and finished up with a total of 6 qso's this Event. Probably the last Event in classB for me, because next week start to dismantle my 4 yagi array which is for sale. Anyone interested in 4x9 ele DK7ZB can drop me an email. I will rebuild and plans will most likely be with 1 yagi in the future for 2m EME. Thanks All for the fun and see you back in 2009 but will be somewhat more challenging !! I wish Everyone a Merry Xmas and a very happy New Year !! Log for class B section 144 Mhz CW EME 13-12-08 00:31 IK1FJI OOO RO IK1 13-12-08 00:56 IK2DDR OOO IK2 13-12-08 19:30 YO2AMU RO OOO YO2 13-12-08 19:48 OK1MS RO OOO OK1 13-12-08 19:58 DK3EE RO OOO DK3 13-12-08 20:18 LA8YB RO OOO LA8 Points 6 QSO's x 10point x 6 Multipl. = 360points Heard were: K9MRI, IT9CJC, JH0MHE and OK1VVP ? Vy 73 Oene PA3CWN From frankddr at tele2.it Sun Dec 14 14:19:24 2008 From: frankddr at tele2.it (Francesco) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:19:24 +0100 Subject: [Moon] R: [Moon-net] PA3CWN Dubus Activity Event Results and a MERRY XMAS In-Reply-To: <4944F4F9.5090406@tele2.nl> Message-ID: Hello Oene, congratulations for your excellent Dubus event result. You made a good job. Unfortunately i was active only on 1st window, due football commitments. I found extremely strong signals, maybe the strongest of ever, from you, from IT9CJC and my own echoes. I'm sorry to see that you are reducing your array, i wish that you could change the project and improve instead to reduce. Anyway i understand, the reasons. The main traffic on 2m, now is on Digital and some Contest rule, do not suggest the need to improve our stations. I'm also getting interest on 23 cm and my dream is to become an active station there, but for now, i want to resist on 2m CW and time to time on Digital. After many years, eme for me still fun and particularily when the qso is hard. 73' de IK2DDR,Francesco -----Messaggio originale----- Da: moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net [mailto:moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net]Per conto di Oene Inviato: domenica 14 dicembre 2008 12.59 A: dubus-aw-logs at sm2cew.com; Moon; Moonnet Oggetto: [Moon-net] PA3CWN Dubus Activity Event Results and a MERRY XMAS Hello All, I was QRV in both legs of this last Dubus Event in 2008 and found good signals of IK1FJI and IK2DDR and worked both of them. Heard very shortly K9MRI who was in qso with Valter, but was called by Francesco and did not hear him anymore after this. Also have been calling to Marcello IT9CJC the same time as Francesco, but obviously Faraday was playing as Marcello could not hear both of us (or maybe some QRM ? ) I had from time to time loud echoes but very low activity. In the 2nd leg I only heard Joachim DK3NG calling CQ , but could not see and hear his EME trace in Spectran. About halftime in 2nd leg the sigs came up and when listening to DK3NG suddenly YO2AMU showed up and at first shot Doru returned and the qso was rapidly finished. The same with Stan as OK1MS was very good copy and also was Tom DK3EE who were worked. Just before end time I heard Finn LA8YB calling CQ but condx were strange and had to put some effort to get his attention. But we succeeded and finished up with a total of 6 qso's this Event. Probably the last Event in classB for me, because next week start to dismantle my 4 yagi array which is for sale. Anyone interested in 4x9 ele DK7ZB can drop me an email. I will rebuild and plans will most likely be with 1 yagi in the future for 2m EME. Thanks All for the fun and see you back in 2009 but will be somewhat more challenging !! I wish Everyone a Merry Xmas and a very happy New Year !! Log for class B section 144 Mhz CW EME 13-12-08 00:31 IK1FJI OOO RO IK1 13-12-08 00:56 IK2DDR OOO IK2 13-12-08 19:30 YO2AMU RO OOO YO2 13-12-08 19:48 OK1MS RO OOO OK1 13-12-08 19:58 DK3EE RO OOO DK3 13-12-08 20:18 LA8YB RO OOO LA8 Points 6 QSO's x 10point x 6 Multipl. = 360points Heard were: K9MRI, IT9CJC, JH0MHE and OK1VVP ? Vy 73 Oene PA3CWN _______________________________________________ Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are at http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html From ok1dfc at seznam.cz Sun Dec 14 15:09:38 2008 From: ok1dfc at seznam.cz (OK1DFC) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:09:38 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Moon] 1296 MHz Message-ID: <677.1305-27373-1330823314-1229263778@seznam.cz> Windy WX stoped during night my activity on 1296 MHz. Worked JA1WQF #53JT, HB9IZ #243CW-589, DF3RU 589 , UR5LX 559 then QRT due to wind. Expecting to be QRV this night. Still forecast for wind but looks that calming now. Looking for skeds or QSOs with - JT65 - WW2R, UA9FAD, W3HMS, WA8RJF, VK2JDS, JH0TOG CW - UA9FAD, W3HMS, PY2MJ, VK3NX, SM6FHZ, ZL1WD, K8EB. Regards Zdenek - OK1DFC www.ok1dfc.com QRV 144 - 3400 MHz EME QRO and 10m DISH WAC 432 - 1296 MHz From ok1dfc at seznam.cz Sun Dec 14 15:49:20 2008 From: ok1dfc at seznam.cz (OK1DFC) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:49:20 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Moon] [Moon-net] 1296 MHz In-Reply-To: <677.1305-27373-1330823314-1229263778@seznam.cz> Message-ID: <772.1552-30763-1680113875-1229266160@seznam.cz> Hust got the info that HB9IZ is not new initial, it is same stations like HB9HAL etc. :-((( Pity I though that this is practice only on 144 MHz where is 5 different calls running form one station. Than I have only #242 on 1296 MHz CW. Regards DFC ------------ P?vodn? zpr?va ------------ Od: OK1DFC P?edm?t: [Moon-net] 1296 MHz Datum: 14.12.2008 15:32:17 ---------------------------------------- Windy WX stoped during night my activity on 1296 MHz. Worked JA1WQF #53JT, HB9IZ #243CW-589, DF3RU 589 , UR5LX 559 then QRT due to wind. Expecting to be QRV this night. Still forecast for wind but looks that calming now. Looking for skeds or QSOs with - JT65 - WW2R, UA9FAD, W3HMS, WA8RJF, VK2JDS, JH0TOG CW - UA9FAD, W3HMS, PY2MJ, VK3NX, SM6FHZ, ZL1WD, K8EB. Regards Zdenek - OK1DFC www.ok1dfc.com QRV 144 - 3400 MHz EME QRO and 10m DISH WAC 432 - 1296 MHz _______________________________________________ Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are at http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html Zdenek - OK1DFC www.ok1dfc.com QRV 144 - 3400 MHz EME QRO and 10m DISH WAC 432 - 1296 MHz From bpaloma at telefonica.net Sun Dec 14 15:56:14 2008 From: bpaloma at telefonica.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Benjamin_Pi=F1ol?=) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:56:14 +0100 Subject: [Moon] special call and QSL Chrismas Catalonia in 144/432/1296 Message-ID: <51C7EF7C5AE94CE5931A891AD323D8EF@ea3xu39b533e50> Hi All EME colleagues. Special call and QSL by Catalan tradition at Chrismas http://eb3jt.ure.es/eh3ct/marcs.htm selec english or ........ Next Monday (15 to 21 December ), stations across the Autonomous Region of Catalonia, We will be active in all frequency bands, using the special call " EH3CT ", to celebrate a Chrismas . Also active We will to active by moon: EA3BB ( 144.141 1st in JT65 ) information of activity in CHAT : http://www.chris.org/cgi-bin/jt65emeA EA3XU ( 432.070 + _ and 1296.075 JT65c ) information in CHAT :http://www.chris.org/cgi-bin/jt65emeA and HB9Q chat By skeds 144 ea3bb at ure.es or ea3xu at ure.es and 432 and 1296 ea3xu at ure,.es Special qsl by EA3KG QRZ.com QSL: Via EA3KG ( bureau prefered ) or Direct with SASE + IRC or 1$ pse SPECIAL CALL - CAGA TI?, EH3CT PO. BOX 27067 08080 BARCELONA - CATALUNYA, SPAIN My best regards and Good Luck Benjamin EA3XU -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081214/41eccc24/attachment.htm From oaxaca at oregoncoast.com Sun Dec 14 16:36:27 2008 From: oaxaca at oregoncoast.com (TdM Labs) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:36:27 -0000 Subject: [Moon] Great Weekend.... In-Reply-To: <4944E65E.9010302@wp.pl> Message-ID: Aloha to all: This was fun weekend for me. I worked portable 144 Mcs. from CN73, 24 elements XPol and 400 watts. I worked Meteors and Luna, all random, all new initials from this location and was able to complete all qso, I ran 4 hours both Friday and Sat night each: ALL RANDOM QSO: EME 16 QSO (14 JT - 2 CW) Meteor 6 QSO (ALL FSK, Saw zero HSMS this year) I found conditions on Moon were excellent and the Gemini's supplying some good clusters of fruit also. Jeremy w7eme/p cn73 "Just say No to Loggers and real-time chat!" From ve6ta at clearwave.ca Sun Dec 14 19:34:41 2008 From: ve6ta at clearwave.ca (Grant Furnald) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:34:41 -0000 Subject: [Moon] VE6TA 432 EME Activity Message-ID: <164B7DF2F7FF4081AE58467A087D0CF2@DadPC> Despite the -35 C temps I managed to get on for the Dubus 432 activity period. I found conditions generally good with deep and rapid QSB. When signals were up they were very strong. Unfortunately my polarity rotor was stuck in the vertical position, and I had no opportunity to fine tune the polarization of calling stations. Worked were: K1RQG, I1NDP, WE2Y, UA6LGH. Stations heard were WA4NJP on ssb and K2UYH. I was called by a few stations that would be good copy except for the QSB and polarity rotor issues. I suspect DG1KJG called me several times and I apologize for not quite getting the call. Also I believe IK2RTI called but no reply. I will keep the 432 feed in for the next week, so let me know if you want to try a sked or repeat QSO. Thanks again for a great activty period, and lets put in a request for warmer weather next time. 73's Grant VE6TA 5.5 meter dish GS-23b DO33gs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As my 6 x 7289 PA went qrt yesterday I used my 250 watt SSPA last nite, so all qso's last nite was with my SSPA.( Full power at CW, 100 watt on JT65c) 73 Viggo LA9NEA LA9NEA 23 cm EME set up: Icom 756 pro II T R1296H trv Kuhne 6 x 7289 ring PA ,500 watt, MKU 13200B(spare PA) 250 watt SSPA, 5.3 meter dish,VE4MA Feed 1.stage preamp.Cavity NE32484 0.28 dB 2.stage Kuhne MGF 4953A 0.4 dB JO59dx Autotracking by W2DRZ, VK3UM tracking at screen. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081214/0dcad66c/attachment-0001.htm From guenter.koellner at nsn.com Mon Dec 15 07:06:46 2008 From: guenter.koellner at nsn.com (Koellner, Guenter (NSN - DE/Munich)) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:06:46 +0100 Subject: [Moon] Inital counting In-Reply-To: References: <772.1552-30763-1680113875-1229266160@seznam.cz><220C31E469924D9B8A6470A62EABE5AF@dh8bqax60><50445.209.112.216.176.1229293290.squirrel@mymail.alaska.net> Message-ID: Hi, I surely have the equipment to set up another EME station on 1296 or 2320 that I for myself would be able to work over the moon, for sure at least under sked conditions. If I now take this equipment to our next club's field day, where at least 30 minimum CW skilled operators are present, or even present build it up at the next bigger ham fair for public use, and work them all one after the other. Of course, I will not tell others about the frequency that I am working on... Would that be a fair inital increase? In my opinion: NO, IT WON'T. It is one new initial. NOW READ CAREFULLY, PLEASE: Argument is not against operators of a common built station. It is not decreasing the effort of building such a station, that is really honerable. You did a tremendeous job! Argument is against those who count such stations multiply. Errors may happen, of course. I for example was proud of working K1M on 70cm recently, but for me it is not a new initial since I read it is K1RQG's station they used. 73, G?nter, DL4MEA From df6na at df6na.de Mon Dec 15 07:43:48 2008 From: df6na at df6na.de (Rainer) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:43:48 +0100 Subject: [Moon] [Moon-net] 1296 MHz In-Reply-To: <50445.209.112.216.176.1229293290.squirrel@mymail.alaska.net> References: <772.1552-30763-1680113875-1229266160@seznam.cz> <220C31E469924D9B8A6470A62EABE5AF@dh8bqax60> <50445.209.112.216.176.1229293290.squirrel@mymail.alaska.net> Message-ID: <4945FCA4.5000707@df6na.de> Hi Mike, > But to belittle one of the oldest, longstanding benchmarks of EME success, > that is "counting of initials" is appalling. Hundreds, if not thousands > of us place HUGE emphasis on these statistics. > For me any many others "counting of initials" is totally uniteresting! And I do not see any 'benchmark' there !!! > It is not asking too much for anyone to follow the "gentleman's" > agreements that are in place across the entire EME community from 2 meters > to eventually 78GHz and higher. > So K1JT/K2UYH did not follow this "gentleman's" agreements in the ARRL contest 2008 when they operated from K2UYH using K1JT as call? Why didn't you (and others) complain there ??? As I mentioned before that has been done many times before and caused some confusion when we did not have internet. But there is not reason for this "gentlemen agreement" and I hope our swiss friends will go on. Don't spoil their fun! And fun is all that counts. 