[Moon] Assisted, 2007 ARRL International EME Competition

[M. Watanabe]

Hello Lars, 

Problems around 'assisted' lie not only in the use of JT, but 
aslo in the analog modes.   The same problems happend many 
years back in the HF contests scene; then the rules changed 
to allow assisted categories, in which entry is NOT limited for 
small stations only.   It means, assisted is assisted. 
This is the difference from our problems in face.  

Actually a hard-disc of anyone,even if whose station is small or 
not, will reflect for EME.  That's a problem!  (And not JT itself...)


Mike  JH1KRC



---- Lars Pettersson <sm4ive at telia.com> wrote: 
> Hi Mike
> Your questions are understandable.
> My comment in this topic are a simple answer.
> WE did not have this problem before the upcoming of Digital modes as JT65, 
> So we could thank the author of the software for all this problems.
> // SM4IVE   not participate in ARRL EME contest.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "M. Watanabe" <jh1krc at syd.odn.ne.jp>
> To: "Moon" <Moon at moonbounce.info>
> Cc: <ja-eme at bun.dokidoki.ne.jp>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:39 PM
> Subject: [Moon] Assisted, 2007 ARRL International EME Competition
> 
> 
> > Congratulations to all EME guys that entered in the ARRL EME Compe this 
> > year, which seems really busy with good conditions.
> >
> > Please understand I am NOT intended to bother or irritate my good friends 
> > Lars SM4IVE, Joe K1JT, Jay K5JT, and othres.
> >
> > Anyone can give me a clear answer (or nearly a clear one) on the following 
> > questions?   English sentenses are hard for me.
> > Only 2007 Rules is in this discussion, and I know it will advance in the 
> > future.   No joking, pelase.
> >
> > I guess (but have no evidence) that this rule change might be a big 
> > compromise to introduce the degital mode to this contest.
> > But also I hope this rule would not produce another fighting from the both 
> > sides, because of not pointing out what is to be done clearly for assisted 
> > categories.  See the rule, below.
> >
> >
> > Please make it for example, on 144 MHz any mode, my questions are:
> >
> > 1) What communications methods other than EME can you use for assisted 
> > categories?  Please count with concrete names.
> >
> > 2) If someone who is calling JH1KRC for many minutes unseucessfully, just 
> > see the writing by someone else on a logger  that JH1KRC is operating with 
> > V-polarization, and then he changes the pol. and succeeds in contact to 
> > JH1KRC, he should submit the log to assisted category.  Am I right?
> >
> > 3) If someone is in contact with JH1KRC but missed a part of the report to 
> > receive, he requests JH1KRC to send his report again by internet or 
> > telephone, in such situation in the contest, he has to begin the contact 
> > to JH1KRC from the first moment, and should not continue the present 
> > contact.  Assisted rule allows this.
> > Am I right?
> >
> > 4) According to the rule 5.3.4 and 5.3.8, who can actually submit the log 
> > for these assisted categories?
> >
> >
> > I know I ask you very idiotic questions, but I have to make it for 
> > sure...if possible.   Thank you for your help.
> >
> > 73es,
> >
> > Mike JH1KRC
> >
> >
> > ********************************
> >
> > 2007 ARRL International EME Competition Rules (abbreb.)
> >
> > Rule 3.5  Assisted operation (Assisted). Any active or passive use of 
> > amateru or non-amaeur communication tools used during the contest period 
> > to solicit and/or coorinate a contact prior to the start of that contact. 
> > Once the process of making a contact started further coordination is 
> > prohibited until after the cotact is completed in its entirety via the EME 
> > path.  If, for some reason, the contact is not completed in its entirety 
> > via the EME path and another attempt is coordinated or arranged, the 
> > process of making the contact must be restarted from the beginning.
> >
> > Rule 5.3.4 and 5.38, Mixed mode, assisted. (abberb.)
> > ....This category is intended to encourage smaller stations and operators 
> > who may be new to EME. It applies only to single-band operation on 144, 
> > 432, or 1296 MHz.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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