[Moon] W6PO 2m Amp I/P circuit help.
TexasRF at aol.com
TexasRF at aol.com
Mon Jul 2 21:03:16 CEST 2007
Hugh, your description of the problem gives some really good hints about the
cause.
First, the original input circuit design worked very well. Your added turns
on the input coil may well be the culprit.
At lower drive power, the cathode impedance will be higher than with normal
drive. The input coil is one leg of an L network that steps the 50 ohm input
up to some higher impedance. If the input inductance is higher than ideal,
then the stepped impedance is also higher, hence the good match at lower drive
levels.
I would suggest you remove a turn or two from the input inductor and try
again.
If you would like to make the input circuit adjustable, you can add a series
variable capacitor of about 30 to 50pF maximum. Every ohm of capacitive
reactance will reduce the inductive reactance a like amount. In this case, you
would purposely add some inductance to make the total reactance reach the
desired amount.
73,
Gerald K5GW
In a message dated 7/2/2007 11:24:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
hduff at cogeco.ca writes:
I'm having an interesting problem with my newly built W6PO 2m
amplifier; The amp was built to spec per the Eimac newsletter reprint
to the best of my knowledge and ability with the exception of a G3SEK
triode board.
The input T circuit is comprised of the N connector - a series 1000pF
doorknob cap - the first coil, shunt tuning cap to ground, the second
coil - tube cathode. The first coil is airwound, not slug tuned but
extra turns were added and the coil is tuned by expanding/ compressing
turns (not critical as I understand by reading some archive posts).
I cannot get the input circuit to yield a low SWR to the FT-847 exciter.
The transmitter is folding back and I'm only able to see about 500
watts out of the amp. With the transmitter set for maximum power out
(50w) the best I can get is between 3 and 4:1 SWR and the drive power
drops to about 25 or 30 watts as seen on the power meter. 500v out seems
about right with 25 or 30w drive and 2900V on the plate so the gain of
the amp is normal. (HVPS uses a pole-pig xfrmer good for well over 1 amp.)
My observations:
- I can get a good SWR reading when driving the amp with very low power
but once I increase the drive beyond a few watts the SWR rises to about
3:1 or 4:1. Any attempts to retune the shunt capacitor for lower SWR are
futile. I've even tried compressing/expanding the coils with the input
compartment cover removed (cover off-adjust-cover on) but can't do it
actively since the cover needs to be installed in order for the blower
air to keep the tube cool. I've wound and rewound both inductors +/- the
prescribed number of turns and different I.D. in a variety of
combinations. I also tried mounting the variable cap in a couple of
different places for better grounding but still no joy.
- Tuning of the shunt capacitor for a dip in SWR is extremely sharp, far
more than I would expect it to be. (A clue !?) I can almost blow on
the tuning control and the SWR will take off. The fully meshed
capacitance is 25pF, unmeshed is about 5pF.
- I have two 3cpx1500a7 tubes (assumed to be brand new) and the amp is
behaving the same regardless of which one is installed.
I prefer not to use an intermediate amplifier between the radio and
amp. I want to make the amp work properly.
I know it's hard to troubleshoot from afar but I'm all ears if anyone
cares to take a stab at helping to locate the problem.
I'm anxious to see the amp produce QRO power.
Tnx es 73 de Hugh VA3TO
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