73, Rainer > Thanks 73 and Merry Christmas > > Mike, KL6M BP51dc > From ok1dfc at seznam.cz Mon Dec 15 08:17:51 2008 From: ok1dfc at seznam.cz (OK1DFC) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:17:51 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Moon] [Moon-net] 1296 MHz In-Reply-To: <4945FCA4.5000707@df6na.de> Message-ID: <669.1394-770-1909801468-1229325471@seznam.cz> Because it was anounced that K1JT will work from K2UYH and that I did not expect and count new initial that is all. I thing that it is simple, do not open here any other problem. Problem is if count initial or not, if not I have 268 different calls on 23cm or 247 Initials on 23cm. Than we can close all tables and hurry!!!! Do not hit me, but it is simple or not? Nobody is saying to do not work station with different call from one station. OK1DFC ------------ P?vodn? zpr?va ------------ Od: Rainer P?edm?t: Re: [Moon] [Moon-net] 1296 MHz Datum: 15.12.2008 07:44:39 ---------------------------------------- Hi Mike, > But to belittle one of the oldest, longstanding benchmarks of EME success, > that is "counting of initials" is appalling. Hundreds, if not thousands > of us place HUGE emphasis on these statistics. > For me any many others "counting of initials" is totally uniteresting! And I do not see any 'benchmark' there !!! > It is not asking too much for anyone to follow the "gentleman's" > agreements that are in place across the entire EME community from 2 meters > to eventually 78GHz and higher. > So K1JT/K2UYH did not follow this "gentleman's" agreements in the ARRL contest 2008 when they operated from K2UYH using K1JT as call? Why didn't you (and others) complain there ??? As I mentioned before that has been done many times before and caused some confusion when we did not have internet. But there is not reason for this "gentlemen agreement" and I hope our swiss friends will go on. Don't spoil their fun! And fun is all that counts. 73, Rainer > Thanks 73 and Merry Christmas > > Mike, KL6M BP51dc > _______________________________________________ Moon mailing list Moon at moonbounce.info http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon Please enter/update your standings: http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list Zdenek - OK1DFC www.ok1dfc.com QRV 144 - 3400 MHz EME QRO and 10m DISH WAC 432 - 1296 MHz From g3ltf at btinternet.com Mon Dec 15 09:23:13 2008 From: g3ltf at btinternet.com (peter blair) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:23:13 -0000 Subject: [Moon] G3LTF weekend activity Message-ID: <79A5B7C191FA4F0BB56B310DE43A5CCF@D7BX6Z0J> We were away until Sunday evening but the wx would probably have prevented operation anyway. Last night I put the 1296 feed in the dish and worked on CW VK3NX ( with ssb exchange) DF3RU, JA4BLC, SP7DCS, and ON4BCB. If anyone wants a sked or test on 1296 this week please email. The wx looks reasonable until Wednesday. 73 Peter G3LTF -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081215/d780a8d2/attachment.htm From sv3aaf at yahoo.com Mon Dec 15 10:51:53 2008 From: sv3aaf at yahoo.com (SV3AAF Petros) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:51:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Moon] Weekend activity Message-ID: <251994.33050.qm@web59104.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Finally, I only had the chance to be on EME Saturday evening for the eastern window. Found low traffic on 432 and unfortunately completely forgot about 8J1AXA so sorry guys I didn?t look for you before starting my CQs. Worked I1NDP (loud), JA5NNS, DL7APV (vy loud), SP6JLW. Conditions with good signals at the peak, long deep QSB, moderate libration and some faraday spread. Traffic was also relatively low on 1296, worked SM6FHZ, SP7DCS, JA4BLC, LA9NEA, GW3XYW, G4CCH, RW3PX. Good signal levels with very little QSB and moderate libration. ? 73, Petros sv3aaf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081215/1d2510a6/attachment.htm From cupido at mail.ua.pt Mon Dec 15 13:01:18 2008 From: cupido at mail.ua.pt (Luis Cupido) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:01:18 +0000 Subject: [Moon] [Moon-net] Naive question on initials In-Reply-To: <1229339334.49463ac6af8cf@www.versateladsl.be> References: <000d01c95e93$98768f40$0100a8c0@graf> <49462979.1080208@df6na.de> <1229339334.49463ac6af8cf@www.versateladsl.be> Message-ID: <4946470E.10503@mail.ua.pt> Is this correct ? > 1st QSO with W5UN in EM23SV = 1 initial > QSO with W5UN having moved in EM23TQ = 1 initial If this is correct. I'm about to be a new initial.... (I'm just a few cables away ;-) Beware :-) Luis Cupido ct1dmk. on4khg at versateladsl.be wrote: > Some exemples : > > 1st QSO with W5UN in EM23SV = 1 initial > K9xxx operating W5UN's station = no initial > QSO with W5UN having moved in EM23TQ = 1 initial > QSO with RA6AX operating RN6BN's station = 1 initial if not worked RN6BN before > (no initial if RN6BN wked before) > > aso > > 73, > > Ga?tan, ON4KHG > > > _______________________________________________ > Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are at http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html > > From pa3cwn at tele2.nl Mon Dec 15 13:52:36 2008 From: pa3cwn at tele2.nl (Oene) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:52:36 +0100 Subject: [Moon] 144 DK7ZB 9 ele for sale Message-ID: <49465314.8070108@tele2.nl> Hello All My 4 x 9 ele DK7ZB is for sale Yagis including coax from yagi's to coupler and 4 way coupler by RF Hamdesign (PA4FP). All together 400 Euro and only pickup because yagis are in one piece (5m long) so should be transported with small trailer or carry on the roof of the car. Taking over the complete H frame with elevation capability is also possible, otherwise I use parts of that again for my future plans Vy 73 Oene PA3CWN JO33ah From vladimir.masek at volny.cz Mon Dec 15 17:15:37 2008 From: vladimir.masek at volny.cz (vladimir.masek at volny.cz) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:15:37 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Moon] =?iso-8859-2?q?FYI=3A_What_is_an_EME_Initial_=3F?= Message-ID: <15ce229c6997e026af9d117f72dc071d@www1.mail.volny.cz> Dears, who may concern, pls, make a look on: [1]http://www.zen70432.zen.co.uk/Initials/index.html and try to think about an old definition. Tnx Tonda, OK1DAI/OK1KIR for straightforward info ! Vlada OK1DAK/OK1KIR Reference 1. http://www.zen70432.zen.co.uk/Initials/index.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081215/cee623f0/attachment.htm From graham.d at orange.fr Mon Dec 15 18:12:16 2008 From: graham.d at orange.fr (graham) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:12:16 +0100 Subject: [Moon] anomolies and clarifications In-Reply-To: <15ce229c6997e026af9d117f72dc071d@www1.mail.volny.cz> References: <15ce229c6997e026af9d117f72dc071d@www1.mail.volny.cz> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.1.20081215172303.01bf9ac0@pop.orange.fr> At 17:15 15/12/2008, vladimir.masek at volny.cz wrote: >Dears, >who may concern, pls, make a look on: >[1]http://www.zen70432.zen.co.uk/Initials/index.html >and try to think about an old definition. yes, fine, you keep quoting it, but it is absolutely not clear and full of holes/anomolies..... ie single operator contacting to 'club' , single op counts one initial regardless of call used at the club.....fine, we understand other direction....? if the 'club' members work other single op stations, then can they can count who they work as initials for themselves ? ..it is not clear , the language is ambiguous and confusing it refers to stationS, but then "particular station" without saying which particular of the two stationS it talks about. I cannot see why 'an operator' cannot collect his own initials at a 'shared' station, even if he is potentially a less attractive target than the other way around because others worked the 'shared' station already once before....that is for him/them to decide, not others. other points arising ----------------------------- 1.....if you move qth.......the tradition for square hunting (europe) is if you move > 50km you start again. The station contacting you just counts whichever square you are in. there is an anomoly between that and intials, in that initials suggest you have to move one BIG square to be a new initial to someone else and says nothing about restarting YOUR intials count if you move. ( other than adding "for those working it", which implies maybe it's not the same the other way around but doesn't say so actually) personally I think this is not sensible. the current initial rule as defined on that site allows you to move 1 metre from jn04 to jn05 ( new big square) and be an initial, whereas moving 60km the other way and staying in jn04 I would not be a new initial.... duh , same effort, same rebuild.... As I said it is unclear and not documented what happens in the other direction at all , ie do YOU ( the mover) have to start your intials score again, I think historically it is accepted yes you do for ANY move. Which is even less sensible because now everyone worked you already and you are not a new initial for them (if you did not change big square), so you are going to have a hard time starting again and attracting others to work you because you had to start all over again, they already got you. So I would suggest that some alignment with the 50km squares rule is more sensible. ie move < 50km ( or some distance decided) and 'unify' the rule so you will NOT be an initial, you do NOT have to start your initial score again and your squares score moves with you. move >50km ( or some distance decided) and 'unify' the rule so you WILL be an initial, you DO have to start your score again and your squares score starts again also. 2...ARRL contest rules they are ARRL contest rules. Nothing to do with this thread. In any case the 'rules' on this website have already been discounted in the recent case of someone buying someone else's eme station. Graham F5VHX From cupido at mail.ua.pt Mon Dec 15 19:38:28 2008 From: cupido at mail.ua.pt (Luis Cupido) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:38:28 +0000 Subject: [Moon] [Moon-net] anomolies and clarifications In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20081215172303.01bf9ac0@pop.orange.fr> References: <15ce229c6997e026af9d117f72dc071d@www1.mail.volny.cz> <6.2.1.2.1.20081215172303.01bf9ac0@pop.orange.fr> Message-ID: <4946A424.70200@mail.ua.pt> Geeeee.... :-) I think I know why less and less folks want to build stuff for EME, less time for optimizing less and less enthusiasm from newcomers, and less newcomers... some even avoid learning CW !!! I think the reason is ;-) the