[Moon] R: R: wsjt-cw ... there is no debate.

Cominelli Franco franco.cominelli at sidergarda.com
Fri Apr 18 08:27:00 CEST 2008


Hello dear Lars,
i'm happy to read that my proposal is not so bad.
As i told on my previous e-mail, why not ask a room
to the CRT for debate the 144 mhz problems, for those
that have some interest for this band and try to resolve something?
I'm sure that in a full weekend, we could find-out
a couple of hours for this topic. I love CW and although, time to time
i'm also active on digital, it could
never been replaced by a digital mode, on my preference. Too difference
the effort, the concentration and the satisfaction to make a qso( and the setup of a good station too), but
i think that is time that someone clarify the difference, separating
contest,DXCC,awards and so on. I guess that this war don't give
any benefit to someone.
I wish to hear you again on 2m, on cw of course. I'm getting interest on 23 cm,but
at the moment there are no Euro to invest there (hi,hi) and so
will look a bit over in the future....... 
 
73'Francesco,IK2DDR

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Lars Pettersson [mailto:sm4ive at telia.com]
Inviato: giovedì 17 aprile 2008 20.10
A: Cominelli Franco; Doug McArthur; Naylor Jonathan; moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net; moon at moonbounce.info.
Oggetto: Re: [Moon] R: wsjt-cw ... there is no debate.



Franco et Al

Have you heard the Saga!!!!. The never ending story   CW vs JT65



Your proposal to have a meeting at Florence 2008 EME conference  are certainly  a good thing. 

To try to resolve the problems within the EME community. 

However this is a BIG quest mark to me mainly this problem is on 144 Mhz

And the EME conference should be 432 & UP    at least it was from the beginning.



It`s not a good solution to have  an open for all Conference since we have different interests.

 The 144 EMErs  want to work as many DXCC and strange calls as possible will it be CW or Digital.



The 432 & Up are more into technical, stuff trying to improve their Receivers, better  feeders for dishes,

Hunting every  0.1 db  and one thing not to forget the socializing with friends that have the same interest. 

I don't believe that Digital are counted in here. 

don`t mix 50 & 144 EME with 432 & UP Conferences.,

 

Just a thought from a dumb Swede that only works CW     why?  I cant RTFM

 

73 de Lars SM4IVE

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Cominelli Franco <mailto:franco.cominelli at sidergarda.com>  
To: Doug McArthur <mailto:tikaluna at bigpond.com>  ; Naylor  <mailto:naylorjs at yahoo.com> Jonathan ; moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net ; moon at moonbounce.info. 
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:45 AM
Subject: [Moon] R: wsjt-cw ... there is no debate.

Hello all, i don't want to fire up the debate.
I'll only to say that next EME CONFERENCE, in Florence, could be the right place to talk and try to resolve the 
situation. Nobody of us has interest to maintain the present situation. 
If there is a real interest to resolve our problems, we could ask to the CRT (Tuscany Regional Committee),
to setup a room, for us. In this mode we don't get tired those, like SHF operators, that maybe have not
our problems.
Why not?
 
Francesco,IK2DDR


 
 
 
 
 
 -----Messaggio originale-----
Da: moon-bounces at moonbounce.info [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info]Per conto di Doug McArthur
Inviato: giovedì 17 aprile 2008 0.13
A: Naylor Jonathan; moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net; moon at moonbounce.info.
Oggetto: Re: [Moon] wsjt-cw ... there is no debate.



Hi Jonathan et al
Where .. just where has ANYONE stated that CW is better than WSJT in the recent postings. 

One simply cannot mention CW and WSJT in the same sentence without some one believing there is a debate about the merits of each.

Who cares .. each have their own views. The irrefutable fact lays in differences in system requirements and operational techniques. Reward for effort should
always be a recognised basis for any Award. Hence most would prefer separating the modes for Contest purposes. (and Awards .. now theres a debatable topic I wont touch!) 
The DUBUS model, as stated repeatedly, is seemingly the logical answer.

There is no need to change the ARRL weekends either as suggested. Leave it as it is but simply strike out Mixed modes and "assisted" CW. If you still wish to
retain assisted and unassisted modes for WSJT then thats fine to.. you only have to police it to give the results their fitting credence. GL!

Now where did I say (or infer) CW was better than WSJT in this posting?  Please read the text as presented in the interests of further strengthening our Hobby.
73 Doug VK3UM 

(got to go .. my chopper is waiting)


that At 02:31 AM 17/04/2008, you wrote:


--- EB1DNK <eb1dnk at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Bla, bla, bla, bla, bla,
>
bla....................................................................EB1DNK
> Jose Manuel IN62CI more info http://www.qsl.net/eb1dnk/index.html 

I absolutely agree. Could Mr Moderator please put moderation on, and
tell the people who have a big axe to grind, to do so elsewhere. You're
not impressing anybody with your repeated posts that CW is better than
JT65, etc, etc.

Perhaps when I can afford to buy a 10m dish and have it flown in by
helicopter then I might join them, but living in a flat in a city puts
that option out of reach.

Jonathan  ON/G4KLX



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