other things about EME are nowadays so difficult so complex, so time consuming and by all means so extenuating that hardly anyone considering to be serious about EME will have any time left for any technical (if for any QSO) after trying to learn and keep up to date with all this rules, definitions categories contests associations modes loggers initials etc etc. I may well say these EME politics are a new hobby by themselves. --- An appeal to newcomers on this list: There are EME QSO's and EME politics. Please select carefully your hobby before you start and then stay focused afterwards no matter what. EME is increasingly a challenge ;-) --- Luis Cupido. ct1dmk. graham wrote: > At 17:15 15/12/2008, vladimir.masek at volny.cz wrote: > >> Dears, >> who may concern, pls, make a look on: >> [1]http://www.zen70432.zen.co.uk/Initials/index.html >> and try to think about an old definition. > > yes, fine, you keep quoting it, but it is absolutely not clear and full > of holes/anomolies..... > > ie single operator contacting to 'club' , single op counts one initial > regardless of call used at the club.....fine, we understand > > other direction....? > > if the 'club' members work other single op stations, then can they can > count who they work as initials for themselves ? ..it is not clear , the > language is ambiguous and confusing it refers to stationS, but then > "particular station" without saying which particular of the two stationS > it talks about. > > I cannot see why 'an operator' cannot collect his own initials at a > 'shared' station, even if he is potentially a less attractive target > than the other way around because others worked the 'shared' station > already once before....that is for him/them to decide, not others. > > other points arising > ----------------------------- > > 1.....if you move qth.......the tradition for square hunting (europe) is > if you move > 50km you start again. The station contacting you just > counts whichever square you are in. > > there is an anomoly between that and intials, in that initials suggest > you have to move one BIG square to be a new initial to someone else and > says nothing about restarting YOUR intials count if you move. ( other > than adding "for those working it", which implies maybe it's not the > same the other way around but doesn't say so actually) > > personally I think this is not sensible. > > the current initial rule as defined on that site allows you to move 1 > metre from jn04 to jn05 ( new big square) and be an initial, whereas > moving 60km the other way and staying in jn04 I would not be a new > initial.... duh , same effort, same rebuild.... > > As I said it is unclear and not documented what happens in the other > direction at all , ie do YOU ( the mover) have to start your intials > score again, I think historically it is accepted yes you do for ANY move. > > Which is even less sensible because now everyone worked you already and > you are not a new initial for them (if you did not change big square), > so you are going to have a hard time starting again and attracting > others to work you because you had to start all over again, they already > got you. > > So I would suggest that some alignment with the 50km squares rule is > more sensible. ie > > move < 50km ( or some distance decided) and 'unify' the rule so you > will NOT be an initial, you do NOT have to start your initial score > again and your squares score moves with you. > > move >50km ( or some distance decided) and 'unify' the rule so you WILL > be an initial, you DO have to start your score again and your squares > score starts again also. > > > 2...ARRL contest rules > > they are ARRL contest rules. Nothing to do with this thread. > > > In any case the 'rules' on this website have already been discounted in > the recent case of someone buying someone else's eme station. > > Graham F5VHX > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are at > http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html > > From vladimir.masek at volny.cz Mon Dec 15 20:05:41 2008 From: vladimir.masek at volny.cz (vladimir.masek at volny.cz) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:05:41 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Moon] =?iso-8859-2?q?anomolies_and_clarifications?= In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.1.20081215172303.01bf9ac0@pop.orange.fr> References: <15ce229c6997e026af9d117f72dc071d@www1.mail.volny.cz> <6.2.1.2.1.20081215172303.01bf9ac0@pop.orange.fr> Message-ID: <16499bb9fce7635d6e40411494858f95@www1.mail.volny.cz> Hello Graham, why you are digging out what is NOT written there ? ( http://www.zen70432.zen.co.uk/Initials/index.html ) The wording is very simple and clear, at least for me and has been used for years w/o any major trouble and historical tables are maintained to have an EME genealogy. What does the historical definition actually say ? Initial has been historically understood as an initial contact between two stations, NOT between two callsigns (or operators). Reasons for were evident in the past. That's all and simple by my understanding. If the criterion of a station move from one to another big square is not satisfactory, I think it could be changed if it becomes a common will. That's just question what is reasonable. I vote for simplicity and a remarkable displacement of a station HW to create new initial for the other stations. Once more, it relates to stations, NOT to callsigns or operators ! Second, if I build a station or buy one, does that really make a sense ? I think NOT. What could make a sense is current viability of the historical definition itself. So, the right question would be, how much of us really would like to complicate things an to change or slightly modify the definition to maintain or disrupt the historical continuity of initials !? Honestly, reasonable exception could be a family station, e.g. as it is used in ARRL as mentioned by Ed, KL7UW. I think it is not such a big issue. 73, Vlada OK1DAK/OK1KIR ----- P?VODN? ZPR?VA ----- Od: "graham" Komu: vladimir.masek at volny.cz, moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net, "Rainer" P?edm?t: anomolies and clarifications Datum: 15.12.2008 - 18:12:16 > At 17:15 15/12/2008, vladimir.masek at volny.cz wrote: > > >Dears, > >who may concern, pls, make a look on: > >[1]http://www.zen70432.zen.co.uk/Initials/index.html > >>and try to think about an old definition. > > yes, fine, you keep quoting it, but it is absolutely > not clear and full of > holes/anomolies..... > > ie single operator contacting to 'club' , single op > counts one initial > regardless of call used at the club.....fine, we understand > > other direction....? > > if the 'club' members work other single op stations, > then can they can > count who they work as initials for themselves ? ..it > is not clear , the > language is ambiguous and confusing it refers to stationS, > but then > "particular station" without saying which particular > of the two stationS it > talks about. > > I cannot see why 'an operator' cannot collect his own > initials at a > 'shared' station, even if he is potentially a less > attractive target than > the other way around because others worked the 'shared' > station already > once before....that is for him/them to decide, not > others. > > other points arising > ----------------------------- > > 1.....if you move qth.......the tradition for square > hunting (europe) is if > you move > 50km you start again. The station contacting > you just counts > whichever square you are in. > > there is an anomoly between that and intials, in that > initials suggest you > have to move one BIG square to be a new initial to > someone else and says > nothing about restarting YOUR intials count if you > move. ( other than > adding "for those working it", which implies maybe > it's not the same the > other way around but doesn't say so actually) > > personally I think this is not sensible. > > the current initial rule as defined on that site allows > you to move 1 metre > from jn04 to jn05 ( new big square) and be an initial, > whereas moving 60km > the other way and staying in jn04 I would not be a > new initial.... duh , > same effort, same rebuild.... > > As I said it is unclear and not documented what happens > in the other > direction at all , ie do YOU ( the mover) have to start > your intials score > again, I think historically it is accepted yes you > do for ANY move. > > Which is even less sensible because now everyone worked > you already and you > are not a new initial for them (if you did not change > big square), so you > are going to have a hard time starting again and attracting > others to work > you because you had to start all over again, they already > got you. > > So I would suggest that some alignment with the 50km > squares rule is more > sensible. ie > > move < 50km ( or some distance decided) and 'unify' > the rule so you will > NOT be an initial, you do NOT have to start your initial > score again and > your squares score moves with you. > > move >50km ( or some distance decided) and 'unify' > the rule so you WILL be > an initial, you DO have to start your score again and > your squares score > starts again also. > > > 2...ARRL contest rules > > they are ARRL contest rules. Nothing to do with this > thread. > > > In any case the 'rules' on this website have already > been discounted in the > recent case of someone buying someone else's eme station. > > Graham F5VHX > > > > > > From df6na at df6na.de Mon Dec 15 20:19:06 2008 From: df6na at df6na.de (Rainer) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:19:06 +0100 Subject: [Moon] anomolies and clarifications In-Reply-To: <16499bb9fce7635d6e40411494858f95@www1.mail.volny.cz> References: <15ce229c6997e026af9d117f72dc071d@www1.mail.volny.cz> <6.2.1.2.1.20081215172303.01bf9ac0@pop.orange.fr> <16499bb9fce7635d6e40411494858f95@www1.mail.volny.cz> Message-ID: <4946ADAA.10507@df6na.de> Hi Vlada, sorry but your explaination opens another 'black hole' for me. vladimir.masek at volny.cz schrieb: > Hello Graham, > why you are digging out what is NOT written there ? > ( http://www.zen70432.zen.co.uk/Initials/index.html ) > The wording is very simple and clear, at least for me and has been used > for years w/o any major trouble and historical tables are maintained > to have an EME genealogy. > > What does the historical definition actually say ? > > Initial has been historically understood as an initial contact between > two stations, NOT between two callsigns (or operators). > Reasons for were evident in the past. > That's all and simple by my understanding. > > If the criterion of a station move from one to another big square is > not satisfactory, I think it could be changed if it becomes a common > will. > That's just question what is reasonable. > I vote for simplicity and a remarkable displacement of a station HW to > create new initial for the other stations. Once more, it relates to > stations, NOT to callsigns or operators ! > Ok - then I will sell my complete station every year and build up a new station. This way I would be an initial every year to everyone again ?!?!? 73, Rainer > Second, if I build a station or buy one, does that really make a sense > ? > I think NOT. > > What could make a sense is current viability of the historical definition > itself. > > So, the right question would be, how much of us really would like to > complicate things an to change or slightly modify the definition to > maintain or disrupt the historical continuity of initials !? > > Honestly, reasonable exception could be a family station, e.g. as it > is used in ARRL as mentioned by Ed, KL7UW. I think it is not such a > big issue. > > 73, > Vlada > OK1DAK/OK1KIR > > > > > > > > ----- P?VODN? ZPR?VA ----- > Od: "graham" > Komu: vladimir.masek at volny.cz, moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net, "Rainer" > > P?edm?t: anomolies and clarifications > Datum: 15.12.2008 - 18:12:16 > > >> At 17:15 15/12/2008, vladimir.masek at volny.cz wrote: >> >> >>> Dears, >>> who may concern, pls, make a look on: >>> [1]http://www.zen70432.zen.co.uk/Initials/index.html >>> >>>> and try to think about an old definition. >>>> >> yes, fine, you keep quoting it, but it is absolutely >> not clear and full of >> holes/anomolies..... >> >> ie single operator contacting to 'club' , single op >> counts one initial >> regardless of call used at the club.....fine, we understand >> >> other direction....? >> >> if the 'club' members work other single op stations, >> then can they can >> count who they work as initials for themselves ? ..it >> is not clear , the >> language is ambiguous and confusing it refers to stationS, >> but then >> "particular station" without saying which particular >> of the two stationS it >> talks about. >> >> I cannot see why 'an operator' cannot collect his own >> initials at a >> 'shared' station, even if he is potentially a less >> attractive target than >> the other way around because others worked the 'shared' >> station already >> once before....that is for him/them to decide, not >> others. >> >> other points arising >> ----------------------------- >> >> 1.....if you move qth.......the tradition for square >> hunting (europe) is if >> you move > 50km you start again. The station contacting >> you just counts >> whichever square you are in. >> >> there is an anomoly between that and intials, in that >> initials suggest you >> have to move one BIG square to be a new initial to >> someone else and says >> nothing about restarting YOUR intials count if you >> move. ( other than >> adding "for those working it", which implies maybe >> it's not the same the >> other way around but doesn't say so actually) >> >> personally I think this is not sensible. >> >> the current initial rule as defined on that site allows >> you to move 1 metre >> from jn04 to jn05 ( new big square) and be an initial, >> whereas moving 60km >> the other way and staying in jn04 I would not be a >> new initial.... duh , >> same effort, same rebuild.... >> >> As I said it is unclear and not documented what happens >> in the other >> direction at all , ie do YOU ( the mover) have to start >> your intials score >> again, I think historically it is accepted yes you >> do for ANY move. >> >> Which is even less sensible because now everyone worked >> you already and you >> are not a new initial for them (if you did not change >> big square), so you >> are going to have a hard time starting again and attracting >> others to work >> you because you had to start all over again, they already >> got you. >> >> So I would suggest that some alignment with the 50km >> squares rule is more >> sensible. ie >> >> move < 50km ( or some distance decided) and 'unify' >> the rule so you will >> NOT be an initial, you do NOT have to start your initial >> score again and >> your squares score moves with you. >> >> move >50km ( or some distance decided) and 'unify' >> the rule so you WILL be >> an initial, you DO have to start your score again and >> your squares score >> starts again also. >> >> >> 2...ARRL contest rules >> >> they are ARRL contest rules. Nothing to do with this >> thread. >> >> >> In any case the 'rules' on this website have already >> been discounted in the >> recent case of someone buying someone else's eme station. >> >> Graham F5VHX >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moon mailing list > Moon at moonbounce.info > http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon > > Please enter/update your standings: > http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html > > When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list > -- VHF/UHF/SHF Online Toplist: http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html DF6NA Homepage: http://www.df6na.de/ Amateurfunk-Flohmarkt: http://www.afu-flohmarkt.de/ VHF-DX.net: http://www.vhf-dx.net/ From sp7dcs at wp.pl Mon Dec 15 22:46:25 2008 From: sp7dcs at wp.pl (Chris SP7DCS) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:46:25 +0100 Subject: [Moon] activity report 70cm&23cm In-Reply-To: <4944E65E.9010302@wp.pl> References: <4944E65E.9010302@wp.pl> Message-ID: <4946D031.7030003@wp.pl> Hi, I had also some time for eme yesterday and today and I worked on 23cm cw: 14.12.08 G3LTF, ?OK1DFC, ?JA4BLC, DF3RU 15.12.08 UR5LX#60 (sked), HB9HAL Thank you all for nice qsos:) VY 73 !!! de Chris SP7DCS Chris SP7DCS pisze: > Hi, > > I had very limited time yesterday evening and I could get on the bands > only for a while. I started on 70cm as my goal was to look for Big JA > Dish team... > > 432MHz 4x25elYagi/400W > WKD: > 8J1AXA# new DXCC for me > I1NDP (very strong) > DL7APV (very strong) > > HRD: > JA5NNS (called long time, I got qrzs) > SP6JLW (in qso with other station, very strong) > SV3AAF (in qso with other station) > > Later I swichted to 23cm for about an hour. My echos was louder than usual. > 1296MHz 3m dish/200W at feed RA3AQ > WKD: > LA9NEA > SV3AAF (my cq) > G4CCH (my cq) > > Thank you all for nice qsos. I regret I had no time to stay longer in > the night for a NA window and I had no time to deploy 2m array this > time. See you next time! > > VY 73 ! de Chris SP7DCS > > -- Chris SP7DCS email - sp7dcs at wp.pl, sp7dcs at o2.pl, sp7dcs at smrw.lodz.pl EME PAGE - http://sp7dcs.webpark.pl From conrad at g0ruz.com Tue Dec 16 10:10:14 2008 From: conrad at g0ruz.com (Conrad G0RUZ) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:10:14 +0000 Subject: [Moon] [Moon-net] anomolies and clarifications In-Reply-To: <4946A424.70200@mail.ua.pt> References: <15ce229c6997e026af9d117f72dc071d@www1.mail.volny.cz> <6.2.1.2.1.20081215172303.01bf9ac0@pop.orange.fr> <4946A424.70200@mail.ua.pt> Message-ID: <49477076.5050301@g0ruz.com> Hear hear! You absolutely hit the nail on the head there Luis. I sit here somewhat bemused by this whole discussion. I have recently started fishing again after a long absence and that's the same, there's fishing and fishing politics. I have noticed that politics and internet access have increased proportionally in both my main hobbies. Bring back the VHF net :-) 73 Conrad G0RUZ Luis Cupido wrote: > Geeeee.... :-) > > I think I know why less and less folks > want to build stuff for EME, less time for optimizing > less and less enthusiasm from newcomers, > and less newcomers... some even avoid learning CW !!! > > > I think the reason is ;-) > > the other things about EME are nowadays > so difficult so complex, so time consuming and by all means > so extenuating that hardly anyone considering to be serious about > EME will have any time left for any technical (if for any QSO) > after trying to learn and keep up to date with all this rules, > definitions categories contests associations modes loggers > initials etc etc. > > > I may well say these EME politics are a new hobby by > themselves. > > > --- > > An appeal to newcomers on this list: > > There are EME QSO's and EME politics. > > > Please select carefully your hobby before you start > and then stay focused afterwards no matter what. > > EME is increasingly a challenge ;-) > > --- > > > Luis Cupido. > ct1dmk. > > > > > > graham wrote: > >> At 17:15 15/12/2008, vladimir.masek at volny.cz wrote: >> >> >>> Dears, >>> who may concern, pls, make a look on: >>> [1]http://www.zen70432.zen.co.uk/Initials/index.html >>> and try to think about an old definition. >>> >> yes, fine, you keep quoting it, but it is absolutely not clear and full >> of holes/anomolies..... >> >> ie single operator contacting to 'club' , single op counts one initial >> regardless of call used at the club.....fine, we understand >> >> other direction....? >> >> if the 'club' members work other single op stations, then can they can >> count who they work as initials for themselves ? ..it is not clear , the >> language is ambiguous and confusing it refers to stationS, but then >> "particular station" without saying which particular of the two stationS >> it talks about. >> >> I cannot see why 'an operator' cannot collect his own initials at a >> 'shared' station, even if he is potentially a less attractive target >> than the other way around because others worked the 'shared' station >> already once before....that is for him/them to decide, not others. >> >> other points arising >> ----------------------------- >> >> 1.....if you move qth.......the tradition for square hunting (europe) is >> if you move > 50km you start again. The station contacting you just >> counts whichever square you are in. >> >> there is an anomoly between that and intials, in that initials suggest >> you have to move one BIG square to be a new initial to someone else and >> says nothing about restarting YOUR intials count if you move. ( other >> than adding "for those working it", which implies maybe it's not the >> same the other way around but doesn't say so actually) >> >> personally I think this is not sensible. >> >> the current initial rule as defined on that site allows you to move 1 >> metre from jn04 to jn05 ( new big square) and be an initial, whereas >> moving 60km the other way and staying in jn04 I would not be a new >> initial.... duh , same effort, same rebuild.... >> >> As I said it is unclear and not documented what happens in the other >> direction at all , ie do YOU ( the mover) have to start your intials >> score again, I think historically it is accepted yes you do for ANY move. >> >> Which is even less sensible because now everyone worked you already and >> you are not a new initial for them (if you did not change big square), >> so you are going to have a hard time starting again and attracting >> others to work you because you had to start all over again, they already >> got you. >> >> So I would suggest that some alignment with the 50km squares rule is >> more sensible. ie >> >> move < 50km ( or some distance decided) and 'unify' the rule so you >> will NOT be an initial, you do NOT have to start your initial score >> again and your squares score moves with you. >> >> move >50km ( or some distance decided) and 'unify' the rule so you WILL >> be an initial, you DO have to start your score again and your squares >> score starts again also. >> >> >> 2...ARRL contest rules >> >> they are ARRL contest rules. Nothing to do with this thread. >> >> >> In any case the 'rules' on this website have already been discounted in >> the recent case of someone buying someone else's eme station. >> >> Graham F5VHX >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are at >> http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Moon mailing list > Moon at moonbounce.info > http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon > > Please enter/update your standings: > http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html > > When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list > From vladimir.masek at volny.cz Tue Dec 16 15:49:55 2008 From: vladimir.masek at volny.cz (vladimir.masek at volny.cz) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:49:55 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Moon] =?iso-8859-2?q?=5BMoon-net=5D___initials?= In-Reply-To: <991B685FBD324D999FBA9BB288E4CF13@hobbykamer> References: <15ce229c6997e026af9d117f72dc071d@www1.mail.volny.cz> <6.2.1.2.1.20081215172303.01bf9ac0@pop.orange.fr><4946A424.70200@mail.ua.pt> <49477076.5050301@g0ruz.com> <991B685FBD324D999FBA9BB288E4CF13@hobbykamer> Message-ID: Hello Hank, just a note and an attempt to get back to the original issue: the initials. The point in EME community was NOT a grid counting purpose, but the possibility to approve a moved station as a new initial for the others, just for initials counting. Actually, that somehow supports EME activity "creating" new initial from another location. The only question was how to approve that case, i.e. how much a station must move to become new initial for others not for itself, of course, if the callsign remains the same. There was a proposal to replace big suare change by a 50km distance or so .... That was the original task ..... For the others (NOT for you, Hank): I do not understand why some of us have used this opportunuty to complicate such a quite simple particular issue with other tasks, even creating doubts about everything. An exception for family station or a party(club) station without club callsign are separate issues and reasonable solutions can be proposed and discussed separately. Am I totally wrong ? Logging and counting QSOs, different modes, stations, countries, continents, initials, first contacts, sending QSL cards, etc. all that is either required by license or serve as a recognition of our hobby achievements among our EME community. So, what is going on overall ? If I don't like counting countries: I will not care about. If I do NOT like counting initials, I will NOT do that. Conversely, if I do like to share a particular recognition in our EME community I should show a democratic behaviour, i.e. in relation to current practices, used and recognized from the past till now, propose a change according to my best opinion and try to convince others to agree it. For example, the last EME Conference in Florence was the right place. Maybe, another body could serve as well. Pls, propose ! 73, Vlada, OK1DAK/OK1KIR ----- P?VODN? ZPR?VA ----- Od: "QROradio" Komu: moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net P?edm?t: Re: [Moon-net] [Moon] anomolies and clarifications Datum: 16.12.2008 - 11:47:00 > Why would you have to start over in case of a move > of 50km. > For grid-counting in case of tropo / MS that makes > sense. In that case the > distance to the other station changes relatively much. > > For EME I really miss the point why 50km should make > a difference. The > relative change of distance is neglectible on the dual > earth/moon path. > > Strange to apply tropo rules to EME... > > Henk > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> graham wrote: > >> > >>> At 17:15 15/12/2008, vladimir.masek at volny.cz wrote: > >>> >>> > >>> > >>>> Dears, > >>>> who may concern, pls, make a look on: > >>>> [1]http://www.zen70432.zen.co.uk/Initials/index.html > >>>> >>>> and try to think about an old definition. > >>>> > >>> yes, fine, you keep quoting it, but it is absolutely > >>> not clear and full > >>> >>> of holes/anomolies..... > >>> > >>> ie single operator contacting to 'club' , single > >>> op counts one initial > >>> >>> regardless of call used at the club.....fine, we > >>> understand > >>> >>> > >>> other direction....? > >>> > >>> if the 'club' members work other single op stations, > >>> then can they can > >>> >>> count who they work as initials for themselves > >>> ? ..it is not clear , the > >>> >>> language is ambiguous and confusing it refers to > >>> stationS, but then > >>> >>> "particular station" without saying which particular > >>> of the two stationS > >>> >>> it talks about. > >>> > >>> I cannot see why 'an operator' cannot collect his > >>> own initials at a > >>> >>> 'shared' station, even if he is potentially a less > >>> attractive target > >>> >>> than the other way around because others worked > >>> the 'shared' station > >>> >>> already once before....that is for him/them to > >>> decide, not others. > >>> >>> > >>> other points arising > >>> ----------------------------- > >>> > >>> 1.....if you move qth.......the tradition for square > >>> hunting (europe) is > >>> >>> if you move > 50km you start again. The station > >>> contacting you just > >>> >>> counts whichever square you are in. > >>> > >>> there is an anomoly between that and intials, in > >>> that initials suggest > >>> >>> you have to move one BIG square to be a new initial > >>> to someone else and > >>> >>> says nothing about restarting YOUR intials count > >>> if you move. ( other > >>> >>> than adding "for those working it", which implies > >>> maybe it's not the > >>> >>> same the other way around but doesn't say so actually) > >>> >>> > >>> personally I think this is not sensible. > >>> > >>> the current initial rule as defined on that site > >>> allows you to move 1 > >>> >>> metre from jn04 to jn05 ( new big square) and be > >>> an initial, whereas > >>> >>> moving 60km the other way and staying in jn04 I > >>> would not be a new > >>> >>> initial.... duh , same effort, same rebuild.... > >>> >>> > >>> As I said it is unclear and not documented what > >>> happens in the other > >>> >>> direction at all , ie do YOU ( the mover) have > >>> to start your intials > >>> >>> score again, I think historically it is accepted > >>> yes you do for ANY > >>> >>> move. > >>> > >>> Which is even less sensible because now everyone > >>> worked you already and > >>> >>> you are not a new initial for them (if you did > >>> not change big square), > >>> >>> so you are going to have a hard time starting again > >>> and attracting > >>> >>> others to work you because you had to start all > >>> over again, they already > >>> >>> got you. > >>> > >>> So I would suggest that some alignment with the > >>> 50km squares rule is > >>> >>> more sensible. ie > >>> > >>> move < 50km ( or some distance decided) and 'unify' > >>> the rule so you > >>> >>> will NOT be an initial, you do NOT have to start > >>> your initial score > >>> >>> again and your squares score moves with you. > >>> > >>> move >50km ( or some distance decided) and 'unify' > >>> the rule so you WILL > >>> >>> be an initial, you DO have to start your score > >>> again and your squares > >>> >>> score starts again also. > >>> > >>> > >>> 2...ARRL contest rules > >>> > >>> they are ARRL contest rules. Nothing to do with > >>> this thread. > >>> >>> > >>> > >>> In any case the 'rules' on this website have already > >>> been discounted in > >>> >>> the recent case of someone buying someone else's > >>> eme station. > >>> >>> > >>> Graham F5VHX > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> >>> Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions > >>> are at > >>> >>> http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Moon mailing list > >> Moon at moonbounce.info > >> http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon > >> >> > >> Please enter/update your standings: http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html > >> > >> >> > >> When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider > >> this unpolite and > >> >> remove you from the list > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are > > at > > > http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moon-Net posting and subscription instructions are > at http://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html > From jpawlan at pawlan.com Tue Dec 16 20:26:01 2008 From: jpawlan at pawlan.com (Jeffrey Pawlan) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:26:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Moon] new version of Winrad released Message-ID: I just released a new version of Winrad at www.winrad.org Hopefully this will fix the occasional problem of it not displaying when some virus scanners are installed on your computer. Please let me know if you still see any bugs. Thanks for the work on the code go to Michael White, G3WOE and also to Charles Buse, HB9EGW. 73, Jeffrey Pawlan WA6KBL From frankddr at tele2.it Wed Dec 17 19:59:13 2008 From: frankddr at tele2.it (Francesco) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:59:13 +0100 Subject: [Moon] 2m cw eme skeds In-Reply-To: <772.1552-30763-1680113875-1229266160@seznam.cz> Message-ID: Hello all, i'm finally on vacation and i have some free time for possible test. If some newcomer is available we could setup some 2m cw eme sked. 73' de IK2DDR,Francesco 4X19LLY-MGF1801+Norton WSE Converters+Linrad 8877 From ingolf.fhz at gmail.com Wed Dec 17 21:55:25 2008 From: ingolf.fhz at gmail.com (Ingolf, SM6FHZ) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:55:25 +0100 Subject: [Moon] 1296 MHz EME SM6FHZ December AW Message-ID: Dear all. Thank you for the nice 23 cm EME QSO's in the December AW. Naturally lower level of activity compared to the November contest weekend, I am still very content with my results. Just a few smaller equipment failures this time, that all could be repaired or just compensated for. It is obvious that it takes some time to force the rig to show all the weak points;-)). EME traffic is for sure very demanding on both operator and equipment. I do wish I could foresee the weak points and make the repairs before the EME weekend. I was on from my moon rise Saturday Dec 13th to moon set on Sunday Dec 14th with a few breaks for eating and sleeping. I also spent more than two hours repairing a 28 V power supply that the Az and El drive is running on. Without that power supply I can't even park the dish. I managed to work the following stations: 1704 OK1KIR on my CQ, 1711 SP6JLW on my CQ. 1738 UR5LX on sked, 1745 F2TU, 1845 DF3RU, 1855 HB9IZ, 1935 DF3RU on SSB (he answered my CW CQ on SSB and I switched to SSB as well), 1957 JA4BLC, 2014 G4CCH, 2045 OH2DG, 2113 I5MPK, 2128 SV3AAF, 2150 LA9NEA, 0239 W5LUA, 0258 N2UO, 0308 WA6PY before our sked, 0335 WW2R, 0350 W9IIX, 0612 HB9HAL, 0705 HB9HAL on SSB. Getaways were: 1725 OZ6OL, 1920 OK1DFC, 0330 W4OP, 0634 PA3FXB. I hope to catch you the next time. I am very happy to notice that several of the stations I worked had 3 m antennas, on random. This is not how I remember it from the mid 80's. It has sure moved forward a lot. It really warms me up in the dark cold Swedish winter. I also notice that the operating standards of the stations is very good, excellent performing operators. Very nice to work EME under these conditions. I plan to be the moon in the January AW again. I do not think I will have the possibility to be on during the holidays, but I hope to be able to build a more contemporary 23 cm preamp design than the one I am currently using. 73 and a very Merry X-mas and a Happy New 2009 to all of you! Ingolf, SM6FHZ http://www.2ingandlin.se/SM6FHZ.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081217/59d1c15e/attachment.htm From frankddr at tele2.it Thu Dec 18 08:27:55 2008 From: frankddr at tele2.it (Franco) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:27:55 +0100 Subject: [Moon] DK3NG and IK2DDR 2m CW eme qso In-Reply-To: <4889ABAE0187D74E@vsmtp10.tin.it> (added by postmaster@virgilio.it) References: <4889ABAE0187D74E@vsmtp10.tin.it> (added by postmaster@virgilio.it) Message-ID: <000401c960e2$25645ea0$702d1be0$@it> Hello all, i will to report my 1st 2m cw eme contact with Joachim, DK3NG, this morning. Jo is running a 2X17 elem. and about 500W. It was really a very easy qso, because his signal was really strong, until 529 in some moments. Joachim told me that he will add some more antennas to the actual system. Anyway, I'm very pleased to have worked this newcomer and I'm available for others for some other test, On 2m cw eme. 73' Francesco,IK2DDR From frankddr at tele2.it Thu Dec 18 16:03:36 2008 From: frankddr at tele2.it (Francesco) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:03:36 +0100 Subject: [Moon] R: 2m cw eme skeds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello all, i'm finally on vacation and i have some free time for possible test. If some newcomer is available we could setup some 2m cw eme sked. The 1st sked, with DK3NG (2x17 and 500W), has produced a very easy and quick qso this morning. I found really UFB conditions. 73' de IK2DDR,Francesco 4X19LLY-MGF1801+Norton WSE Converters+Linrad 8877 From la9nea at online.no Fri Dec 19 06:12:34 2008 From: la9nea at online.no (Viggo Magnus LA9NEA) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:12:34 +0100 Subject: [Moon] 1296 eme. 20 dec Message-ID: <92A2A1EF2753419694C12679B3EC1F5D@yourd2e589c81c> Hello ! Plan to be qrv to morrow 20 dec., run cq call nr 1295.015... any sked are welcome. The 6 tube amp is now in good shape , and ready for service., tube nr 4 was '' dead''.........replaced with and old '' good one''. Have also chance to be on JT65c if some want sked in that mode. qrv on HB9Q logger during activity time. 73 Viggo LA9NEA LA9NEA 23 cm EME set up: Icom 756 pro II TR1296H trv Kuhne 6 x 7289 ring PA ,500 watt, MKU 13200B(spare PA) 250 watt SSPA, 5.3 meter dish, VE4MA Feed 1.stage preamp.Cavity NE32484 0.28 dB 2.stage Kuhne MGF 4953A 0.4 dB JO59dx Autotracking by W2DRZ, VK3UM tracking at screen. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081219/f9b6193e/attachment.htm From frankddr at tele2.it Fri Dec 19 10:10:32 2008 From: frankddr at tele2.it (Franco) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:10:32 +0100 Subject: [Moon] HAPPY BIRTHDAY BERNDT: DL7HR and IK2DDR 2m CW eme qso In-Reply-To: <000401c960e2$25645ea0$702d1be0$@it> References: <4889ABAE0187D74E@vsmtp10.tin.it> (added by postmaster@virgilio.it) <000401c960e2$25645ea0$702d1be0$@it> Message-ID: <000c01c961b9$a5ec7170$f1c55450$@it> Hello all, the last part of the year, is reserving me lot of eme satisfactions. This is very nice because helps to forget the general bad economic situation, hi, hi. This morning I completed with success a new 2m cw eme contact, with a new station for me. Berndt, DL7HR, has answered a couple of days ago, to my request of 2m cw eme skeds and this morning, at the 1st attempt, we have complete very easyly. Berndt has a 4X7 elem. and 750 W system. It was really a very nice contact and except on 1st Period, I have always heard him very well and in some moments he was 529. Today is Berndt Birthday and so I'm very happy to celebrate with him this important event, making our 1st eme contact, instead to drink a glass of beer.(We could do it later Berndt) Happy Birthday BERNDT. I wish you all the best and lot of success on eme. 73' Francesco,IK2DDR http://it.geocities.com/ik2ddr/index.html From zs6axt at telkomsa.net Fri Dec 19 10:16:25 2008 From: zs6axt at telkomsa.net (Ivo Chladek) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:16:25 +0200 Subject: [Moon] Christmas Message-ID: <00a501c961ba$77d57920$0300000a@ZS6AXT> > MERRY CHRISTMAS AND SUCCCESSFUL, HEALTHY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR TO ALL , > ESPECIALLY ON EME ! > > IVO ZS6AXT > _______________________ > Ivo Chladek > ZS6AXT at TELKOMSA.NET > +27-11-664-7883 > loc. KG33VV.82 > From frankddr at tele2.it Fri Dec 19 10:35:32 2008 From: frankddr at tele2.it (Franco) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:35:32 +0100 Subject: [Moon] R: Christmas In-Reply-To: <00a501c961ba$77d57920$0300000a@ZS6AXT> References: <00a501c961ba$77d57920$0300000a@ZS6AXT> Message-ID: <000e01c961bd$239f3780$6adda680$@it> Thank you very much Ivo. Merry Christmas and Happy new year to you and yours. Francesco,IK2DDR -----Messaggio originale----- Da: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info] Per conto di Ivo Chladek Inviato: venerd? 19 dicembre 2008 10.16 A: MOON Cc: moon-request at moonbounce.info Oggetto: [Moon] Christmas > MERRY CHRISTMAS AND SUCCCESSFUL, HEALTHY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR TO ALL , > ESPECIALLY ON EME ! > > IVO ZS6AXT > _______________________ > Ivo Chladek > ZS6AXT at TELKOMSA.NET > +27-11-664-7883 > loc. KG33VV.82 > _______________________________________________ Moon mailing list Moon at moonbounce.info http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon Please enter/update your standings: http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1854 - Release Date: 18/12/2008 20.06 From bpaloma at telefonica.net Fri Dec 19 10:59:48 2008 From: bpaloma at telefonica.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Benjamin_Pi=F1ol?=) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:59:48 +0100 Subject: [Moon] Xmas and HNY Message-ID: <4C6F351531D54B9091C8820DF8477F51@ea3xu39b533e50> MY BEST WISHES FOR HEALTH FOR ALL THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TESTS AT 144/432/1296 MHz MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR FOR EME OMs AND FAMILY Benjamin EA3XU -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Anyone for some test tomorrow morning or in the coming week? 73' de IK2DDR,Francesco 4X19LLY-MGF1801+Norton WSE Converters+Linrad 8877 From df6na at df6na.de Sat Dec 20 10:26:34 2008 From: df6na at df6na.de (Rainer) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 10:26:34 +0100 Subject: [Moon] HP8970A In-Reply-To: <4C6F351531D54B9091C8820DF8477F51@ea3xu39b533e50> References: <4C6F351531D54B9091C8820DF8477F51@ea3xu39b533e50> Message-ID: <494CBA4A.5040200@df6na.de> Hello, I have a used but clean and working HP8970A that I don't need. If you're interested please make a reasonable offer - off list please. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! 73, Rainer Hallo, ich habe einen gebrauchten aber sauberen, funktionierenden HP8970A Raumschme?platz abzugeben. Realistische Angebote bitte direkt an mich. Frohe Weihnachten und ein erfolgreiches Neues Jahr! 73, Rainer -- VHF/UHF/SHF Online Toplist: http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html DF6NA Homepage: http://www.df6na.de/ Amateurfunk-Flohmarkt: http://www.afu-flohmarkt.de/ VHF-DX.net: http://www.vhf-dx.net/ From la9nea at online.no Sun Dec 21 10:50:08 2008 From: la9nea at online.no (Viggo Magnus LA9NEA) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:50:08 +0100 Subject: [Moon] 1296 eme activity report 20 dec Message-ID: <8E0A324FD3734220985ABBB842854B8A@LA9NEA> Hello All! Here my activity report 20 dec. ES6RQ OOO JT65c, RD3DA OOO JT65c, G4CCH OOO JT65c, and on CW IW2FZR 559/559 and G4CCH 569/569., Power set on JT65c 150 watt, on CW 450 watt. 73 de Viggo LA9NEA LA9NEA 23 cm EME set up: Icom 756 pro II TR1296H trv Kuhne 6 x 7289 ring PA ,500 watt, MKU 13200B(spare PA) 250 watt SSPA, 5.3 meter dish, VE4MA Feed 1.stage preamp.Cavity NE32484 0.28 dB 2.stage Kuhne MGF 4953A 0.4 dB JO59dx Autotracking by W2DRZ, VK3UM tracking at screen. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081221/ebb9afb4/attachment.htm From rick1ds at hotmail.com Sun Dec 21 12:00:35 2008 From: rick1ds at hotmail.com (rick1ds at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:00:35 -0800 Subject: [Moon] Vacation reply In-Reply-To: Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081221/c97cbf96/attachment.htm From oz1hne at post8.tele.dk Sun Dec 21 13:05:48 2008 From: oz1hne at post8.tele.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F8rgen_Kristiansen?=) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:05:48 +0100 Subject: [Moon] December DUBUS CW EME event result, Message-ID: <009701c96364$779f0740$392ef23e@privatqvfgt3vl> Hello EME'ers, I was only QRV for a very short time in the second part of the December DUBUS CW EME event due to some Christmas activities. I found very good conditions with great signals from the 3 stations I worked: 13/12 2008 1737 UTC. JR3REX RO/RO 10p 1 multip. 13/12 2008 1800 UTC. OK1MS RO/RO 10p 1 multip. 13/12 2008 1809 UTC. YO2AMU RO/RO 10p 1 multip. Total: 30p x 3 multip. = 90 points. Thanks to all for the EME QSO's in the DUBUS CW EME event 2008, it was all great fun and I look very much forward to hear all the CW signals from the moon again in 2009. I have to thanks all the people behind this fine CW EME event. Merry Christmas and a Healty Happy New Year to you and yours. Best 73, OZ1HNE Jorgen. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081221/8b9eda19/attachment.htm From DL7UDA at versanet.de Sun Dec 21 16:42:11 2008 From: DL7UDA at versanet.de (DL7UDA) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:42:11 +0100 Subject: [Moon] merry XMAS from DL7UDA Message-ID: <494E63D3.9090409@versanet.de> Hello EMErs, I wish all of you merry XMAS and a HNY. Hope that all of you feeling well and meet anyone next year via moon on 2m, 70cm or, if I can finish my 23cm projekts, on CW or JT65. XMAS time is also a very good time to send out missing QSLs... I sent out QSLs for every 1. contact. Missing cards for nearly one year or more from EI.., RA3.., RW3..., K5..., KL..., NC1.., N2..., YU...., SM7..., 73 Dietmar DL7UDA -------------- n?chster Teil -------------- Ein Dateianhang mit HTML-Daten wurde abgetrennt... 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Martin, KC3RE, FM18dp From k6pf at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 22 06:03:32 2008 From: k6pf at sbcglobal.net (Bob Kocisko) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:03:32 -0800 Subject: [Moon] Season Greetings & 2009 to be an Outstanding Year for EME Message-ID: <000801c963f2$a3641350$6401a8c0@Office> Best wishes to the EME community for a wonderful holiday season. Wish you & your families a very Merry Christmas & happy & healthy New Year with great EME success. I just looked at Derwin King's (W5LUU) Moondata Update 2009 in Fall 2008 issue of CQ VHF magazine. During 2009 & 2010, EME conditions will be the most favorable of a 9 year cycle. During 2009, 10 weekends are rated as Good to Excellent! On 2m, degradation will be as low as 0.07 & 0.08dB on a couple of days. I remember how wonderful conditions were during the last peak 9 yrs ago. 2m & 70cm should be especially affected by this low degradation. So, hopefully, we will have a lot of 2m CW activity during 2009. I'm going to make a real effort to be QRV more & try to work the remaining 4 states I need on CW for 2m WAS. Vy 73, Bob, K6PF -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081221/c7608260/attachment.htm From frankddr at tele2.it Mon Dec 22 09:09:04 2008 From: frankddr at tele2.it (Francesco) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:09:04 +0100 Subject: [Moon] R: Season Greetings & 2009 to be an Outstanding Year for EME In-Reply-To: <000801c963f2$a3641350$6401a8c0@Office> Message-ID: Best wishes to you and all Bob. I'm really wishing to hear you, as others, much more often on 2m cw eme. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Francesco,IK2DDR -----Messaggio originale----- Da: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info]Per conto di Bob Kocisko Inviato: luned? 22 dicembre 2008 6.04 A: Moon-net; EME Bounce Net Oggetto: [Moon] Season Greetings & 2009 to be an Outstanding Year for EME Best wishes to the EME community for a wonderful holiday season. Wish you & your families a very Merry Christmas & happy & healthy New Year with great EME success. I just looked at Derwin King's (W5LUU) Moondata Update 2009 in Fall 2008 issue of CQ VHF magazine. During 2009 & 2010, EME conditions will be the most favorable of a 9 year cycle. During 2009, 10 weekends are rated as Good to Excellent! On 2m, degradation will be as low as 0.07 & 0.08dB on a couple of days. I remember how wonderful conditions were during the last peak 9 yrs ago. 2m & 70cm should be especially affected by this low degradation. So, hopefully, we will have a lot of 2m CW activity during 2009. I'm going to make a real effort to be QRV more & try to work the remaining 4 states I need on CW for 2m WAS. Vy 73, Bob, K6PF -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081222/a38998fb/attachment-0001.htm From Bruinier at t-online.de Mon Dec 22 10:37:00 2008 From: Bruinier at t-online.de (Johann Bruinier) Date: 22 Dec 2008 09:37 GMT Subject: [Moon] preamps Message-ID: <1LEhDl-2IgBLk0@fwd11.aul.t-online.de> Gentlemen, it was time for this interesting stream. IMHO, all contributors provided valuable info in their own right (Graham, Joe, Sergei et al., references to PA3CSG and OE5JFL). I might add that DJ9BV did some important pioneering work concerning the basics of NF measurements and its pitfalls. Forgive me for being slightly amused when I see NFs in system descriptions. What's a liquid He cooled preamp worth if preceded by so and so many feet of RG8? G/T is the ONLY valid info about the sensitivity of a RX system. Cold sky vs. ground is a good way for comparisons, same goes for CS vs. 50 Ohm resistor. Apart from summer/winter variations, Tground is more or less a "personal" value. Width of tolerance band concerning NF measurements is also dependent on the attenuation (isolation) between noise source and DUT. Thanks Graham for showing the effects of s11! I feel this topic still offers room for discussion. But for today, let me wish all of you and your loved ones Happy Holidays and a Healthy and Prosperous New Year!!! 73 Jan DL9KR. From pa3cmc at xs4all.nl Mon Dec 22 22:14:15 2008 From: pa3cmc at xs4all.nl (Lins Berben) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:14:15 +0100 Subject: [Moon] Merry Xmas - happy new year Message-ID: <1AC3EA0A7B154C80A1BF15EE10B1454C@WKS002> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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References: <494FF534.77710340@freenet.co.uk> <494FF7BC.F95C9627@freenet.co.uk> Message-ID: <49513EE2.7932CD7B@freenet.co.uk> > > > > > I wish all my moonbounce friends a very happy christmas. > > Apologies for not being so active this past year but I do hope to be > > much more active again on 2m cw during 2009. > > MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY,HEALTHY NEW YEAR. > > 73 Roy G3ZIG. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 22/12/08 11:23 From nw_ebw at MMMonVHF.de Wed Dec 24 16:49:46 2008 From: nw_ebw at MMMonVHF.de (nw_ebw at MMMonVHF.de) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:49:46 +0100 Subject: [Moon] MERRY XMAS GREETINGS In-Reply-To: <022901c965e4$50326a80$0b01a8c0@home> References: <001201c94dae$d473d8e0$eb02a8c0@SHACK> <022901c965e4$50326a80$0b01a8c0@home> Message-ID: <49525A1A.8000802@MMMonVHF.de> MERRY CHRISTMAS and A HAPPY NEW YEAR to YOU and YOUR FAMILIES Hope we will meet a lot of times in next year 2009 via the Moon! 73 de Guido "Guy" DL8EBW on behalf of the MMMonVHF-Team DG2KBC DK3XT DK5EW DK5YA HA5CRX IV3NDC OZ1LPR PA2DW PA3BIY & PA4EME From w7qx at msn.com Wed Dec 24 17:02:16 2008 From: w7qx at msn.com (Jerry Kleker) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:02:16 -0700 Subject: [Moon] (no subject) Message-ID: Merry Christmas to all es 73 de Jerry W7QX -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081224/23383d00/attachment.htm From ok1dfc at seznam.cz Wed Dec 24 17:15:29 2008 From: ok1dfc at seznam.cz (OK1DFC) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:15:29 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Moon] X-mas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <796.1660-6139-2062779794-1230135329@seznam.cz> all the best http://www.ok1dfc.com/pf09.jpg Zdenek - OK1DFC www.ok1dfc.com QRV 144 - 3400 MHz EME QRO and 10m DISH WAC 432 - 1296 MHz From i5wbe at i5wbe.it Wed Dec 24 22:17:49 2008 From: i5wbe at i5wbe.it (Enrico Baldacci) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 21:17:49 +0000 Subject: [Moon] WORLD WIDE EME MARATHON 2008 Message-ID: <4952A6FD.3050002@i5wbe.it> *WORLD WIDE EME MARATHON 2008 ----------------------------- *Sponsored by the Italian Radio Amateur Association - A. R. I. SECTIONS: OM and SWL, portable or fixed station. DATE/TIME: from 0000z January 1st to 2400z December 31th.,2008 Frequency Category VHF 144 " 1A) QRO (erp pwr equal or more than 100 KW). (SSB/CW ) VHF 144 " 2A) QRP (erp pwr below 100 Kw or 1 to 4 antennas). (SSB/CW ) VHF 144 " 3A) Only digital mode SWL 144 " 4A) (SSB/CW/DGT) UHF 432 " 1B) QRO ( >50 dbW ERP) (SSB/CW ) UHF 432 " 2B) QRP ( <50 dbW ERP) (SSB/CW ) UHF 432 " 3B) Only digital mode SWL 432 " 4B) (SSB/CW/DGT) UHF 1296 " 1C) QRO ( >60 dbW ERP) (SSB/CW ) UHF 1296 " 2C) QRP ( <60 dBW ERP) (SSB/CW ) UHF 1296 " 3C) Only digital mode SWL 1296 " 4C) (SSB/CW/DGT) (If it is not specified entrant category, logs will be counted for the QRO one) SHF 2304 "(SSB/CW ) SWL 2304 "(SSB/CW ) SHF 5760 "(SSB/CW ) SWL 5760 "(SSB/CW ) SHF 10000 "(SSB/CW ) SWL 10000 "(SSB/CW ) VHF 50 MHz 1D) (SSB/CW ) VHF 50 " 2D) Only digital mode SWL 50 " 3D) (SSB/CW / DGT) SWL: in this category also OM stations (licenced radio amateurs) may participate but only in the SWL category. The same station cannot be worked more than once per day, but it can be worked again in the following days. VALID QSOs: only 2way EME CW/SSB and Digital Modes QSOs are allowed. (separate logs for 2 x SSB/CW and 2 x DIGITAL) EXCHANGE: callsigns and RST or TMO. SCORING: 100 points per QSO multiplied by the total number of DXCC countries PLUS 1. ------ *EXAMPLE: 20 QSOs and 5 DXCC countries + 1 = 12000 points. (20 x 100) x (5 + 1) = 12000 **Logs must have a summary sheet enclosed comprehensive of: Category, QSOs total number, DXCC countries total number + 1 and the total score. Logs without this declaration will be considered CONTROL LOG. *PRIZE: first 3 OMs and SWLs for each band and category. ENTRIES: postmarked not later than January 31th 2009 LOG: by e-mail to *i1anpmario at alice.it* (will be confirmed upon reception), or by mail to Mario Alberti - Via Privata Maralunga 12 - 19126 La Spezia - Italy. The Italian E.M.E. Coordinator Mario Alberti, I1ANP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081224/5292cd1c/attachment.htm From i5wbe at i5wbe.it Sat Dec 27 10:27:15 2008 From: i5wbe at i5wbe.it (Enrico Baldacci) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:27:15 +0000 Subject: [Moon] AWARDS: ARI -EME --ARI Marathon 2007 Message-ID: <4955F4F3.3020105@i5wbe.it> To all concerned (even if slightly off topic): In the course of the next few weeks, the awards relative to: 1)The ARI -EME cw/ssb/digimode 2007 contest 2)The ARI Marathon 2007 will be mailed to the winners. The awards were not delivered during the 13th EME Conference in August,because of intervening changes in the ARI executive committee and personnel related problems; this has generated a considerable delay in the delivery,but we have been assured that they will be mailed before Jan.20. We apologize for the delay,due to circumstances beyond our control. Best 73. The ARI-CRT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081227/0c546c3d/attachment.htm From df2zc at gmx.de Sat Dec 27 18:18:18 2008 From: df2zc at gmx.de (DF2ZC) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:18:18 +0100 Subject: [Moon] 144 MHz EME NewsLetter by DF2ZC Message-ID: <001a01c96847$1d0e4150$eb02a8c0@SHACK> Hello All, the December issue is now for download at: www.df2zc.de/newsletter/index.html Have a good 2009! vy 73 Bernd DF2ZC (JO30RN) www.df2zc.de ____________________________________________ 144 MHz EME NewsLetter: www.df2zc.de/newsletter 144 MHz DXCC #21 144 MHz WAC Kenwood TS 2000 2 x GU74b by LZ2US 4 x 2M18XXX 21 dBd full elevation From frankddr at tele2.it Sat Dec 27 18:40:08 2008 From: frankddr at tele2.it (Franco) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:40:08 +0100 Subject: [Moon] R: AWARDS: ARI -EME --ARI Marathon 2007 In-Reply-To: <4955F4F3.3020105@i5wbe.it> References: <4955F4F3.3020105@i5wbe.it> Message-ID: <000001c9684a$29cf2640$7d6d72c0$@it> Excuse me Enrico, but i ask you if you know something about the spring 2009 ARI DIGITAL CONTEST. I'll not see in the rule the ASSISTED CAT. I believe that, after the last Contests experiences, is time to not follow bad examples and back to the real use of the "ONLY RADIO" way. Could us know what's going on, about the ARI DIGITAL 2009 CONTEST RULE? 73' Francesco,IK2DDR Da: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info] Per conto di Enrico Baldacci Inviato: sabato 27 dicembre 2008 10.27 A: moonbounce; moon Oggetto: [Moon] AWARDS: ARI -EME --ARI Marathon 2007 To all concerned (even if slightly off topic): In the course of the next few weeks, the awards relative to: 1)The ARI -EME cw/ssb/digimode 2007 contest 2)The ARI Marathon 2007 will be mailed to the winners. The awards were not delivered during the 13th EME Conference in August,because of intervening changes in the ARI executive committee and personnel related problems; this has generated a considerable delay in the delivery,but we have been assured that they will be mailed before Jan.20. We apologize for the delay,due to circumstances beyond our control. Best 73. The ARI-CRT No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1865 - Release Date: 26/12/2008 13.01 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081227/b17fb9cc/attachment.htm From funk-telegramm at t-online.de Sat Dec 27 19:02:07 2008 From: funk-telegramm at t-online.de (J. Kraft) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:02:07 +0100 Subject: [Moon] =?iso-8859-15?q?144_MHz_EME_NewsLetter_by_DF2ZC?= In-Reply-To: <001a01c96847$1d0e4150$eb02a8c0@SHACK> References: <001a01c96847$1d0e4150$eb02a8c0@SHACK> Message-ID: <1LGdUF-1oEheK0@fwd02.aul.t-online.de> GE & FYI It should be fair to read the complete and true numbers before you start to argue and whine about the missing EU Digital EME Contest in 2009: EU EME Contest 2008 numbers of entries: 2m Digital 10 2m CW 23 (>100% more than digital....) 70cm Digital 1 70cm CW 28 23cm Digital 4 23cm CW 48 total Digital 15 total CW 99 This means that digital OPs do not have much interest in a random EME contest. Thats`s all and it is totally o.k. for me. And who knows, may be I am working on a new future digital contest with new rules already.... 73 and all the best for 2009 Joe, DL8HCZ/CT1HZE From df2zc at gmx.de Sat Dec 27 19:17:02 2008 From: df2zc at gmx.de (DF2ZC) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:17:02 +0100 Subject: [Moon] 144 MHz EME NewsLetter by DF2ZC In-Reply-To: <1LGdUF-1oEheK0@fwd02.aul.t-online.de> References: <001a01c96847$1d0e4150$eb02a8c0@SHACK> <1LGdUF-1oEheK0@fwd02.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: <002701c9684f$515b8ff0$eb02a8c0@SHACK> Thank you for the clarification, Joe. We are all quite excited what solution you might come up with. HNY 73 Bernd DF2ZC -----Original Message----- From: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info] On Behalf Of J. Kraft Sent: Samstag, 27. Dezember 2008 19:02 To: moon at moonbounce.info Subject: Re: [Moon] 144 MHz EME NewsLetter by DF2ZC GE & FYI It should be fair to read the complete and true numbers before you start to argue and whine about the missing EU Digital EME Contest in 2009: EU EME Contest 2008 numbers of entries: 2m Digital 10 2m CW 23 (>100% more than digital....) 70cm Digital 1 70cm CW 28 23cm Digital 4 23cm CW 48 total Digital 15 total CW 99 This means that digital OPs do not have much interest in a random EME contest. Thats`s all and it is totally o.k. for me. And who knows, may be I am working on a new future digital contest with new rules already.... 73 and all the best for 2009 Joe, DL8HCZ/CT1HZE _______________________________________________ Moon mailing list Moon at moonbounce.info http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon Please enter/update your standings: http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list From i5wbe at i5wbe.it Sat Dec 27 23:19:35 2008 From: i5wbe at i5wbe.it (Enrico Baldacci) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 22:19:35 +0000 Subject: [Moon] R: AWARDS: ARI -EME --ARI Marathon 2007 In-Reply-To: <000001c9684a$29cf2640$7d6d72c0$@it> References: <4955F4F3.3020105@i5wbe.it> <000001c9684a$29cf2640$7d6d72c0$@it> Message-ID: <4956A9F7.1040505@i5wbe.it> Hi Francesco, I'm not shure but, I believe that for the year 2009 the rules are the same of 2008 At present I know only these date: 25-26 April - EME Meeting Pietrasanta 30-31 May - Italian EME Contest digimode 12-13 September - Italian EME Contest CW/SSB 73' de Enrico i5wbe ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Franco ha scritto: > > Excuse me Enrico, but i ask you if you know something about the spring > 2009 ARI DIGITAL CONTEST. > > I'll not see in the rule the ASSISTED CAT. > > I believe that, after the last Contests experiences, is time to not > follow bad examples and back to the real use of the "ONLY RADIO" way. > > > > Could us know what's going on, about the ARI DIGITAL 2009 CONTEST RULE? > > > > 73' Francesco,IK2DDR > > > > *Da:* moon-bounces at moonbounce.info > [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info] *Per conto di *Enrico Baldacci > *Inviato:* sabato 27 dicembre 2008 10.27 > *A:* moonbounce; moon > *Oggetto:* [Moon] AWARDS: ARI -EME --ARI Marathon 2007 > > > > > > To all concerned (even if slightly off topic): > > In the course of the next few weeks, the awards relative to: > > 1)The ARI -EME cw/ssb/digimode 2007 contest > > 2)The ARI Marathon 2007 > > will be mailed to the winners. > > The awards were not delivered during the 13th EME Conference in > August,because of intervening changes in the ARI executive committee > and personnel related problems; > > this has generated a considerable delay in the delivery,but we have > been assured that they will be mailed before Jan.20. > > We apologize for the delay,due to circumstances beyond our control. > > Best 73. > > The ARI-CRT > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081227/0b4edcda/attachment.htm From frankddr at tele2.it Sun Dec 28 10:54:29 2008 From: frankddr at tele2.it (Franco) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:54:29 +0100 Subject: [Moon] R: R: AWARDS: ARI -EME --ARI Marathon 2007 In-Reply-To: <4956A9F7.1040505@i5wbe.it> References: <4955F4F3.3020105@i5wbe.it> <000001c9684a$29cf2640$7d6d72c0$@it> <4956A9F7.1040505@i5wbe.it> Message-ID: <001b01c968d2$48387450$d8a95cf0$@it> Hello Enrico, thank you very much for your kind answer. Let me say that it sound a bit strange that the previous rule, that permits the "ASSISTED CAT.", should be confirmed, when we all are trying to back at the use of the only radio way. This is eme and not CB (with full respect of CB of course). I don't know why, when we do mistakes, we need to propose the same mistakes for another year. For this topic I suggest to the organizers to ask to those stations that usually do eme activity, instead to decide with their own head. This is democracy. Anyway, as told many other times, usually when there is a 2m eme contest, I like to help to increase the activity, making some traffic, independently by the mode, although my preferred was, is and still cw. If there are no changes, I'll prepare my fishing boat for the 2nd consecutive year. I'm not absolutely in agreement with this mode to propose eme, during contests. I believe that there is a very long year to make this type of activity and during eme contests, the traffic should be only on random, as discussed on last Florence Conference. Francesco,IK2DDR Da: Enrico Baldacci [mailto:i5wbe at i5wbe.it] Inviato: sabato 27 dicembre 2008 23.20 A: Franco Cc: 'moonbounce'; 'moon' Oggetto: Re: R: [Moon] AWARDS: ARI -EME --ARI Marathon 2007 Hi Francesco, I'm not shure but, I believe that for the year 2009 the rules are the same of 2008 At present I know only these date: 25-26 April - EME Meeting Pietrasanta 30-31 May - Italian EME Contest digimode 12-13 September - Italian EME Contest CW/SSB 73' de Enrico i5wbe _____ Franco ha scritto: Excuse me Enrico, but i ask you if you know something about the spring 2009 ARI DIGITAL CONTEST. I'll not see in the rule the ASSISTED CAT. I believe that, after the last Contests experiences, is time to not follow bad examples and back to the real use of the "ONLY RADIO" way. Could us know what's going on, about the ARI DIGITAL 2009 CONTEST RULE? 73' Francesco,IK2DDR Da: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info] Per conto di Enrico Baldacci Inviato: sabato 27 dicembre 2008 10.27 A: moonbounce; moon Oggetto: [Moon] AWARDS: ARI -EME --ARI Marathon 2007 To all concerned (even if slightly off topic): In the course of the next few weeks, the awards relative to: 1)The ARI -EME cw/ssb/digimode 2007 contest 2)The ARI Marathon 2007 will be mailed to the winners. The awards were not delivered during the 13th EME Conference in August,because of intervening changes in the ARI executive committee and personnel related problems; this has generated a considerable delay in the delivery,but we have been assured that they will be mailed before Jan.20. We apologize for the delay,due to circumstances beyond our control. Best 73. The ARI-CRT No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: 27/12/2008 20.49 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081228/a92321d0/attachment-0001.htm From df6na at df6na.de Sun Dec 28 13:33:16 2008 From: df6na at df6na.de (Rainer) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:33:16 +0100 Subject: [Moon] IC-1271E Message-ID: <4957720C.6090907@df6na.de> Hi, a friend of mine has an IC-1271E with dead backup battery. When he asked ICOM Germany to get this thing repaired they told him 'it's not repairable'. So is there anyone who has the binary that goes into the RAM module or probably has a working RAM module for sale? Otherwise this radio is trash. Please reply direct df6na at df6na.de HNY & vy 73 Rainer -- VHF/UHF/SHF Online Toplist: http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html DF6NA Homepage: http://www.df6na.de/ Amateurfunk-Flohmarkt: http://www.afu-flohmarkt.de/ VHF-DX.net: http://www.vhf-dx.net/ From df6na at df6na.de Sun Dec 28 14:38:41 2008 From: df6na at df6na.de (Rainer) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:38:41 +0100 Subject: [Moon] IC-1271E In-Reply-To: <4957720C.6090907@df6na.de> References: <4957720C.6090907@df6na.de> Message-ID: <49578161.10806@df6na.de> Rainer schrieb: > Hi, > > a friend of mine has an IC-1271E with dead backup battery. When he asked > ICOM Germany to get this thing repaired they told him 'it's not repairable'. > So is there anyone who has the binary that goes into the RAM module or > probably has a working RAM module for sale? Otherwise this radio > is trash. > > Please reply direct df6na at df6na.de > HNY & vy 73 Rainer > > The problems is solved thanks to PA0JME: http://ronhashiro.htohananet.com/am-radio/ik2rnd-icom-ramboard.html Thanks again and vy 73, Rainer -- VHF/UHF/SHF Online Toplist: http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html DF6NA Homepage: http://www.df6na.de/ Amateurfunk-Flohmarkt: http://www.afu-flohmarkt.de/ VHF-DX.net: http://www.vhf-dx.net/ From sm4ive at telia.com Sat Dec 27 18:20:16 2008 From: sm4ive at telia.com (Lars Pettersson) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:20:16 +0100 Subject: [Moon] For sale Message-ID: <19F07C6D01E948C989066D5A55CE23EC@RADIO> Hi gang i have for sale a Ailtech 7380 Noisefactor/gain meter. Service manual and Operation manual. No noise source. More info in the PDF Interested contact me on my personal email. sm4ive at telia.com Happy New Year 2009 de Lars SM4IVE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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More info in the PDF Interested contact me on my personal email. sm4ive at telia.com Happy New Year 2009 de Lars SM4IVE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081228/26a1ab5c/attachment-0001.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 49907 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081228/26a1ab5c/attachment-0001.jpeg From yu7xl at nadlanu.com Sun Dec 28 15:57:01 2008 From: yu7xl at nadlanu.com (Slobodan Bukvic) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:57:01 +0100 Subject: [Moon] Oblong antennas for 432 MHz References: <46E5FA92D5B448F4A17A6C54C882734B@RADIO> Message-ID: <008801c968fc$8a0c9ee0$0301a8c0@BOBAN> http://www.qslnet.de/member/yu7xl/oblong_models_432.htm Happy holidays and good DX in 2009 to all. Boban, YU7XL, JN95NT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.moonbounce.info/pipermail/moon/attachments/20081228/4878b9ca/attachment.htm From zl1rs at yahoo.com Tue Dec 30 08:32:15 2008 From: zl1rs at yahoo.com (Bob Sutton) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:32:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Moon] A35 holiday expedition Message-ID: <811680.40527.qm@web38705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Seasons greetings to all! Barring some sort of disaster, A35RS should be QRV on 2M from AG28hv in the Kingdom of Tonga (south Pacific islands) from 06-15 January 2009. However ... the antenna setup will be small, the power low, no skeds, no Internet, and I will be "on holiday" ... so don't expect too much !! But ... do take a look for my signal as the location has a great take off directly over the ocean at A35 moonset which corresponds with moonrise in Europe ... possible double ground gain !! ... and the potential for massive Faraday / one-way propagation problems !! It will be great "fun" ;-) Frequencies and operating times will be announced here later ... or look for spots on the loggers ... and good luck :-) 73, Bob ZL1RS/A35RS P.S. I promise you bigger, brighter and better things on 2M from the Cook Islands as E51EME from BG08dr in late March / early April when Lance W7GJ and I team up there for a real "6n2 EME dxpedition" effort ;-) zl1rs at yahoo.com http://www.qsl.net/zl1rs/ web site updated 29 Dec 08 From py1epu at uai.com.br Tue Dec 30 13:58:46 2008 From: py1epu at uai.com.br (PY1EPU - Franco) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:58:46 -0200 Subject: [Moon] (no subject) References: <811680.40527.qm@web38705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: From py1epu at uai.com.br Tue Dec 30 14:14:31 2008 From: py1epu at uai.com.br (PY1EPU - Franco) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:14:31 -0200 Subject: [Moon] Test References: <811680.40527.qm@web38705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <010C06E7189246E4895D91DA533B336B@PY4EPU> From df6na at df6na.de Tue Dec 30 15:17:33 2008 From: df6na at df6na.de (Rainer) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:17:33 +0100 Subject: [Moon] Test In-Reply-To: <010C06E7189246E4895D91DA533B336B@PY4EPU> References: <811680.40527.qm@web38705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <010C06E7189246E4895D91DA533B336B@PY4EPU> Message-ID: <495A2D7D.6010508@df6na.de> PY1EPU - Franco schrieb: > _______________________________________________ > Moon mailing list > Moon at moonbounce.info > http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon > > Please enter/update your standings: > http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html > > When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and remove you from the list > Hi Franco, this is a reflector - not an ARCADE game ! From py1epu at uai.com.br Tue Dec 30 15:59:13 2008 From: py1epu at uai.com.br (PY1EPU - Franco) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:59:13 -0200 Subject: [Moon] Test References: <811680.40527.qm@web38705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <010C06E7189246E4895D91DA533B336B@PY4EPU> <495A2D7D.6010508@df6na.de> Message-ID: Hi, Rainer Entschuldigung 73, Franco PY1EPU - GG87kd PY4EPU - GG88po CWSP - CWJF - Labre ---------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer" To: "PY1EPU - Franco" Cc: "Moon Reflector" Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [Moon] Test > PY1EPU - Franco schrieb: >> _______________________________________________ >> Moon mailing list >> Moon at moonbounce.info >> http://www.moonbounce.info/mailman/listinfo/moon >> >> Please enter/update your standings: >> http://www.vhf-dx.net/top.html >> >> When you decide to remain anonymous I may consider this unpolite and >> remove you from the list >> > Hi Franco, > > this is a reflector - not an ARCADE game !